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Yesterday's broadcast has had its issues. We all saw it. There are 10+ pages of whining. There is an entirely new cast going on now. Please keep whining about issues experienced yesterday to yourself going forward in the thread and allow other people to enjoy the games.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
April 18 2011 03:02 GMT
#1941
On April 18 2011 12:00 Asshat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 11:59 ZionsWrath wrote:
What was the racist comment, I missed it.

Someone explain please


Nothing even close to being remotely offensive, just slightly bad taste, some people are too sensitive to anything, I recommend them not trying Mortal Kombat 9 or The Witcher 2.

Ya, it really disgusts me how sensitive so many people are on TL. This has to be the most uptight group of people I have ever interacted with.
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 03:02:42
April 18 2011 03:02 GMT
#1942
Wow, viewer count down to 2K

whoops, nevermind, just spiked like crazy.

Yay!
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
April 18 2011 03:02 GMT
#1943
I didn't find the WCF tht offensive tbh but it just wasn't funny at all and very immature.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
April 18 2011 03:02 GMT
#1944
They are going to reair the Cloud/PU series right now.
the farm ends here
Onos
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada107 Posts
April 18 2011 03:02 GMT
#1945
On April 18 2011 12:01 DCWasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 12:00 Asshat wrote:
On April 18 2011 11:59 ZionsWrath wrote:
What was the racist comment, I missed it.

Someone explain please


Nothing even close to being remotely offensive, just slightly bad taste, some people are too sensitive to anything, I recommend them not trying Mortal Kombat 9 or The Witcher 2.


Is The Witcher 2 any good?


Should be a very, very good RPG. Comes out in May or June.
Polygamy
Profile Joined January 2010
Austria1114 Posts
April 18 2011 03:02 GMT
#1946
On April 18 2011 11:59 Darpa wrote:
jesus, why is everyone so sensitive about absolutely everything that they have done nothing to contribute too.

Chill guys


Really what is happening to our community? Everyone seems to expect the world with out contributing shit...
Since when did gamers start acting like soccer moms at a PTA meeting?
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 18 2011 03:02 GMT
#1947
Unfortunately any Sen vs. Idra match would have to be played Asia to US. Still, it will happen this NASL.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
April 18 2011 03:02 GMT
#1948
I think Sen recently finished an university semester so he can focus 100% of his energy on Starcraft 2 at the moment

someone correct me if I'm wrong
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
FunkQue
Profile Joined October 2010
United States165 Posts
April 18 2011 03:02 GMT
#1949
Regarding what incontrol says on SotG.

When you're the face of a 400k International SC2 League, you can no longer enjoy the luxury of choosing when you should be taken serious, and when your comments can be considered to be jokes.

It's all or nothing.

I think he realizes this now, and has adjusted accordingly.
MattyClutch
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States711 Posts
April 18 2011 03:02 GMT
#1950
On April 18 2011 11:36 iNcontroL wrote:
I will speak on behalf of it being removed from future broadcasts.




Good to hear! As someone who bought a pass I have been plenty satisfied. There have been some pretty big issues, but it seems like you guys have acted quickly to resolve all of them.


A related question, ill the VODs be up for the missed games any time soon? Would really appreciate if they could be give priority.
Nihn'kas Neehn
DrivE
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States2554 Posts
April 18 2011 03:03 GMT
#1951
YES SC! TERRAN MUSIC
great choice <3
LUCK IS NO EXCUSE
lfs
Profile Joined September 2010
United States54 Posts
April 18 2011 03:03 GMT
#1952
On April 18 2011 12:02 Mastermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 12:00 Asshat wrote:
On April 18 2011 11:59 ZionsWrath wrote:
What was the racist comment, I missed it.

Someone explain please


Nothing even close to being remotely offensive, just slightly bad taste, some people are too sensitive to anything, I recommend them not trying Mortal Kombat 9 or The Witcher 2.

Ya, it really disgusts me how sensitive so many people are on TL. This has to be the most uptight group of people I have ever interacted with.


I just thought it was annoying and unfunny, I think most would agree. Doesn't have anything to do with being sensitive, it was just stupid.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
April 18 2011 03:03 GMT
#1953
On April 18 2011 12:02 Mastermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 12:00 Asshat wrote:
On April 18 2011 11:59 ZionsWrath wrote:
What was the racist comment, I missed it.

Someone explain please


Nothing even close to being remotely offensive, just slightly bad taste, some people are too sensitive to anything, I recommend them not trying Mortal Kombat 9 or The Witcher 2.

Ya, it really disgusts me how sensitive so many people are on TL. This has to be the most uptight group of people I have ever interacted with.


Sensitivity disgusts you?

Ironic.
Aequos
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada606 Posts
April 18 2011 03:03 GMT
#1954
Looks like the stream is back up (at least, it's playing music) so that means Painuser's games are coming up?
I first realized Immortals were reincarnated Dragoons when I saw them dancing helplessly behind my Stalkers.
iLLusive
Profile Joined March 2010
United States274 Posts
April 18 2011 03:03 GMT
#1955
I have to imagine a ton of you are Day9 fans and follow him on a twitter. He encodes stuff daily and how many times do we see him saying there was issues with editing / encoding and you give this production crew crap for one mistake when it's the first time they have worked together? I can understand the fustration if you spend money and hype this event has, but have you even done any major video editing or production yourself. I help produce a show for nearly 6 months and I couldn't even come close to what these guys are doing week 1. It WILL improve it takes time to get the noobie mistakes out of the way and trust me when it comes to editing and encoding you make a TON of mistakes.
The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 18 2011 03:03 GMT
#1956
I will say, I love the SC1 music soooooo much
Great Choice Sound guys :D
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Ever-Long
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada106 Posts
April 18 2011 03:03 GMT
#1957
<3 the music!!
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
April 18 2011 03:03 GMT
#1958
they're playing SC1 music lol
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 18 2011 03:03 GMT
#1959
On April 18 2011 11:59 whiterabbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 11:49 iNcontroL wrote:
On April 18 2011 11:42 Heaton31 wrote:
On April 18 2011 11:36 iNcontroL wrote:
Let me just say this:

1. I am WAY against the humor displayed in that show during the intermission. I will speak on behalf of it being removed from future broadcasts.

2. This was a mistake. It's really really bad. I know the NASL is upset about it and will fix it. There is no way to go back in time.. but please know we are sorry.

3. Maps were updated. There is no legitimate argument for using the outdated maps. That too was a mistake overlooked by not consulting the pro players of the squad (me and gretorp). It has been rectified.


Some inside info:

The NASL isn't a bustling studio of 30 people. It's 5 production people and 2 commentators. We are hiring out professional help for the sound (after the problems) we consult pro's on the stage etc... but we are not some huge broadcasting company. When people say "mistakes like this shouldn't happen.. you need to watch for mistakes!" They do. They do the best they can. A lot of these guys are running off of 4 or less hours a night. Encoding, editing, doing graphics etc.. all each day after this schedule. Do they want your sympathy? No. No they do not. Do they expect better results than what we have produced? MORE THAN YOU KNOW. Nobody is more pissed than Russ and co after each mistake.

This is the first week. None of them came from a broadcasting / league background. All of them are chasing a dream and trying to do it to the best of their abilities. When we make mistakes please tell us with all of this in mind. If you STILL feel the need to say "FIRE X" or "THIS IS FUCKING TERRIBLE" then I guess go ahead and do that.

I get to wake up in the same house as these people and watch them go at it for another 16 hours each day.

It is absolutely unacceptable to make these mistakes and they will not be made continuously. As they happen they get fixed asap. In the end it makes us better. We were never planning on 1 season so we have time to fix these things. Ideally, would they never have happened? OF COURSE. Is it possible to have caught these faster? CERTAINLY. But we didn't and we are sorry. Please understand the sheer effort and work that is going into this. This league is growing and it has growing pains. It also has amateur mistakes and huge errors. All of which will be sorted out as they come up.




I'm sure most everyone appreciates the honesty, accountability and full disclosure, but for paying customers, I don't think reading about how the production team has little experience in broadcasting tournaments is a good thing.

I think most people are learning some hard lessons from MLG and NASL. Don't pay for a product until you know what the product is.


Please stop.

I really get annoyed with all this extremist language. It's not even the end of the first week yet and people are STILL getting top quality games. yes there are issues but they are being fixed as fast as they can (usually the next day).

I really get annoyed when people assume 25$ is wasted because the first week wasn't perfect.


iNcontroL, you strike me as a smart guy and I am sure you understand that guy says the truth. We all know mistakes happen, issues arise and such but after all that hype, promises and 25$ fee for HD production/HD VODs to openly admit that people who work behind NASL have absolutely no experience is kinda... really slap in the face to current and possible future customers.

People didn't pay to witness production "crash course" for those 5 guys.

Saying that... I still believe NASL will be better and better with each day and week but to not have a single professional in team is really unacceptable.


uh dude.

I was saying they are GOM employees or DH admins who have been doing it for 10 years. I'm sorry if that bursts some kind of bubble you had. I wasn't saying they have ZERO experience with this stuff. BELIEVE ME with how hard it is to run a damn league to this scale you can safely assume they have some experience with this stuff. OBVIOUSLY.. Russ has been producing/streaming the GCPL as well as other events for a long time. We have a professional editor and graphics designer. One of the co-owners family owns a movie production company.

I am trying to give you background on the people that bring you guys this and so far I have people reading it as "WHAT? THEY HAVE NO EXPERIENCE? THERE IS ONLY 5 OF THEM?"

Please just read my post for what it is. And stop LOOKING for ways to turn this more negative. We obviously don't need it.
Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
April 18 2011 03:03 GMT
#1960
terran music OP!
If you want to help me out... http://signup.leagueoflegends.com/?ref=4b82744b816d3
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