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Chise
Japan507 Posts
On April 22 2011 21:02 pdd wrote: He kinda did. Didn't have a good response to the early pressure. Well yes, he didn't respond very well, that's true. But to me it just looked like violet studied Ace's play style very well so he knew exactly how to counter it. | ||
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zerious
Canada3803 Posts
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quirinus
Croatia2489 Posts
Also, turn off GSL Code A from "ON AIR", it's over now.  | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On April 22 2011 21:29 quirinus wrote: Who's the lady in the banner? Also, turn off GSL Code A from "ON AIR", it's over now. Korean caster. I can't turn it off. Have to ask the TL admins to do that I think. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On April 22 2011 20:37 pdd wrote: Some observations after todays games. - viOlet really impressed me. Ace didn't play very well, but I think viOlet's playstyle really forced him into such a situation where he was forced to make a lot of mistakes. But still, I think viOlet showed some impressive stuff in that game. Loved how he managed to win even though he failed a 6 pool. - Ace, continues to disappoint in GSL games. - YuGiOh beating August was pretty much expected by me. - Min was disappointing in his win. He had a terrible Game 1, and while he played really well in Game 2 and 3, he had incredibly sloppy moments in both games. - 3/3 Zergs through today might give some joy to those Zerg naysayers - I'm really curious as to why MKP and MVP both went for early mass unupgraded marines vs Protoss. The 2nd Lure v MVP game makes me question the logic of it, because even though MVP killed so many sentries and stalkers, his natural came so late and he was behind in supply when they entered the mid-game. - MVP just shows just how good a player he is. Incredible multitasking in Game 1 and again in Game 2 (this time even showing that he can overcome a better build just by pure multitasking and mechanics alone) - In relation to the above point, Lure was actually not that bad. He just took a risky double expand in Game 1 and lost to a better player in Game 2. About Min : in the GSTL I remember Cella saying they only fielded him once because he was too nervous. I'm pretty sure it was the case today too (as his reaction after the win suggest, that was very emotional) About the MVP marine build : it's a natural evolution of the matchup. In the recent period of protoss domination vs terran, most terrans were doing one rax expo, adding one or 2 rax, a fast factory and a fast starport while adding one reactor and 2 techlabs on the raxes (most usual case). This created a situation where the protoss had some very good possible aggressive timings (even with only 3 gate robo, and more with 6 gate sentry push). Long story short, now most terrans are adding 3 naked raxes after the 1 rax expo, allowing them to produce a LOT of rines so they can be safe in early game, and this changed the matchup quite a bit, now Ts have a strongest (or at least equal) early game. Not that no stim no shield marine are great against protoss, but just because the pure amount of "stuff". In that game, MVP was a bit greedy by pushing to Lure's base (and missing his bunker timing completely, lost him like 5 scvs), but with unupgraded marines vs stalkers you don't have a choice if you go too far out of your base. (if you retreat the stalkers will kill them one by one, same if you hold position, so you just have to go) Comparing the supply is tricky, because MVP only has 1 food marines at that point. TLDR : this build allows a very safe 1 rax expand. MVP delayed his stim a little too long imo still. | ||
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phisku
Belgium864 Posts
Not the best one but a good level in general. | ||
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Klamity
United States994 Posts
also, gogogo mvp. | ||
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Rinnegan5
Netherlands319 Posts
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PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
 . At least some zergs made it through to the Round of 16 though. | ||
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Maskedsatyr
Singapore1245 Posts
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
edit: Oh, Brown still has yet to play. | ||
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lorkac
United States2297 Posts
On April 22 2011 20:17 AxionSteel wrote: mvp you hacker :D no expansion secret is safe from him! It's easy to realize that your opponent has an expansion when no matter how hard you hurt his army when he has a LOT more stuff than what he *should* be able to afford. But in truth--starsense baby! (folks like Flash or Jaedong coming to SC2 is scary not because of APM or micro or macro or multitask--if you think MVP has good starsense then you haven't watched enough Flash games) | ||
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jellyjello
Korea (South)664 Posts
On April 22 2011 20:37 pdd wrote: Some observations after todays games. - viOlet really impressed me. Ace didn't play very well, but I think viOlet's playstyle really forced him into such a situation where he was forced to make a lot of mistakes. But still, I think viOlet showed some impressive stuff in that game. Loved how he managed to win even though he failed a 6 pool. - Ace, continues to disappoint in GSL games. - YuGiOh beating August was pretty much expected by me. - Min was disappointing in his win. He had a terrible Game 1, and while he played really well in Game 2 and 3, he had incredibly sloppy moments in both games. - 3/3 Zergs through today might give some joy to those Zerg naysayers - I'm really curious as to why MKP and MVP both went for early mass unupgraded marines vs Protoss. The 2nd Lure v MVP game makes me question the logic of it, because even though MVP killed so many sentries and stalkers, his natural came so late and he was behind in supply when they entered the mid-game. - MVP just shows just how good a player he is. Incredible multitasking in Game 1 and again in Game 2 (this time even showing that he can overcome a better build just by pure multitasking and mechanics alone) - In relation to the above point, Lure was actually not that bad. He just took a risky double expand in Game 1 and lost to a better player in Game 2. It was probably to counter possible proxy pylons. This is similar to how MKP beat MC in the world championship. We can see how the terran strategy is evolving. I thought MVP made all the good choices in the early encounters, and his use of dropships to buy time was a very good choice considering the air was uncontested. | ||
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zerious
Canada3803 Posts
On April 23 2011 00:36 lorkac wrote: It's easy to realize that your opponent has an expansion when no matter how hard you hurt his army when he has a LOT more stuff than what he *should* be able to afford. But in truth--starsense baby! (folks like Flash or Jaedong coming to SC2 is scary not because of APM or micro or macro or multitask--if you think MVP has good starsense then you haven't watched enough Flash games) If you watch the games MVP basically scouted nexuses that were just being made or just finished building, it wasn't one of those "oh, where are you getting all these units from". I'm guessing MVP probably knew that the only way this guy would win he would have to try something sneaky against him, so he took proper the precautions. | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On April 23 2011 01:32 zerious wrote: If you watch the games MVP basically scouted nexuses that were just being made or just finished building, it wasn't one of those "oh, where are you getting all these units from". I'm guessing MVP probably knew that the only way this guy would win he would have to try something sneaky against him, so he took proper the precautions. Well Mvp has always had this sort of starsense thing. The game in gsl jan finals against mkp on meta where he scouted the hidden expo comes to mind. | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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StarcraftKevin
United States285 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On April 23 2011 02:03 rysecake wrote: Well Mvp has always had this sort of starsense thing. The game in gsl jan finals against mkp on meta where he scouted the hidden expo comes to mind. wouldn't really call it starsense by now, he just has really good scouting habits and does it every game just checking around the map doesn't cost you anything, but if he laid down like a random scan on a hidden darkshrine I'd call that starsense | ||
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redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
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