EPT[TSL] Ro8 Day 2 - Page 205
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Arguing and whining in this thread will be met with the hammer. Please enjoy the games and keep this thread on track! | ||
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BushidoSnipr
United States910 Posts
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PhyreHazard
Canada298 Posts
On April 25 2011 07:13 s4life wrote: Well, KAS was tearing the EU scene dude, he was not just winning a viking cup here and there.. the thing is, neither of those guys KNEW that, because they just don't have the time to go and watch EU tournaments. Not having information would obviously hinder anyone's analysis, and this was not exception. Again it doesn't matter that it hindered their analysis, they are just sharing their opinions. Im sure most people watch sotg just because its funny as hell and like to listen to their input. If you want to know whos good or what not, there are plenty of good ressources on TL, you could check TLPD for stats and theres also a tournament roundup every month in TL news. | ||
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Fungal Growth
United States434 Posts
On April 25 2011 07:16 tdt wrote: Great point and quote from Thorzain himself about the armor upgrades vs zealots and I retract my earlier assertion that zealots are a counter to Thors. Just goes to show how impressive those armor upgrades are vs toss...not only vs zealots but against stalkers (14 - 1 - 3 = 10) and against sentries (6 - 1 - 3 = 2). Even vs Voids (12-21 ??) would go to 8-17 (math could be off). Vs Carriers... 5 - 1 - 3 = 1... so would be just one hit per interceptor strike if my math is right. Vs Colossi... 15 - 1 - 3 = 10 (and that's probably with no splash).... Only counter to upgraded Thors would really be more immortals than you have strike cannon rounds or just a huge number of stalkers. | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4147 Posts
 I have no idea how anyone could have predicted these 4 to be in the semi finals, lookin at the list of 32 players | ||
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DisaFear
Australia4074 Posts
On April 25 2011 07:22 BushidoSnipr wrote: I hate Hasuobs now. Much like how everyone hates Cruncher for knocking Idra | ||
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Copymizer
Denmark2107 Posts
On April 25 2011 06:04 Vimsey wrote: Possibly but the Chinese will be coming soon. quoted for truth aka QFT ! good one | ||
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s4life
Peru1519 Posts
Trying to understand non-sequiturs isn't my forte. | ||
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xZiGGY
United Kingdom801 Posts
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doihy
668 Posts
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YoungNeil
Canada328 Posts
On April 25 2011 07:06 DiaBoLuS wrote: Being in the spotlight =/= seeing the players PLAY and comparing their skill. Look at the games they play, watch their replays and how good they are. You guys see things like - He was a BW legend - He was/is in korea - He won xyz tourney (not seeing HOW and vs WHOM they did) Over the actual games they played - how their playstyles are in the exact matchups etc. this is why HuK vs HasuObs was a clear 50/50 match to me for example - and i was pretty sure hasuobs should take out Boxer as well. But i also know, that the final will most likely be Kas vs Naniwa. Look, I agree with your analysis of the players, and I meant to communicate this already. I thought it was 50/50 (maybe slightly in Hasu's favour), and despite being a reasonably big HuK fan it was very hard for me to push the "Vote" button on the Liquibet page. I'm just saying that HuK may have commanded such an immense share of the Liquibet votes because he was more popular and had more exposure, it looked to me like most of the more informed players thought it was going to be very close. | ||
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Wazabo
Italy124 Posts
On April 25 2011 07:32 Dante08 wrote: Dam Boxer I have no idea how anyone could have predicted these 4 to be in the semi finals, lookin at the list of 32 players One guy did XD http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:HenL/TSL3Bracket | ||
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-Jacob-
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LanTAs
United States1091 Posts
On April 25 2011 07:38 Wazabo wrote: One guy did XD http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:HenL/TSL3Bracket that is perfect bracket???? | ||
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United States10328 Posts
On April 25 2011 07:34 DisaFear wrote: Much like how everyone hates Cruncher for knocking Idra false. Boxer and Idra are on totally different levels... how can you even compare them? Though admittedly Boxer is not among the top WoL players (even Iron was knocked out...), so it's good that he went further than expected. But hating whomever knocked out Boxer... is a pretty normal response, I'd say. Boxer is a huge reason why ESPORTS exist today! | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On April 25 2011 07:35 s4life wrote: Trying to understand non-sequiturs isn't my forte. Well I'm glad you didn't just specify what part... but I will break down all of my response towards you. Obviously the part before the quote was not addressed to you. "What influence do they have over the results of the game?" This is a question asking you what influence the cast of SOTG has over the outcome of the game. The answer is clearly none (unless you really want to argue over small psychological factors...) therefore I put "Hmmm...." to imply that the answer was very obvious. Then I said "Yeah... that's right." The purpose of this line was to show that since the answer to the question was clearly that they have no influence over the games, that their opinions really don't matter. You can therefore imply that I feel it really isn't necessary that they each research every topic they are going to discuss... especially when questions are brought up on the fly. | ||
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Lambertus
South Africa980 Posts
On April 25 2011 07:36 doihy wrote: If the europeans are that good why dont they just go to GSL and start owning Code S players? If they are good enough to beat gsl champions it makes sense to that they would easily make code s. -.- Dude, thats the whole point of the discussion of the last weeks and months: The chance of SC2 is, to establish a worldwide good scene and not only one in korea...so, why should they go to Korea? the point is to show that the SC2-scene is much bigger than Korea... | ||
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gnutz
Germany666 Posts
On April 25 2011 07:36 doihy wrote: If the europeans are that good why dont they just go to GSL and start owning Code S players? If they are good enough to beat gsl champions it makes sense to that they would easily make code s. -.- Why should they? There is more money in Europe, as well as you can play from home, not a foreign country where near to no one speaks english. | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On April 25 2011 07:59 Lambertus wrote: Dude, thats the whole point of the discussion of the last weeks and months: The chance of SC2 is, to establish a worldwide good scene and not only one in korea...so, why should they go to Korea? the point is to show that the SC2-scene is much bigger than Korea... Well not only that... but they lose a lot of money for traveling and living somewhere else, and then they obviously can't be around family and friends. On top of that, it is still a huge risk. Using Bomber as an example... if he really is the best player on ST as many of his teammates have said, then it just goes to show how someone with so much skill can still have some trouble qualifying because losing 1 series means you are out. The point is, it is still very difficult to get to the top even if you deserve to be there. On top of it all, you would have to wait for an entire season just to have a chance of winning. | ||
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Deleted User 108965
1096 Posts
On April 25 2011 07:27 Fungal Growth wrote: Great point and quote from Thorzain himself about the armor upgrades vs zealots and I retract my earlier assertion that zealots are a counter to Thors. Just goes to show how impressive those armor upgrades are vs toss...not only vs zealots but against stalkers (14 - 1 - 3 = 10) and against sentries (6 - 1 - 3 = 2). Even vs Voids (12-21 ??) would go to 8-17 (math could be off). Vs Carriers... 5 - 1 - 3 = 1... so would be just one hit per interceptor strike if my math is right. Vs Colossi... 15 - 1 - 3 = 10 (and that's probably with no splash). Only counter to upgraded Thors would really be more immortals than you have strike cannon rounds or just a huge number of stalkers. not to nitpick or anything, but i think toss should probably go for attack upgrades regardless if they see mech, so this would cancel out the thor upgrade and zealots would have some pretty good use | ||
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Seriox
Germany373 Posts
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