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Mephiztopheles1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1124 Posts
April 30 2011 03:32 GMT
#641
I love "wasteful" zergs who just try to edge an advantage one army trade at a time, but Slush overdoes it so much ;(
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 30 2011 03:32 GMT
#642
Greater spire and cracklings in the way but he needs to survive long enough for it to work
crawlingchaos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2025 Posts
April 30 2011 03:32 GMT
#643
On April 30 2011 12:31 Jman5 wrote:
Is anyone else having issues seeing the difference between Yellow and Orange on the minimap?

Yeah, but usually only when it's a single or small group of units.
They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you've gotta ride it well, the world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams, it's heaven and hell, oh well.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 30 2011 03:33 GMT
#644
kawaii at 198/200

slush at 117/200 and drying up in all his bases
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
April 30 2011 03:34 GMT
#645
On April 30 2011 12:32 Drazerk wrote:
Greater spire and cracklings in the way but he needs to survive long enough for it to work


The supply difference is just too great now. It was 150 to 150 like a minute ago... but Kawaii pulled way ahead.
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
April 30 2011 03:34 GMT
#646
On April 30 2011 12:31 VoirDire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2011 12:27 Pajegetc wrote:
On April 30 2011 12:22 VoirDire wrote:
On April 30 2011 12:14 Pajegetc wrote:
On April 30 2011 12:13 ccHaZaRd wrote:
crossfire is such a bad map lol


Nah, it's a terrible map for hydra, if he went Mass Mass mutaling harass/counterattacks on the other hand he would of dominated

It looks like you missed the game. Axslav actually opened phoenix, which off course negates any muta play. If you don't build hydras, you pretty much die. (see game 1 of the series).


the thing is if you produce a lot if force the protoss players to either make more Pheonix and less colossus because for every 2 pheonix you force, that is 1 less colossus. And mutas in bigger numbers destroy pheonix.

So mutas destroy phoenix in large numbers? ...ok. I'm not going to continue this discussion.


Actually yes if you don't let them kite you. But keep yourself closed minded.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
April 30 2011 03:34 GMT
#647
Kawaiirice's TvZ is so entertaining to watch.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
April 30 2011 03:34 GMT
#648
On April 30 2011 12:32 Mephiztopheles1 wrote:
I love "wasteful" zergs who just try to edge an advantage one army trade at a time, but Slush overdoes it so much ;(

is zerg supposed to be efficient?
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
April 30 2011 03:34 GMT
#649
Slush's macro just completely failed there. GG Kawaii.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
April 30 2011 03:34 GMT
#650
kawaii played well that game
Kirb
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany900 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-30 03:35:51
April 30 2011 03:34 GMT
#651
Kawaiirice is just so good in TvZ.

Edit: If only his other matchups were up to his Osu skills. xD
DrivE
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States2554 Posts
April 30 2011 03:34 GMT
#652
gj kawaii! well played
LUCK IS NO EXCUSE
relyt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1073 Posts
April 30 2011 03:35 GMT
#653
On April 30 2011 12:32 Mephiztopheles1 wrote:
I love "wasteful" zergs who just try to edge an advantage one army trade at a time, but Slush overdoes it so much ;(

Army trades dont work for zerg if you are even, or behind in econ.
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
April 30 2011 03:35 GMT
#654
On April 30 2011 12:34 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2011 12:31 VoirDire wrote:
On April 30 2011 12:27 Pajegetc wrote:
On April 30 2011 12:22 VoirDire wrote:
On April 30 2011 12:14 Pajegetc wrote:
On April 30 2011 12:13 ccHaZaRd wrote:
crossfire is such a bad map lol


Nah, it's a terrible map for hydra, if he went Mass Mass mutaling harass/counterattacks on the other hand he would of dominated

It looks like you missed the game. Axslav actually opened phoenix, which off course negates any muta play. If you don't build hydras, you pretty much die. (see game 1 of the series).


the thing is if you produce a lot if force the protoss players to either make more Pheonix and less colossus because for every 2 pheonix you force, that is 1 less colossus. And mutas in bigger numbers destroy pheonix.

So mutas destroy phoenix in large numbers? ...ok. I'm not going to continue this discussion.


Actually yes if you don't let them kite you. But keep yourself closed minded.


Not much you can do about it if the protoss has good micro, phoenix are faster and outrange the mutas, so in a straight up fight mutas do okay, if the protoss micros, it doesn't matter how many mutas you have.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
April 30 2011 03:35 GMT
#655
kawaii is so solid in this MU. I don't think I've seen him lose a TvZ series besides to
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Spanishiwa, and well....Spanishiwa is so unstandard it's hard to compare him to other zergs
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 30 2011 03:35 GMT
#656
I love it when he streams the occasional bw tvz so good all around
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garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
April 30 2011 03:35 GMT
#657
On April 30 2011 12:34 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2011 12:32 Mephiztopheles1 wrote:
I love "wasteful" zergs who just try to edge an advantage one army trade at a time, but Slush overdoes it so much ;(

is zerg supposed to be efficient?

They can be with fungals!
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Kewlots
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia534 Posts
April 30 2011 03:35 GMT
#658
On April 30 2011 12:14 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2011 12:13 ccHaZaRd wrote:
crossfire is such a bad map lol


Nah, it's a terrible map for hydra, if he went Mass Mass mutaling harass/counterattacks on the other hand he would of dominated


he should have hit up july zerg for some advice
gl hf gg
Jman5
Profile Joined September 2010
United States745 Posts
April 30 2011 03:36 GMT
#659
Gretorp or Incontrol, can you click the Color change button in your matches so players are Red/Blue?

There are certain colors in different spots that are difficult to see: Purple for zerg, Green shattered temple, Yellow/orange combo in the same game.
Aequos
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada606 Posts
April 30 2011 03:36 GMT
#660
On April 30 2011 12:34 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2011 12:31 VoirDire wrote:
On April 30 2011 12:27 Pajegetc wrote:
On April 30 2011 12:22 VoirDire wrote:
On April 30 2011 12:14 Pajegetc wrote:
On April 30 2011 12:13 ccHaZaRd wrote:
crossfire is such a bad map lol


Nah, it's a terrible map for hydra, if he went Mass Mass mutaling harass/counterattacks on the other hand he would of dominated

It looks like you missed the game. Axslav actually opened phoenix, which off course negates any muta play. If you don't build hydras, you pretty much die. (see game 1 of the series).


the thing is if you produce a lot if force the protoss players to either make more Pheonix and less colossus because for every 2 pheonix you force, that is 1 less colossus. And mutas in bigger numbers destroy pheonix.

So mutas destroy phoenix in large numbers? ...ok. I'm not going to continue this discussion.


Actually yes if you don't let them kite you. But keep yourself closed minded.

What sort of difference are you talking about? I mean, obviously 1 Phoenix will suck and die to 5 Mutalisks - but usually, about 3 Phoenixes per 5 Mutas will be a good victory for the Phoenixes.

I mean, you can't really stop them from kiting you as they have a faster movespeed - and they do more damage - and they have more health.
I first realized Immortals were reincarnated Dragoons when I saw them dancing helplessly behind my Stalkers.
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