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Zarfell
Profile Joined March 2011
38 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 11:30:07
April 22 2011 11:29 GMT
#1121
I always vote against zerg in bets, not a good day

I still want zerg to win though, so good in that sense.
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
April 22 2011 11:30 GMT
#1122
On April 22 2011 20:27 DizzySheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 20:26 Poy wrote:
On April 22 2011 20:25 raga4ka wrote:
MVP is the best player in the world


it's Clide.


Clide is the best human being not player


You're describing Nada not Clide. MVP with 2 TvZs to final. Should be good.
Provocateur
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1665 Posts
April 22 2011 11:30 GMT
#1123
On April 22 2011 20:25 AxionSteel wrote:
Was it just me or did all his forcefields actually help out MVP in quite a lot of those battles?


Anyway, so happy Mvp is at LEAST in Code A again lol. Now need to see him win one more to get to up/down. gogo mvp!

Yeah, Lure saced ~15-20 zealots just trying to get past his own forcefields at one point. Might've actually done enough damage to MVP's production to win had he not put those FFs up
teko
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1197 Posts
April 22 2011 11:30 GMT
#1124
Back to watching FXO KotH now: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=209652

TheSTC is still playing.
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
April 22 2011 11:30 GMT
#1125
On April 22 2011 20:29 Micket wrote:
Moral of the story: Don't base trade a Terran who has Planetary Fortresses, you can't win.

true, unless u have collosi, HT with psi-storm or lots of sentries
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
April 22 2011 11:30 GMT
#1126
On April 22 2011 20:27 bokchoi wrote:
MVP just needs to focus on TvZ for the next 2 rounds. If he beats Min he will face either YuGiOh or viOlet. Gogo MVP ezpz.


So happy it's not protoss Good matches for him, can only see him losing to either of those two if he gets baneling busted or something.
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
April 22 2011 11:31 GMT
#1127
4/4 on liquibets! Oh yeah!
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
rushian
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom568 Posts
April 22 2011 11:31 GMT
#1128
On April 22 2011 20:30 Provocateur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 20:25 AxionSteel wrote:
Was it just me or did all his forcefields actually help out MVP in quite a lot of those battles?


Anyway, so happy Mvp is at LEAST in Code A again lol. Now need to see him win one more to get to up/down. gogo mvp!

Yeah, Lure saced ~15-20 zealots just trying to get past his own forcefields at one point. Might've actually done enough damage to MVP's production to win had he not put those FFs up

Yeah that was a pretty critical error. Left the marauders free to get a ton of shots off on the zealots
"Love every protoss unit" - oGsMC
LightWireEX
Profile Joined September 2010
United States387 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 11:32:10
April 22 2011 11:31 GMT
#1129
On April 22 2011 20:29 Chise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 20:24 betaV1.25 wrote:
On April 22 2011 20:15 Chise wrote:
On April 22 2011 20:11 Juanald wrote:
On April 22 2011 20:08 Chise wrote:
On April 22 2011 20:07 Juanald wrote:
On April 22 2011 20:06 R3N wrote:
Huk isn't even code A material tbh.




Why ban? HuK hasn't proven himself so far. Maybe he will this season, but most people (including myself) doubt he will.

its insult to huk... he obv practice hard and PROVED himself in code a already and was promoted to the big leagues... grow up stop hating..


Well...No? HuK didn't prove himself. Yes, he made it to Code S, but cances are pretty high that he will drop to Code A pretty soon if he doesn't improve a lot.
Noone is trying to insult or hate on HuK. It's a fact that his results lately aren't on the level of most Code S players.


Completly off topic but i felt a burning desire to reply:

So when you go to Code A how else can you prove yourself other then to get promoted to code S?


What more can you expect? Go to korea and win the gsl in a single shot?


HuK just barely made it to the RO8 of Code A and then Advanced to Code S by winning a PvP, which is probably the most volatile matchup.
In my opinion none of his wins on his way to Code S looked very convincing.
I've not seen too much of HuK though (GSL, GSL WC, MLG), but, as I already said, so far I wasn't impressed by his games, which makes me think that he doesn't stay in Code S for very long.

The thing is, you don't always win because you outclassed your opponent. As for HuK, I don't feel like he outclassed any of his opponents.



Exactly. Well said. I'm sad to say this- but I genuinely wish Liquid would recruit some more and switch some players out of Korea. Ret/Haypro/HuK are not exactly...the best. They are great players, but they show little to no results every GSL. (excluding HuK) Not to mention I've heard Haypro and Ret hardly even practice, which pisses me off because they have a grand opportunity that many other people wish to have, and they're just blowing it. They're in a house with a ton of Koreans for pete's sake, they could be as good as Jinro has gotten at this point.
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Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
April 22 2011 11:31 GMT
#1130
On April 22 2011 20:25 EmilA wrote:
Far too close for my liking.. I hope MVP doesn't have to face higher tier protoss before he can secure his code s

http://www.gomtv.net/2011championship/forum/64293
MvP has no more protoss on his side of the bracket. Also, noooooo Min you have to face MVP next .
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
April 22 2011 11:32 GMT
#1131
I was wondering where MVPs army was in that last engagement but it turns out he was just dropping 2 bases at once and microing his main army against a protoss deathball

np 300 apm/current best bw player playing sc2
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
April 22 2011 11:32 GMT
#1132
On April 22 2011 20:24 betaV1.25 wrote:
Completly off topic but i felt a burning desire to reply:

So when you go to Code A how else can you prove yourself other then to get promoted to code S?


What more can you expect? Go to korea and win the gsl in a single shot?


Um, well for one thing you can show skill, good starsense, multitasking, strategy, macro, and micro.

HuK 4 gated his way to Code S, and didn't even have the micro that I expect from him while doing it.

There's a big difference between being a TSL_Rain runner up and being a MarineKing runner up. Or do you think that there's nothing else that BitByBitPrime could have done to "prove himself" besides win games?
Zinthar
Profile Joined March 2011
United States394 Posts
April 22 2011 11:32 GMT
#1133
The only reason that game 2 was close was because Mvp started the game with a strange heavy marine strategy that prevented him from macroing as hard as Lure. He was pretty far behind in economy for over half of the game, but still pulled out the victory with near flawless drops, multi-tasking, and micro in each battle.

The end of the game was not as close as it appeared for a moment -- Mvp was still pulling in 800 minerals per minute in income and was no where close to being revealed. Even if Lure had completely taken out the production structures in the main, he couldn't have gotten back home to prevent MVP from destroying the rest of his structures, let alone attack Mvp''s planetary in the far south end of the map.
jjmmtt
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
April 22 2011 11:32 GMT
#1134
On April 22 2011 20:29 Zarfell wrote:
I always vote against zerg in bets, not a good day

I still want zerg to win though, so good in that sense.


Even vote against NesTea? :S
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 11:34:58
April 22 2011 11:34 GMT
#1135
On April 22 2011 20:32 Zinthar wrote:
The only reason that game 2 was close was because Mvp started the game with a strange heavy marine strategy that prevented him from macroing as hard as Lure. He was pretty far behind in economy for over half of the game, but still pulled out the victory with near flawless drops, multi-tasking, and micro in each battle.

The end of the game was not as close as it appeared for a moment -- Mvp was still pulling in 800 minerals per minute in income and was no where close to being revealed. Even if Lure had completely taken out the production structures in the main, he couldn't have gotten back home to prevent MVP from destroying the rest of his structures, let alone attack Mvp''s planetary in the far south end of the map.

what game were you watching

he was behind in tech for a while, not in economy, he still fast expo'd but he just waited to move out with his orbital and that doesn't make him behind at all

my guess with the 5 barracks build is that he saw marineking do it against MC and he saw it was pretty safe against any early aggression/voidray play and then he could just transition into bio anyway

obviously the main downside is stalker kiting
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
April 22 2011 11:34 GMT
#1136
On April 22 2011 20:31 LightWireEX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 20:29 Chise wrote:
On April 22 2011 20:24 betaV1.25 wrote:
On April 22 2011 20:15 Chise wrote:
On April 22 2011 20:11 Juanald wrote:
On April 22 2011 20:08 Chise wrote:
On April 22 2011 20:07 Juanald wrote:
On April 22 2011 20:06 R3N wrote:
Huk isn't even code A material tbh.




Why ban? HuK hasn't proven himself so far. Maybe he will this season, but most people (including myself) doubt he will.

its insult to huk... he obv practice hard and PROVED himself in code a already and was promoted to the big leagues... grow up stop hating..


Well...No? HuK didn't prove himself. Yes, he made it to Code S, but cances are pretty high that he will drop to Code A pretty soon if he doesn't improve a lot.
Noone is trying to insult or hate on HuK. It's a fact that his results lately aren't on the level of most Code S players.


Completly off topic but i felt a burning desire to reply:

So when you go to Code A how else can you prove yourself other then to get promoted to code S?


What more can you expect? Go to korea and win the gsl in a single shot?


HuK just barely made it to the RO8 of Code A and then Advanced to Code S by winning a PvP, which is probably the most volatile matchup.
In my opinion none of his wins on his way to Code S looked very convincing.
I've not seen too much of HuK though (GSL, GSL WC, MLG), but, as I already said, so far I wasn't impressed by his games, which makes me think that he doesn't stay in Code S for very long.

The thing is, you don't always win because you outclassed your opponent. As for HuK, I don't feel like he outclassed any of his opponents.



Exactly. Well said. I'm sad to say this- but I genuinely wish Liquid would recruit some more and switch some players out of Korea. Ret/Haypro/HuK are not exactly...the best. They are great players, but they show little to no results every GSL. (excluding HuK) Not to mention I've heard Haypro and Ret hardly even practice, which pisses me off because they have a grand opportunity that many other people wish to have, and they're just blowing it. They're in a house with a ton of Koreans for pete's sake, they could be as good as Jinro has gotten at this point.



Ret is an equal or better player to Huk. One of the two however plays zerg and gets matched up against MMA.
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
April 22 2011 11:35 GMT
#1137
On April 22 2011 20:29 Goibon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 20:28 isM wrote:
I don't understand why protoss players don't put cannons around drop areas vs terran. There has to be a bigger reason than the cost (~300 minerals per base). Maybe someone can shine some light on it for me. It seems like the slowing effect it would have on drops would be spectacular.

My guess is they feel they can warp in to combat it. But they don't build enough gates to accomodate this so i don't know.

I find the lack of static defenses in general disturbing. Terran seem to be the only race which consistently builds turrets.


Starting to see many zergs get plenty of spine crawlers these days, its crazy how much difference it can make.
Love is more fun than hate.
Provocateur
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1665 Posts
April 22 2011 11:36 GMT
#1138
On April 22 2011 20:31 LightWireEX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 20:29 Chise wrote:
On April 22 2011 20:24 betaV1.25 wrote:
On April 22 2011 20:15 Chise wrote:
On April 22 2011 20:11 Juanald wrote:
On April 22 2011 20:08 Chise wrote:
On April 22 2011 20:07 Juanald wrote:
On April 22 2011 20:06 R3N wrote:
Huk isn't even code A material tbh.




Why ban? HuK hasn't proven himself so far. Maybe he will this season, but most people (including myself) doubt he will.

its insult to huk... he obv practice hard and PROVED himself in code a already and was promoted to the big leagues... grow up stop hating..


Well...No? HuK didn't prove himself. Yes, he made it to Code S, but cances are pretty high that he will drop to Code A pretty soon if he doesn't improve a lot.
Noone is trying to insult or hate on HuK. It's a fact that his results lately aren't on the level of most Code S players.


Completly off topic but i felt a burning desire to reply:

So when you go to Code A how else can you prove yourself other then to get promoted to code S?


What more can you expect? Go to korea and win the gsl in a single shot?


HuK just barely made it to the RO8 of Code A and then Advanced to Code S by winning a PvP, which is probably the most volatile matchup.
In my opinion none of his wins on his way to Code S looked very convincing.
I've not seen too much of HuK though (GSL, GSL WC, MLG), but, as I already said, so far I wasn't impressed by his games, which makes me think that he doesn't stay in Code S for very long.

The thing is, you don't always win because you outclassed your opponent. As for HuK, I don't feel like he outclassed any of his opponents.



Exactly. Well said. I'm sad to say this- but I genuinely wish Liquid would recruit some more and switch some players out of Korea. Ret/Haypro/HuK are not exactly...the best. They are great players, but they show little to no results every GSL. (excluding HuK) Not to mention I've heard Haypro and Ret hardly even practice, which pisses me off because they have a grand opportunity that many other people wish to have, and they're just blowing it. They're in a house with a ton of Koreans for pete's sake, they could be as good as Jinro has gotten at this point.

You should totally be the new manager for teamliquid, such a clever post full of insight T.T
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
April 22 2011 11:36 GMT
#1139
Code A this season has some awesome players that's why it's good. Plus Moletrap FTW.
MC for president
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
April 22 2011 11:37 GMT
#1140
On April 22 2011 20:31 Maghetti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 20:25 EmilA wrote:
Far too close for my liking.. I hope MVP doesn't have to face higher tier protoss before he can secure his code s

http://www.gomtv.net/2011championship/forum/64293
MvP has no more protoss on his side of the bracket. Also, noooooo Min you have to face MVP next .


Meh. I'm sure MMA will have him ready to at least be competitive by then.
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