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Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
June 01 2011 14:03 GMT
#4141
On June 01 2011 23:02 kheldorin wrote:
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On June 01 2011 23:00 jeeneeus wrote:
Only Nestea can play against one of the best players in the world, play on the worst map for zerg, and make him look like a jobber.


Ugh, stop spreading this myth. The stats clearly favor zerg in this map.

Its bad vs Protoss because of FFs but thats it. Even then MorroW beat MC on that map.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Shalaiyn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2735 Posts
June 01 2011 14:03 GMT
#4142
On June 01 2011 23:02 kheldorin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 23:00 jeeneeus wrote:
Only Nestea can play against one of the best players in the world, play on the worst map for zerg, and make him look like a jobber.


Ugh, stop spreading this myth. The stats clearly favor zerg in this map.


The fact that there's zergs winning on this map, mostly because the zerg is a lot better does not make it a good map for zerg. The terrain definetly favours colossus/HT and tanks.
snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
June 01 2011 14:03 GMT
#4143
is a mkp vs nestea final possible or will they meet before finals?
whaty0uwant
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand346 Posts
June 01 2011 14:03 GMT
#4144
Wow.. I really don't see anyone beating NesTea.. He's going to take this tourny, no doubt.
pirates
Profile Joined October 2010
United States701 Posts
June 01 2011 14:03 GMT
#4145
On June 01 2011 23:02 Mailing wrote:
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On June 01 2011 23:01 pirates wrote:
On June 01 2011 22:59 theMarkovian wrote:
TvZ on Crossfire: Get a Raven

Ravens die so easily to mutas. Do you think any Terran honestly is going to make an Air unit that is SLOWER than mutas, cost twice the gas as a muta, dies instantly to mutas and have it on a separate hotkey to potentially survive for 4 minutes? Ravens aren't really an option at all when your opponent has 35 mutas with +2 attack.


Then get HSM

Mutas have 3 range, if they are in range to shoot a raven they are in range to eat one.


HSM is too slow to kill mutas. It has huge travel time. HSM also requires you to have enough Energy, it takes a long time for a Raven to build up enough energy to use HSM. What if you get HSM upgrade and your raven gets sniped? Are you really going to make move Ravens and wait for Energy? Waste 500 gas and get literally nothing? That could have been 2 thors and +1 mech upgrade. Ravens are awful, think about the gas.
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
June 01 2011 14:03 GMT
#4146
finally the games are over, man it's been a long day of gsl
Do you really want chat rooms?
Ayrie
Profile Joined September 2010
United States213 Posts
June 01 2011 14:04 GMT
#4147
Nestea is such a god. Herald the coming of your new lord and master, foolish terrans who dare challenge the 1000 IQ, nigh-invincible future three-time champion! <3
I expected Bomber to take at least one game off of Nestea but both games were very, very close with Bomber showing that he can compete in a drawn-out macro game with the best zerg in the world via perfectly timed multi-pronged drops and scary tank marine pushes.
Very sad that MVP lost though T_T he came back in game 3 from a massive deficit only to throw his marauders away and die...
And that's what she said.
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
June 01 2011 14:04 GMT
#4148
On June 01 2011 23:02 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 23:01 pirates wrote:
On June 01 2011 22:59 theMarkovian wrote:
TvZ on Crossfire: Get a Raven

Ravens die so easily to mutas. Do you think any Terran honestly is going to make an Air unit that is SLOWER than mutas, cost twice the gas as a muta, dies instantly to mutas and have it on a separate hotkey to potentially survive for 4 minutes? Ravens aren't really an option at all when your opponent has 35 mutas with +2 attack.


Then get HSM

Mutas have 3 range, if they are in range to shoot a raven they are in range to eat one.


You one shot the raven then pull back instantly and easily outrun the HSM.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1465 Posts
June 01 2011 14:04 GMT
#4149
On June 01 2011 23:03 namedplayer wrote:
mkp vs nestea final would be great

Poor MKP.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
June 01 2011 14:04 GMT
#4150
On June 01 2011 23:03 epoc wrote:
The problem with guys like ganzi is that even though he beat mvp he's not even nearly as good as mvp is in tvz. So he won't beat finals. And without mkp and mvp to stop nestea he will win gsl again.

MKP isn't out of the tournament yet. He beat Squirtle ;p.
It appears I have been chosen.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
June 01 2011 14:04 GMT
#4151
On June 01 2011 23:01 syllogism wrote:
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On June 01 2011 23:01 tomatriedes wrote:
On June 01 2011 22:59 syllogism wrote:
That wasn't perfect at all, by neither player but especially Bomber. His timings were all off and splits not on mvp/marineking levels. But it doesn't really matter what a top zerg does, he always gets praised.


Oh God, can we stop with the whining. Nestea played well in both games.

Can we stop with the hyperboles whenever nestea/losira wins and evaluate the actual content of the game? This was a boring series not worthy of the players in it


What was so bad about his play? He macroed amazingly in the first game and his defence was excellent in the second.
DizzySheep
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1144 Posts
June 01 2011 14:04 GMT
#4152
On June 01 2011 23:02 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 22:59 syllogism wrote:
That wasn't perfect at all, by neither player but especially Bomber. His timings were all off and splits not on mvp/marineking levels. But it doesn't really matter what a top zerg does, he always gets praised.


Lol I'm always amazed how vastly inferior players on LR threads are always so highly critical of the top players in the world. Both played well and it was an entertaining series, what more do you want?


TL forum has lottttttttttttssssssss of bonjwas tts why :D
stoptherage
Profile Joined February 2011
Taiwan36 Posts
June 01 2011 14:04 GMT
#4153
On June 01 2011 23:03 Fyzar wrote:
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On June 01 2011 23:01 canikizu wrote:
On June 01 2011 22:58 zocktol wrote:
Is it just me or was the series not that exciting as the series before this?

Yeah, kind of boring.
But look at the poll, everytime a zerg wins, it's recommended game although the last game was so one-sided.

I agree as well, especially the second game wasn't that exciting.
I voted No on the poll ;> it's cool to see NesTea, but I didn't really think it was that awesome.


First game was good, second game wasnt close bomber was definitely still rattled from that first game but its nice to see zerg win on crossfire imo
Knowledge is power
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 01 2011 14:04 GMT
#4154
On June 01 2011 23:03 fant0m wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 22:58 Drazerk wrote:

22:30

Bomber GGs

Nestea wins the series 2-1


2-0.

Nestea. So fucking good. I predicted him winning GSL May right after the group stages. He is on a fucking ROLL.

I mean seriously.... winning ZvT with roaches both games? 100 drones? Baneline landmines? 29 Mutas? 30 Spine Crawlers? ULTRALISKS!!!!!!!!!

God. Nestea has a fan club now, right??? He didn't in May.


Cheers for pointing that out I'm pretty tired haha
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
June 01 2011 14:04 GMT
#4155
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skullhoof
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (North)835 Posts
June 01 2011 14:04 GMT
#4156
Bye Moletrap. I always remember the day you sang "Happy Birthday Clock Banshee", and me standing at the edge of the top floor after listening.
Polt was right about luck
Vetrocide
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway600 Posts
June 01 2011 14:04 GMT
#4157
On June 01 2011 23:02 Heavenly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 23:00 jeeneeus wrote:
Only Nestea can play against one of the best players in the world, play on the worst map for zerg, and make him look like a jobber.


How is that the worst map for zerg? lmao.


was that a serious question or troll. i cant tell for sure
The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal
Rayansaki
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal1266 Posts
June 01 2011 14:04 GMT
#4158
Nestea is the last player from the very top of the food chain in the tournament. I feel like Nada is the only one with a chance (and Alicia, but you don't want to fight Nestea ZvP).

I would bet money on it now ;>
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse: IMNestea (Death), IMLosirA (Famine), IMmvp (War), IMFenix (Conquest)
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-01 14:05:18
June 01 2011 14:05 GMT
#4159
On June 01 2011 23:01 Rayansaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 22:59 Yaotzin wrote:
On June 01 2011 22:58 Fyzar wrote:
On June 01 2011 22:57 Yaotzin wrote:
This map just BEGS for baneling bombs. You can plant sooo many and make Terran have nightmares.

Yep he did the same versus sC, it's basically you have no other way than to walk over them =P.

Yeah people freak out at all the ways Terran can abuse those chokes, but Zerg can do it too.


Except that its countered by a single unit in your comp. The good thing is that you are very unlikely to get it until you lose half your marines to a baneling mine ;>

It's super hard to keep a raven alive with a hunting flock of mutas. Plus no terran wants to put a tech lab on their starport just for a raven. They need it producing medivacs and vikings.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
June 01 2011 14:05 GMT
#4160
On June 01 2011 23:02 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 23:01 pirates wrote:
On June 01 2011 22:59 theMarkovian wrote:
TvZ on Crossfire: Get a Raven

Ravens die so easily to mutas. Do you think any Terran honestly is going to make an Air unit that is SLOWER than mutas, cost twice the gas as a muta, dies instantly to mutas and have it on a separate hotkey to potentially survive for 4 minutes? Ravens aren't really an option at all when your opponent has 35 mutas with +2 attack.


Then get HSM

Mutas have 3 range, if they are in range to shoot a raven they are in range to eat one.

Oh god, stop with the bronze level analysis.
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