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andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-11 04:55:33
May 11 2011 04:55 GMT
#661
On May 11 2011 13:52 akalarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 13:51 MUFFINS1 wrote:
2 rax is not cheese...

It is like a 10 pool in ZvZ the whole point is to start of aggressive get ahead in mid game not to kill ur opponent


i think it's cheesy, but it's not an all in clearly.

u don't see ppl maka rax as a standard build

2 rax is pretty standard in ZvT. possibility to do enough damage to win and get your second OC.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
-Strider-
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico1605 Posts
May 11 2011 04:55 GMT
#662
MKP>HUK>MMA, you will see ^^
What is up? IM NESTEAAAA!
Tyrr
Profile Joined March 2011
United States216 Posts
May 11 2011 04:55 GMT
#663
On May 11 2011 13:54 Jtn wrote:
How come Huk only gets one chance to stay in Code S? Like, how does gom decide who's the 3rd player in the group?



he finished last in his Code S group, whereas MKP was 3rd.
im bad
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
May 11 2011 04:55 GMT
#664
On May 11 2011 13:54 Jtn wrote:
How come Huk only gets one chance to stay in Code S? Like, how does gom decide who's the 3rd player in the group?


Huk came last in his r32 group. They only get only the 1 shot while the player who came 3rd gets 2
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-11 04:56:05
May 11 2011 04:55 GMT
#665
On May 11 2011 13:54 Jtn wrote:
How come Huk only gets one chance to stay in Code S? Like, how does gom decide who's the 3rd player in the group?


They look at the group standings

and see that one player finished third with 1 win, and one player finished last with no wins.

then they say, hey guy with 1 win, you finished third!

then they frown at the guy with no wins and say, oh my, you did not win and we decree you finished fourth as a result.
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
May 11 2011 04:55 GMT
#666
On May 11 2011 13:54 Jtn wrote:
How come Huk only gets one chance to stay in Code S? Like, how does gom decide who's the 3rd player in the group?


Ro32 Group stages, third place gets 2 chances, fourth place gets 1.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
May 11 2011 04:55 GMT
#667
On May 11 2011 13:55 StoLiVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 13:53 Imres wrote:
On May 11 2011 13:51 MUFFINS1 wrote:
2 rax is not cheese...

It is like a 10 pool in ZvZ the whole point is to start of aggressive get ahead in mid game not to kill ur opponent


Imo if you hide it (like in tvt) it's cheesy, if you pull all of your SCV it's an all in.

You should watch more game of boxer. He do that often, he make a barrack closer of his opponant then lift it and bring it back


if it was anyone else, it would be cheesy. boxer is known for it so it's more widely accepted as it is his "special tactics" and being sneaky
MUFFINS1
Profile Joined March 2011
United States533 Posts
May 11 2011 04:55 GMT
#668
On May 11 2011 13:53 Imres wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 13:51 MUFFINS1 wrote:
2 rax is not cheese...

It is like a 10 pool in ZvZ the whole point is to start of aggressive get ahead in mid game not to kill ur opponent


Imo if you hide it (like in tvt) it's cheesy, if you pull all of your SCV it's an all in.

All- in is an all- in meaning if it doesn't work our out. He only pulled 3 scvs and managed to kill just as many and waste a whole bunch of mining time. It was a good deal and wasn't cheesy at all.
hi
manicshock
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada741 Posts
May 11 2011 04:56 GMT
#669
On May 11 2011 13:47 mikyaJ wrote:
MKP played AMAZINGLY save for that single mistake, so it wasn't a "sloppy game from both sides"


If MMA hadn't of tossed the game back into MKP's face he would've lost. MMA played fine apart from the no bunkers to hold the push into allin, the game was lost the second MMA's allin failed. MKP would've had to play absolutely terribly in order to lose at that point.
Never argue with an idiot. They will just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
May 11 2011 04:56 GMT
#670
mostly bo losses for every player



game1: mkp does 1base rush, mma pulls back and holds with siege tanks and gets ahead because he has 2 orbitals/mules much earlier than mkp


game2: mma does fast 3 bases, loses as it should to 2base strong rush. even loses the 3rd CC which seals it. then both players make dumb mistakes.



game3) mkp gets the faster cc so mkp now has 2 orbitals/CC for better economy much earlier than mma. mkp shouldnt lose this game

MaxwelsDemoN
Profile Joined September 2010
57 Posts
May 11 2011 04:56 GMT
#671
I think the person who got 3rd in their code s group, and the code a player both get 2 chances, while the 4th place in code s player only gets one. Correct me if I'm wrong.
PourLaGloire
Profile Joined February 2011
United States376 Posts
May 11 2011 04:56 GMT
#672
On May 11 2011 13:54 Jtn wrote:
How come Huk only gets one chance to stay in Code S? Like, how does gom decide who's the 3rd player in the group?

Honestly, I feel like the system works quite well. HuK hasn't played well lately.

Hope he wins today.
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
May 11 2011 04:56 GMT
#673
somehow mma caught up
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
Crisco
Profile Joined March 2011
1170 Posts
May 11 2011 04:56 GMT
#674
baller marine bait into siege
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
May 11 2011 04:56 GMT
#675
On May 11 2011 13:54 MUFFINS1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 13:52 akalarry wrote:
On May 11 2011 13:51 MUFFINS1 wrote:
2 rax is not cheese...

It is like a 10 pool in ZvZ the whole point is to start of aggressive get ahead in mid game not to kill ur opponent


i think it's cheesy, but it's not an all in clearly.

u don't see ppl maka rax as a standard build

Cheese means u can't come back. Early aggression is just a small sacrifice for economy for a possible large gain without completely ruining yourself

So what you're saying is a bunker rush is not cheese? And cannoning in the ramp of a Zerg is not cheese? Because people definitely follow that up with stuff lol. Your 'definition' is terrible.
MKP||TSL
Shaxe
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands590 Posts
May 11 2011 04:56 GMT
#676
Retard magnet marines.
Imres
Profile Joined March 2011
515 Posts
May 11 2011 04:57 GMT
#677
On May 11 2011 13:55 StoLiVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 13:53 Imres wrote:
On May 11 2011 13:51 MUFFINS1 wrote:
2 rax is not cheese...

It is like a 10 pool in ZvZ the whole point is to start of aggressive get ahead in mid game not to kill ur opponent


Imo if you hide it (like in tvt) it's cheesy, if you pull all of your SCV it's an all in.

You should watch more game of boxer. He do that often, he make a barrack closer of his opponant then lift it and bring it back


Boxer use a lot of proxy which are really risky and cheesy, i don't mind cheese, it's all in which are painful to watch, cause it's often a coinflip.
MUFFINS1
Profile Joined March 2011
United States533 Posts
May 11 2011 04:57 GMT
#678
On May 11 2011 13:56 Newguy wrote:
somehow mma caught up

He was never really behind he did quite a lot of damage with his early push.
hi
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
May 11 2011 04:57 GMT
#679
Neutral critter kill!

Bad luck :O
For Aiur???
ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
May 11 2011 04:57 GMT
#680
king defends another drop ^^
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