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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
April 28 2011 02:58 GMT
#1061
On April 28 2011 11:31 bluestuff wrote:
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On April 28 2011 11:25 MrCon wrote:
Fast burrow and claws from moon, I think that's the best ZvP build at the moment.

from a both players and spectators perspective,I find it pretty stupid that the only reliable way for zerg to win the matchup(or seemingly so) is do the equivalent of a 6 gate, which is but one of many options for a protoss to win the game. What the morrow vs kiwi series has shown us though is that nydus/drops/agressive play is NOT the end all answer to beat protoss, and against a high end protoss like kiwi drops are fairly easy to defend and from my view not very cost effective.

I didn't said I liked it, just that the most effective way to beat a P imo. Morrow's drop were late and random. Dropping a 16 warpgates protoss is an impossible mission Mr Phelps.
templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
April 28 2011 02:58 GMT
#1062
Grubby should have watched Sheth's stream, since he's been doing this.
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
April 28 2011 02:58 GMT
#1063
rofl Grubby
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
April 28 2011 02:58 GMT
#1064
Oh wow what a poor mistake by Grubby.
Jman5
Profile Joined September 2010
United States745 Posts
April 28 2011 02:58 GMT
#1065
Oh my...
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 28 2011 02:58 GMT
#1066
Sheth is bringing the pain!!!
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Mereel
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany895 Posts
April 28 2011 02:58 GMT
#1067
hahaha gretorp
TPW Mapmaking Team
Fraggle
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway105 Posts
April 28 2011 02:58 GMT
#1068
Shethlings! ftw:p
NExt
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1651 Posts
April 28 2011 02:58 GMT
#1069
Jesus Christ.............................

Sheth YOU'RE SO GOOD
Waiting for Protoss Jesus
HypernovA
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada556 Posts
April 28 2011 02:58 GMT
#1070
WOW

Sheth go!
bluestuff
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada893 Posts
April 28 2011 02:58 GMT
#1071
man outplayed hard
AmiPolizeiFunk
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany804 Posts
April 28 2011 02:59 GMT
#1072
.... this cast ...

wtf
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
April 28 2011 02:59 GMT
#1073
the problem with being aggressive in zvp, dpoing multiprong attacks and drops is that you must do damage or you simply die. And a smart toss will not make zealots but he'll make cannons instead (See how hard it was for Morrow to do any damage vs 2+ cannons?). Only reason kiwikaki didn't make a cannon at the edge of his base that game was because he had phoenixes and felt safe for a while with them against drops. It's taking a pretty big risk as a zerg to be aggressive. Even when Idra does this style perfectly i.e. attacking not only in multiple spots (and pulling away without many losses), dropping hydras to kill off a lot of probes at the same time, the battles he has with toss are still quite close later on. It's also really hard to do this style on certain maps as well because of the close proximity of the toss' third (i.e. shakuras).

And for those of you who criticize morrow for his style, he's said himself that he's tried mass roaches, mass infestors, blings, and all sorts of strategies and still has the most success with the old school style in practice. He practices, experiments and forms zvp strategies with hasuobs and kiwikaki, not with random ladder noobs.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
April 28 2011 02:59 GMT
#1074
Sheth Sheth Sheth!
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
Engore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
April 28 2011 02:59 GMT
#1075
Wow sheth. Wow. Do you have the holy grail in your bedroom?
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garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
April 28 2011 02:59 GMT
#1076
Sheth's micro is insaaaaaaaaane.
#TeamBuLba
PITN
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand158 Posts
April 28 2011 02:59 GMT
#1077
Poor grubby lol.
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jackdaleaper
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines1216 Posts
April 28 2011 02:59 GMT
#1078
I missed the start of this game, how did the zerglings get in? Did Grubby misplace his zealot or buildings?
bwally
Profile Joined December 2010
United States670 Posts
April 28 2011 02:59 GMT
#1079
Sheth's zerglings > all
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13400 Posts
April 28 2011 02:59 GMT
#1080
wow sheth doing an awesome job there. His ZvP is very good.
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