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Pipeline
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1673 Posts
May 10 2011 10:23 GMT
#221
On May 10 2011 19:21 Mike15xp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 19:19 summerloud wrote:
yawn. i wish there was something to transition into from marine/siegetank



bcs


BCS, a thor or two... and ghosts/nukes .... since basically no one gets ravens in TvT and have to spend like 95% of all scans to scout tank positions ghosts are super good
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
May 10 2011 10:24 GMT
#222
On May 10 2011 19:20 s3rp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 19:19 summerloud wrote:
yawn. i wish there was something to transition into from marine/siegetank



Into what ? Buth had no eco to go BC's anything else makes no sense.

Edit: ah i misread , well yeah well BC's is possible but well you'd need some serious economy to do that.


BCs are terrible unless you're already winning by a good amount in which case they can be used to just end the game a bit quicker and look flashy. If you're about even then your opponent gets to crush you whilst you're trying to make an air force.

Marine/Tank is really popular because it's the best composition in TvT.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
May 10 2011 10:25 GMT
#223
the last two groups of Up and Down are ALL terrans. that cast will be like 6 hours long.
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
May 10 2011 10:25 GMT
#224
On May 10 2011 19:24 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 19:20 s3rp wrote:
On May 10 2011 19:19 summerloud wrote:
yawn. i wish there was something to transition into from marine/siegetank



Into what ? Buth had no eco to go BC's anything else makes no sense.

Edit: ah i misread , well yeah well BC's is possible but well you'd need some serious economy to do that.


BCs are terrible unless you're already winning by a good amount in which case they can be used to just end the game a bit quicker and look flashy. If you're about even then your opponent gets to crush you whilst you're trying to make an air force.

Marine/Tank is really popular because it's the best composition in TvT.


Both players were trying to push into each others siege lines and drop each other all game long, but each one failed over and over, so it extended each game into 20-30 mins.

If one of them played pure defensive while teching to BC behind a siege line, it might of worked out well.
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vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
May 10 2011 10:26 GMT
#225
these helions better do a lot of damage
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
May 10 2011 10:26 GMT
#226
Nice job check killing the weakest helion
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
Pipeline
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1673 Posts
May 10 2011 10:27 GMT
#227
On May 10 2011 19:24 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 19:20 s3rp wrote:
On May 10 2011 19:19 summerloud wrote:
yawn. i wish there was something to transition into from marine/siegetank



Into what ? Buth had no eco to go BC's anything else makes no sense.

Edit: ah i misread , well yeah well BC's is possible but well you'd need some serious economy to do that.


BCs are terrible unless you're already winning by a good amount in which case they can be used to just end the game a bit quicker and look flashy. If you're about even then your opponent gets to crush you whilst you're trying to make an air force.

Marine/Tank is really popular because it's the best composition in TvT.


If you have seen QXC play TvT he transitions into harassment units when the game gets stale with Tank/marines. You will often see him go for a few reapers/banshees
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
May 10 2011 10:27 GMT
#228
Someone tell me they captured the Check's checklist
How devious | http://anartisticanswer.blogspot.com.au/
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 10:30:01
May 10 2011 10:28 GMT
#229
On May 10 2011 19:25 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 19:24 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On May 10 2011 19:20 s3rp wrote:
On May 10 2011 19:19 summerloud wrote:
yawn. i wish there was something to transition into from marine/siegetank



Into what ? Buth had no eco to go BC's anything else makes no sense.

Edit: ah i misread , well yeah well BC's is possible but well you'd need some serious economy to do that.


BCs are terrible unless you're already winning by a good amount in which case they can be used to just end the game a bit quicker and look flashy. If you're about even then your opponent gets to crush you whilst you're trying to make an air force.

Marine/Tank is really popular because it's the best composition in TvT.


Both players were trying to push into each others siege lines and drop each other all game long, but each one failed over and over, so it extended each game into 20-30 mins.

If one of them played pure defensive while teching to BC behind a siege line, it might of worked out well.

Byun's victory was hardly in doubt from the first 5-10 minutes if he didn't made a mistake. No reason to give your opponent a timing where you're weak if you can stay ahead the whole time.
Alive at no point had an economy that could support BCs.


I should say that I think there are other things for players to do - late game banshees, ghosts, reapers - but in terms of your actual "army", marine/tank is best.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
May 10 2011 10:29 GMT
#230
Blegh today's HQ stream problems are getting pretty annoying. To the SQ stream for me.
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Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
May 10 2011 10:30 GMT
#231
Check needed 2 spines, 1 at each mineral line when he saw the factory :/ it put him too far behind losing 10 drones that early.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 10:30:54
May 10 2011 10:30 GMT
#232
that tank positioning is really hard to deal with for zerg, can't really see check coming back from this

check loses his natural and alive pushing further up

check tries to counter with some lings but a bunker at the front crushes that
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
May 10 2011 10:30 GMT
#233
TD for zerg kinda sucks. Always see same siege on natural.
MC for president
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
May 10 2011 10:31 GMT
#234
Check mate...
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
May 10 2011 10:31 GMT
#235
God, I hate seeing zergs lose to pushes like this, so easy to see yourself in it.

The very idea "Omfg 20 marines and 4 tanks... I build 6 lings" hurt my brain.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
May 10 2011 10:31 GMT
#236
Poll: Recommend Game 1 of aLive vs Check

No (28)
 
62%

If you have time (11)
 
24%

Yes (6)
 
13%

45 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 1 of aLive vs Check

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
May 10 2011 10:32 GMT
#237
Very nice build from Alive with the early gas before Rax.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
May 10 2011 10:32 GMT
#238
No one watch GSL now? 12 pages..
Kar98
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia924 Posts
May 10 2011 10:32 GMT
#239
I think that low ground tank siege might turn into the old shakuras, where all terran would tank push through the back rocks to kill the zerg
Kotschmonaut
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany117 Posts
May 10 2011 10:32 GMT
#240
noob performance from check, many people in this live thread wouldve done that better
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