• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:12
CEST 04:12
KST 11:12
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash8[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy13ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple5Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research5Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool49Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win4
StarCraft 2
General
Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 519 Inner Power The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Build Order Practice Maps [ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Pros React To: SoulKey vs Ample
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group F [ASL21] Ro24 Group E 🌍 Weekly Foreign Showmatches [ASL21] Ro24 Group B
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7209 users

[GSL] Up & Down Matches Day 2 - Page 12

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 46 Next All
Pipeline
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1673 Posts
May 10 2011 10:23 GMT
#221
On May 10 2011 19:21 Mike15xp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 19:19 summerloud wrote:
yawn. i wish there was something to transition into from marine/siegetank



bcs


BCS, a thor or two... and ghosts/nukes .... since basically no one gets ravens in TvT and have to spend like 95% of all scans to scout tank positions ghosts are super good
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
May 10 2011 10:24 GMT
#222
On May 10 2011 19:20 s3rp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 19:19 summerloud wrote:
yawn. i wish there was something to transition into from marine/siegetank



Into what ? Buth had no eco to go BC's anything else makes no sense.

Edit: ah i misread , well yeah well BC's is possible but well you'd need some serious economy to do that.


BCs are terrible unless you're already winning by a good amount in which case they can be used to just end the game a bit quicker and look flashy. If you're about even then your opponent gets to crush you whilst you're trying to make an air force.

Marine/Tank is really popular because it's the best composition in TvT.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
May 10 2011 10:25 GMT
#223
the last two groups of Up and Down are ALL terrans. that cast will be like 6 hours long.
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
May 10 2011 10:25 GMT
#224
On May 10 2011 19:24 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 19:20 s3rp wrote:
On May 10 2011 19:19 summerloud wrote:
yawn. i wish there was something to transition into from marine/siegetank



Into what ? Buth had no eco to go BC's anything else makes no sense.

Edit: ah i misread , well yeah well BC's is possible but well you'd need some serious economy to do that.


BCs are terrible unless you're already winning by a good amount in which case they can be used to just end the game a bit quicker and look flashy. If you're about even then your opponent gets to crush you whilst you're trying to make an air force.

Marine/Tank is really popular because it's the best composition in TvT.


Both players were trying to push into each others siege lines and drop each other all game long, but each one failed over and over, so it extended each game into 20-30 mins.

If one of them played pure defensive while teching to BC behind a siege line, it might of worked out well.
Are you hurting ESPORTS? Find out today - http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=232866
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
May 10 2011 10:26 GMT
#225
these helions better do a lot of damage
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
May 10 2011 10:26 GMT
#226
Nice job check killing the weakest helion
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
Pipeline
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1673 Posts
May 10 2011 10:27 GMT
#227
On May 10 2011 19:24 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 19:20 s3rp wrote:
On May 10 2011 19:19 summerloud wrote:
yawn. i wish there was something to transition into from marine/siegetank



Into what ? Buth had no eco to go BC's anything else makes no sense.

Edit: ah i misread , well yeah well BC's is possible but well you'd need some serious economy to do that.


BCs are terrible unless you're already winning by a good amount in which case they can be used to just end the game a bit quicker and look flashy. If you're about even then your opponent gets to crush you whilst you're trying to make an air force.

Marine/Tank is really popular because it's the best composition in TvT.


If you have seen QXC play TvT he transitions into harassment units when the game gets stale with Tank/marines. You will often see him go for a few reapers/banshees
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
May 10 2011 10:27 GMT
#228
Someone tell me they captured the Check's checklist
How devious | http://anartisticanswer.blogspot.com.au/
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 10:30:01
May 10 2011 10:28 GMT
#229
On May 10 2011 19:25 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 19:24 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On May 10 2011 19:20 s3rp wrote:
On May 10 2011 19:19 summerloud wrote:
yawn. i wish there was something to transition into from marine/siegetank



Into what ? Buth had no eco to go BC's anything else makes no sense.

Edit: ah i misread , well yeah well BC's is possible but well you'd need some serious economy to do that.


BCs are terrible unless you're already winning by a good amount in which case they can be used to just end the game a bit quicker and look flashy. If you're about even then your opponent gets to crush you whilst you're trying to make an air force.

Marine/Tank is really popular because it's the best composition in TvT.


Both players were trying to push into each others siege lines and drop each other all game long, but each one failed over and over, so it extended each game into 20-30 mins.

If one of them played pure defensive while teching to BC behind a siege line, it might of worked out well.

Byun's victory was hardly in doubt from the first 5-10 minutes if he didn't made a mistake. No reason to give your opponent a timing where you're weak if you can stay ahead the whole time.
Alive at no point had an economy that could support BCs.


I should say that I think there are other things for players to do - late game banshees, ghosts, reapers - but in terms of your actual "army", marine/tank is best.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
May 10 2011 10:29 GMT
#230
Blegh today's HQ stream problems are getting pretty annoying. To the SQ stream for me.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
May 10 2011 10:30 GMT
#231
Check needed 2 spines, 1 at each mineral line when he saw the factory :/ it put him too far behind losing 10 drones that early.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 10:30:54
May 10 2011 10:30 GMT
#232
that tank positioning is really hard to deal with for zerg, can't really see check coming back from this

check loses his natural and alive pushing further up

check tries to counter with some lings but a bunker at the front crushes that
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
May 10 2011 10:30 GMT
#233
TD for zerg kinda sucks. Always see same siege on natural.
MC for president
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
May 10 2011 10:31 GMT
#234
Check mate...
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
May 10 2011 10:31 GMT
#235
God, I hate seeing zergs lose to pushes like this, so easy to see yourself in it.

The very idea "Omfg 20 marines and 4 tanks... I build 6 lings" hurt my brain.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
May 10 2011 10:31 GMT
#236
Poll: Recommend Game 1 of aLive vs Check

No (28)
 
62%

If you have time (11)
 
24%

Yes (6)
 
13%

45 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 1 of aLive vs Check

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
May 10 2011 10:32 GMT
#237
Very nice build from Alive with the early gas before Rax.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
May 10 2011 10:32 GMT
#238
No one watch GSL now? 12 pages..
Kar98
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia924 Posts
May 10 2011 10:32 GMT
#239
I think that low ground tank siege might turn into the old shakuras, where all terran would tank push through the back rocks to kill the zerg
Kotschmonaut
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany117 Posts
May 10 2011 10:32 GMT
#240
noob performance from check, many people in this live thread wouldve done that better
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 46 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
00:00
#75
PiGStarcraft501
CranKy Ducklings86
SteadfastSC78
davetesta53
EnkiAlexander 40
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft501
RuFF_SC2 124
ViBE119
SteadfastSC 78
Nina 58
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 5739
Horang2 1902
Artosis 617
Noble 7
Dota 2
monkeys_forever762
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0432
Other Games
summit1g7908
Fnx 1051
WinterStarcraft242
Maynarde114
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick840
BasetradeTV34
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 114
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP4
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
• Kozan
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift4998
Other Games
• Scarra691
• imaqtpie640
• Shiphtur102
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
6h 48m
Afreeca Starleague
7h 48m
BeSt vs Leta
Queen vs Jaedong
Kung Fu Cup
8h 48m
Replay Cast
21h 48m
The PondCast
1d 7h
OSC
1d 21h
RSL Revival
2 days
TriGGeR vs Cure
ByuN vs Rogue
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Maru vs MaxPax
BSL
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W1
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.