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Yesterday's broadcast has had its issues. We all saw it. There are 10+ pages of whining. There is an entirely new cast going on now. Please keep whining about issues experienced yesterday to yourself going forward in the thread and allow other people to enjoy the games.
FlattLine
Profile Joined January 2011
80 Posts
April 19 2011 16:44 GMT
#3261
Gretorp looks like he is falling asleep half the time. Is he stoned? (o.O) Usually he is just agreeing with inControl and not saying his own knowledge of the game. It is OK to do that, but you need to add your own flare to the show and be funny or positive to add some sort of good flavor to the casting. The most obvious example of this is Tasteless, who even though I think doesn't have a whole lot of knowledge of the game, I still consider as one of the best starcraft casters ever.
TheResidentEvil
Profile Joined September 2010
United States991 Posts
April 19 2011 16:48 GMT
#3262
On April 20 2011 01:28 MCDayC wrote:
I'm kinda confused by the scoring system. Players with a win have different points, some have 1 some have 2. Why is that?


Apparently the points dont determine rankings and are more of a tie breaker. You get 1 point for winning and -1 for losing. If you got 1 point and a win, that means it went to game 3. if you got 2 points and a win, you closed it out in game 2.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-19 16:51:03
April 19 2011 16:50 GMT
#3263
On April 20 2011 01:28 MCDayC wrote:
I'm kinda confused by the scoring system. Players with a win have different points, some have 1 some have 2. Why is that?

Winning 2-0 and 2-1, respectively.


1-0 (+2)
First is match record, then map record.
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
April 19 2011 17:09 GMT
#3264
On April 20 2011 01:44 FlattLine wrote:
Gretorp looks like he is falling asleep half the time. Is he stoned? (o.O) Usually he is just agreeing with inControl and not saying his own knowledge of the game. It is OK to do that, but you need to add your own flare to the show and be funny or positive to add some sort of good flavor to the casting. The most obvious example of this is Tasteless, who even though I think doesn't have a whole lot of knowledge of the game, I still consider as one of the best starcraft casters ever.


Well, only bad commentators interrupt their partners while they are talking, and incontrol is talking pretty much, so it's hard for Gretorp to come with his input on stuff. This is no hate on incontrol, but I would rather say that he should let Gretorp talk a little more.

rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 19 2011 17:15 GMT
#3265
On April 20 2011 01:41 Sm3agol wrote:
Also, Incontrol and Gretorp....man up and either wear a nice suit/ tie, or just go completely casual, the half and half look just doesn't cut it and makes it seem really weird.

Tastosis does it for GSL. Day[9] and co. have sported it at MLG. Why can't the NASL have the same look? I think this criticism is blind to the norm.
Writer@WriterYamato
juxtaposedhearts0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States50 Posts
April 19 2011 18:46 GMT
#3266
I'm a little confused about the LAGtv shenanigans. I believe the LAGtv guys when they say they submitted two separate videos (one without the offensive material) but I'm confused as to why iNcontroL is saying he is going to try and remove it if they let it through in the first place

I think it's impossible to compare the NASL to GSL or MLG because they are completely different. The reason the NASL was able to include so many amazing players is because they can easily play from home. Also, there is no live studio where fans can go watch so I think it is unfair to compare the NASL to live tournament settings.
Twitter: juxtaposedheart
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-19 22:09:52
April 19 2011 22:09 GMT
#3267
One thing about the casters, they received a lot of criticism for the showmatch (clash of titans), and the observer was bad in the showmatch too. I remember posting about it in the first nasl feedback thread, more than one month before the actual start.
I feel the casters have improved, but the obs is as bad as before (a big no no in any sport imo) They need to improve the sound too, I'm sure we'd like the cast more if the sound was more clear. I mean, a good soundtrack is like 3% the bandwidth of a 1080p stream, so I don't understand how the sound can be so bad. Seems like the tech guy, who is compressing the videos, doesn't know what he does. Same with the framerate, please reduce the quality and improve the framerate, everything will look like 5 times better.

I'd be curious to know their production process, I'm sure there is some easy to fix technical flaws in there that are causing all this mess. I post all this and perhaps they've already fixed that for this week. But with that schedule they're obviously in a permanent rush, I hope they'll have time to fix all these things.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 19 2011 22:26 GMT
#3268
People forget that the final 16 do LAN in california...just wait
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Executor1
Profile Joined April 2011
1353 Posts
April 20 2011 03:46 GMT
#3269
On April 20 2011 07:09 MrCon wrote:
One thing about the casters, they received a lot of criticism for the showmatch (clash of titans), and the observer was bad in the showmatch too. I remember posting about it in the first nasl feedback thread, more than one month before the actual start.
I feel the casters have improved, but the obs is as bad as before (a big no no in any sport imo) They need to improve the sound too, I'm sure we'd like the cast more if the sound was more clear. I mean, a good soundtrack is like 3% the bandwidth of a 1080p stream, so I don't understand how the sound can be so bad. Seems like the tech guy, who is compressing the videos, doesn't know what he does. Same with the framerate, please reduce the quality and improve the framerate, everything will look like 5 times better.

I'd be curious to know their production process, I'm sure there is some easy to fix technical flaws in there that are causing all this mess. I post all this and perhaps they've already fixed that for this week. But with that schedule they're obviously in a permanent rush, I hope they'll have time to fix all these things.

They have to do this! reduce the quality to increase the framerate ( or somehow increase the framerate) because at 15 fps its gives me and im sure others a huge headache.
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
April 20 2011 04:15 GMT
#3270
On April 20 2011 07:26 darthfoley wrote:
People forget that the final 16 do LAN in california...just wait


Repeat after me. "There is no LAN in SC2"
Again, "There is no LAN in SC2"

Just playing.
DuB phool
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1003 Posts
April 20 2011 04:41 GMT
#3271
On April 20 2011 13:15 openbox1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2011 07:26 darthfoley wrote:
People forget that the final 16 do LAN in california...just wait


Repeat after me. "There is no LAN in SC2"
Again, "There is no LAN in SC2"

Just playing.


Made me chuckle.

Yeah, I can't wait for the Ro16. So far my liquibets are looking pretty darned amazing...
Gogo NASL!


Oh, and to whoever commented on the casters' attire.. have you watched any other tournament casts at ALL? Everyone does it, and it looks fine. It's the official esports-caster look.
"overwatch is jesus" - motbob 2016
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
April 20 2011 05:14 GMT
#3272
iNcontroL please keep your head up ... I have greatly enjoyed NASL so far and it will only improve !!!
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-20 05:45:10
April 20 2011 05:44 GMT
#3273
double post sorry
Coeus1
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland160 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-20 10:27:09
April 20 2011 10:26 GMT
#3274
On April 18 2011 15:27 NerdCRAFT wrote:
I agree with iNcontroL on this one. Now everyone says that these mistakes are ruining the whole NASL experience but I disagree. This is something new that is just getting started and naturally will take time. This is just like when TV was first introduced, at first it wasn't that great but it grew exponentially as time went on and the problems were fixed. All you have to do is have patience and faith that the NASL will soon be one of the greatest leagues in the world, I think will.


You ask people to pay for it (in advance!), you get everybody really hyped about how awesome it will be. And then you deliver this online league with amateurish vibe. Of course people are a bit upset!

I think the main reason for customer hatred is the professionalism of GSL and the smooth operation of free TSL. They are not easy to compete against.

But gl to NASL, concept is good, better execution is needed. Hope it works out!
Also casters are the real stars of StarCraft 2. Get the best to be the best.

xxx
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
April 20 2011 10:36 GMT
#3275
GSL has years of experience and, in comparison, a huge budget. Not a particularly fair comparison
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
April 20 2011 10:41 GMT
#3276
And the schedule is different. You can't compare NASL with TSL, as TSL broadcast 2 days a week, from replays, so it's obviously not the logistical nightmare nasl is.
heaven-
Profile Joined February 2010
United States361 Posts
April 20 2011 19:23 GMT
#3277
On April 20 2011 14:14 ShooTouts wrote:
iNcontroL please keep your head up ... I have greatly enjoyed NASL so far and it will only improve !!!



Yeah i completely agree.


I would like to see more Diggity.

I find his commentary to be excellent. A little more Diggity, a little less Gretorp (Gretorp not bad but but i wanna see how Diggity and Incontrol do)

If more Diggity is not a possibility, 1 thing that would Greatly improve the casting is to try to not interrupt each other so much.
That is definitly one thing I noticed Gretorp and Incontrol do alot, they talk over each other frequently.

Other than that, Games are still awesome and I am super excited.


Diggity's youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/diggitySC

Check out his videos, the guy is a total professional and apparently has been around a while, I did not know who he was Until NASL.
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