• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:58
CEST 03:58
KST 10:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview26Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL46Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4[ASL19] Finals Preview: Daunting Task30
Community News
[BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates8GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th12Weekly Cups (May 27-June 1): ByuN goes back-to-back0EWC 2025 Regional Qualifier Results26Code S RO12 Results + RO8 Groups (2025 Season 2)3
StarCraft 2
General
The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview Magnus Carlsen and Fabi review Clem's chess game. Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th
Tourneys
Bellum Gens Elite: Stara Zagora 2025 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 Cheeseadelphia 2025 - Open Bracket LAN!
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void
Brood War
General
Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans? [BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion I made an ASL quiz
Tourneys
[ASL19] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 2 [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 1
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
What do you want from future RTS games? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0 Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Cognitive styles x game perf…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Poker
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8814 users

[GSL] Grand Finals - Code S May - Page 221

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 219 220 221 222 Next
needmoreMicro
Profile Joined March 2011
36 Posts
May 15 2011 16:35 GMT
#4401
On May 15 2011 18:23 NoobSkills wrote:
Just goes to show that 32 players is NOT enough to root out the weaker players. I don't think Inca is even a top 20 player, but he got in. The 64 man tournament will be baller this season. Tired of this 2x32 man tournament crap.


inca rolled nada 3-0. if thats not an indication of class, u mustve been living under a rock all this while.

nestea was just on a different level. god mode engaged.
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
May 15 2011 16:46 GMT
#4402
On May 16 2011 01:35 needmoreMicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 18:23 NoobSkills wrote:
Just goes to show that 32 players is NOT enough to root out the weaker players. I don't think Inca is even a top 20 player, but he got in. The 64 man tournament will be baller this season. Tired of this 2x32 man tournament crap.


inca rolled nada 3-0. if thats not an indication of class, u mustve been living under a rock all this while.

nestea was just on a different level. god mode engaged.

through cheesy strategies
Xujhan
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada65 Posts
May 15 2011 16:49 GMT
#4403
On May 16 2011 01:46 thoradycus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 01:35 needmoreMicro wrote:
On May 15 2011 18:23 NoobSkills wrote:
Just goes to show that 32 players is NOT enough to root out the weaker players. I don't think Inca is even a top 20 player, but he got in. The 64 man tournament will be baller this season. Tired of this 2x32 man tournament crap.


inca rolled nada 3-0. if thats not an indication of class, u mustve been living under a rock all this while.

nestea was just on a different level. god mode engaged.

through cheesy strategies


Did you not watch game 3?
"I'm so bad at this."
ForeverSleep
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada920 Posts
May 15 2011 16:52 GMT
#4404
On May 16 2011 01:46 thoradycus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 01:35 needmoreMicro wrote:
On May 15 2011 18:23 NoobSkills wrote:
Just goes to show that 32 players is NOT enough to root out the weaker players. I don't think Inca is even a top 20 player, but he got in. The 64 man tournament will be baller this season. Tired of this 2x32 man tournament crap.


inca rolled nada 3-0. if thats not an indication of class, u mustve been living under a rock all this while.

nestea was just on a different level. god mode engaged.

through cheesy strategies


Does it matter? Aren't players supposed to be ready for anything?
"Life is what happens to you while you’re busy making other plans" - John Lennon
TolEranceNA
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada434 Posts
May 15 2011 17:52 GMT
#4405
Inca is definitely a good player, but Nestea just outclassed everyone this season, except for scfou. Set 5 was godly.
Arotsis:"Nestea, what do you think about Zerg?" Nestea:"...Sad."
Datum
Profile Joined February 2011
United States371 Posts
May 15 2011 18:01 GMT
#4406
I was very dissappointed with these finals. Not because anyone cheeses their way to a win or anything, but simply because the finals were very onesided, and very anticlimactic.

Btw, WhiteRa would clearly win in a FFA by using his special tactics.
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
May 15 2011 21:01 GMT
#4407
it had to be done
❤Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ✿
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
May 15 2011 21:05 GMT
#4408
I think it's less to do with InCa ability but more with his awful PvZ, his PvP is godly and PvT solid.
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
May 15 2011 21:12 GMT
#4409
On May 16 2011 06:05 godemperor wrote:
I think it's less to do with InCa ability but more with his awful PvZ, his PvP is godly and PvT solid.


This may be because OGS' zergs aren't as good as the ones from IM, so it could impact practice within the team.
Liquipedia
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
May 15 2011 21:53 GMT
#4410
Papa Bear wins.
strava.com/athletes/zhaodynasty
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 15 2011 22:11 GMT
#4411
On May 14 2011 07:05 Zane wrote:
If NesTea loses even one game to the rule of Inca I'll swallow a sword.


wow
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Thorn Raven
Profile Joined November 2010
United States126 Posts
May 15 2011 22:43 GMT
#4412
Basically, Inca tried way too hard to catch Nestea off guard. Too many attempts at DT play, when it's apparent that Nestea is very resistant to them. Inca got stuck into a mental rut and it cost him dearly. It cost him a good fight, at the very least. Very stubborn play. Too bad. Maybe next time.
Rabbitmaster
Profile Joined August 2010
1357 Posts
May 15 2011 22:44 GMT
#4413
On May 16 2011 01:46 thoradycus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 01:35 needmoreMicro wrote:
On May 15 2011 18:23 NoobSkills wrote:
Just goes to show that 32 players is NOT enough to root out the weaker players. I don't think Inca is even a top 20 player, but he got in. The 64 man tournament will be baller this season. Tired of this 2x32 man tournament crap.


inca rolled nada 3-0. if thats not an indication of class, u mustve been living under a rock all this while.

nestea was just on a different level. god mode engaged.

through cheesy strategies


A 6 pool or cannon rush might be cheesy, but seeing a Protoss taking a risky expand and countering it correctly is hardly cheesy!
God is dead.
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
May 15 2011 23:39 GMT
#4414
His third DT attempt made me gape at the screen.

It's like 'dude, he ALWAYS knows when you're going DTs. Are you actually trying to kill yourself?'

The second time makes sense. Like the first time it doesn't work so surely he won't expect me to try it twice. But if you get roflstomped twice... that's time to try something new.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
crawlingchaos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2025 Posts
May 15 2011 23:47 GMT
#4415
You know, upon reflection I think that Inca was EXTREMELY successful.

I mean he seriously just trolled the entire SC2 community hoping for a decent series.
They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you've gotta ride it well, the world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams, it's heaven and hell, oh well.
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 00:27:53
May 16 2011 00:27 GMT
#4416
On May 16 2011 01:19 JesusOurSaviour wrote:
Um.. All the other finals were good in that both sides played at a very high level and the skill difference wasn't THAT pronouced. (Cough Inca)


There hasn't been a good GSL final since season 2. MC crushed both Rain and July. Mvp crushed MKP (both times... except for 2 wins in the WC). And Nestea crushed Inca.

Get used to it I guess? That or watch Code A finals which are usually much closer.
mrjpark
Profile Joined March 2011
United States276 Posts
May 16 2011 06:02 GMT
#4417
On May 16 2011 01:46 thoradycus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 01:35 needmoreMicro wrote:
On May 15 2011 18:23 NoobSkills wrote:
Just goes to show that 32 players is NOT enough to root out the weaker players. I don't think Inca is even a top 20 player, but he got in. The 64 man tournament will be baller this season. Tired of this 2x32 man tournament crap.


inca rolled nada 3-0. if thats not an indication of class, u mustve been living under a rock all this while.

nestea was just on a different level. god mode engaged.

through cheesy strategies


Let me guess, you play Protoss? Imagine if you saw a Zerg hatch first, not mine gas, and only pump out drones. What would you do? You'd go f*cking kill him. Same thing, it's not cheese. NesTea saw Inca DT expand with a very low count of sentries. He made sure he was safe at his base against DT's and just went and f*cking killed him 3 games in a row. Not sure how this is misinterpreted to be cheese when it's a reaction to scouting information.
Drygioni
Profile Joined February 2011
Japan379 Posts
May 16 2011 06:21 GMT
#4418
On May 16 2011 06:12 blahz0r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 06:05 godemperor wrote:
I think it's less to do with InCa ability but more with his awful PvZ, his PvP is godly and PvT solid.


This may be because OGS' zergs aren't as good as the ones from IM, so it could impact practice within the team.


Possible but doubt it considering MC's pvz is godly.
PITN
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand158 Posts
May 16 2011 09:19 GMT
#4419
On May 16 2011 15:02 mrjpark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 01:46 thoradycus wrote:
On May 16 2011 01:35 needmoreMicro wrote:
On May 15 2011 18:23 NoobSkills wrote:
Just goes to show that 32 players is NOT enough to root out the weaker players. I don't think Inca is even a top 20 player, but he got in. The 64 man tournament will be baller this season. Tired of this 2x32 man tournament crap.


inca rolled nada 3-0. if thats not an indication of class, u mustve been living under a rock all this while.

nestea was just on a different level. god mode engaged.

through cheesy strategies


Let me guess, you play Protoss? Imagine if you saw a Zerg hatch first, not mine gas, and only pump out drones. What would you do? You'd go f*cking kill him. Same thing, it's not cheese. NesTea saw Inca DT expand with a very low count of sentries. He made sure he was safe at his base against DT's and just went and f*cking killed him 3 games in a row. Not sure how this is misinterpreted to be cheese when it's a reaction to scouting information.


You misread. I believe he was saying that Inca only beat nada through cheesy strats.
http://www.last.fm/user/Laethetten
Bluerain
Profile Joined April 2010
United States348 Posts
May 16 2011 16:43 GMT
#4420
On May 15 2011 00:42 xbankx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 00:32 LetoAtreides82 wrote:
On May 15 2011 00:00 Inflicted_ wrote:
On May 14 2011 23:47 DarkRise wrote:
meh i dont even think that Inca deserve that Final seat. He's like a bad copy of MC


I think he's the creative side of MC, where as MC has the skills (mechanic-wise) to pull off those strategies as best as possible. Could be why he's getting eliminated by "lower-classed" players, as the pair aren't devising player-specific builds against them.


I couldn't find the word "creative" when I looked up Inca in the SC2 almanac, probably has something to do with him making dt's every game despite knowing Nestea goes for early spore crawlers.



What build can he do then?

Stargate expand? That get countered by the same build. Blindly doing 3 gate sentry expand and hope zerg isn't gonna ling/roach bust you? Attempting to 4 gate all in with that extra 20 secs, zergs will luls at you. Forge expand? We saw how nestea owned that with proxy spine and even if you go forge FE. You got no scout so how many cannons do you add? 7-8 to prevent a roach bust? If you add 7-8 cannons and if he just goes mass droning he is still ahead you just die mid game like 6 base vs 2.


you make it sound like roach/ling all-in is a free win vs protoss 3-gate expo. i've been doing it a long time ago vs 3-gate expands on close positions for maps like meta and LT. it's not a free win if they have great sentry control. alicia lost to it on terminus cus his sentries were caught out of position and he burned ffs before running back to his base (he even said so himself in post-game interview). a similar thing happened for idra vs socke in NASL on typhon. socke's army was out in the middle of the map prolly trying to apply some pressure. if you make shitty attack units like sentries to build up energy for the late game then u cant jus go walk into the middle of the map vs roach/ling.

dt is a good counter to the roach/ling all-in but i think 3-gate expands are still possible.
Prev 1 219 220 221 222 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
Showmatches
Liquipedia
BSL: ProLeague
18:00
Bracket Stage: Day 1
StRyKeR vs MadiNho
Cross vs UltrA
TT1 vs JDConan
Bonyth vs Sziky
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft401
RuFF_SC2 179
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 27131
soO 58
Icarus 6
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm100
League of Legends
JimRising 618
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1389
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor182
Other Games
summit1g7002
shahzam1083
ViBE202
Sick55
UpATreeSC45
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick578
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH274
• davetesta30
• gosughost_ 7
• practicex 4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift5307
Other Games
• Scarra647
Upcoming Events
SOOP Global
1h 2m
Creator vs Rogue
Cure vs Classic
SOOP
7h 2m
Classic vs GuMiho
Sparkling Tuna Cup
8h 2m
AllThingsProtoss
9h 2m
Fire Grow Cup
13h 2m
BSL: ProLeague
16h 2m
HBO vs Doodle
spx vs Tech
DragOn vs Hawk
Dewalt vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
22h 2m
Replay Cast
1d 22h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
GSL Code S
3 days
Rogue vs GuMiho
Maru vs Solar
Replay Cast
3 days
GSL Code S
4 days
herO vs TBD
Classic vs TBD
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL Code S
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Cheesadelphia
6 days
Cheesadelphia
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 1
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
2025 GSL S2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.