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Yesterday's broadcast has had its issues. We all saw it. There are 10+ pages of whining. There is an entirely new cast going on now. Please keep whining about issues experienced yesterday to yourself going forward in the thread and allow other people to enjoy the games.
Lightwish01
Profile Joined April 2011
65 Posts
April 18 2011 23:06 GMT
#3221
I thought Lagtv was a decent part of the show
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
April 18 2011 23:23 GMT
#3222
I have not seen the LAGtv NASL material can that just be found in the NASL vods?
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Eanae
Profile Joined November 2010
United States8 Posts
April 18 2011 23:29 GMT
#3223
the Lagtv guys are amazing. Would keep them for sure.
tw!tch
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States563 Posts
April 18 2011 23:29 GMT
#3224
On April 19 2011 08:23 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I have not seen the LAGtv NASL material can that just be found in the NASL vods?


I don't believe the lagtv guys put it on youtube, so afaik that particular segment is only in the VOD's.
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 23:41:02
April 18 2011 23:40 GMT
#3225
On April 19 2011 07:33 DrivE wrote:
Just fyi
Lagtv issued an apology
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I didn't see the NASL broadcast.

Is the "When Cheese Fails" video on youtube?

What was so bad about it? In the apology video, they weren't really being specific. It was just the language? I looked at their channel and there are a handful of "When Cheese Fails" videos. Which one was it?

Thanks.


edit: Saw the post above mine... hm... okay.
TheResidentEvil
Profile Joined September 2010
United States991 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 23:44:15
April 18 2011 23:43 GMT
#3226
LagTV said the episode is dead to them and it will never be on again. Although if you watch the latest episode with Crota you can just guess why people were upset lol. They swear a lot, they use the word rape and they talked about their penis.

FYI i dont care but some people do
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 18 2011 23:48 GMT
#3227
I kinda feel sorry for them, i accept their apology and hope IF they're on again (which i wouldn't mind) they have better material and less swearing
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
ExPresident
Profile Joined January 2010
United States215 Posts
April 18 2011 23:57 GMT
#3228
Good on them for the apology. I saw the video last night when NASL aired it and while the humor may be bad I didn't care so much but that doesn't mean I don't understand peoples concerns and complaints. We as gamers will have to accept that we'll need to be more mature and politically correct the bigger e-sports gets.

best of luck to those guys tho.
slicknav
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
April 18 2011 23:58 GMT
#3229
All of LagTV's videos are commented in the same way that the NASL one was. The NASL should of known what they were getting into when they decided to bring these guys on. I've seem all the When Cheese Fails videos on youtube and what I saw during the broadcast was exactly what I expected. The NASL should have known the type of humor LagTV does and maybe even review the video before hand and decide whether or not it was appropriate for the fans and for the league.
blah blah blah...
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
April 19 2011 04:20 GMT
#3230
This is blown way out of proportion. They said some bad words that other casters have let slip on accident before anyways, and they use the term rape which is basically used by every gamer colloquially.

It wasn't that funny, but it really didn't deserve all the hate it got. People seriously baffle me sometimes.
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
April 19 2011 04:29 GMT
#3231
it's simple mass hysteria. People are slightly offended, see posts that are really offended, and find things to get angrier about.

At least that's the only rational way I can think of that people get so crazy.

I didn't see the segment, but from what I did see, I had a big ole banana grin on my face pretty much the whole time.

NASL is pretty fucking awesome. Meh, it's a little choppy from time to time, but its a free stream, and damn I love the casters.
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
Ramennoodlesoup
Profile Joined November 2010
United States24 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-19 04:41:31
April 19 2011 04:38 GMT
#3232
I'm thinking there were a lot of technical difficulties and LAGtv is getting to be the whipping boy for the night to let off some steam.

What evs. NASL should offer their own mea culpa for not introducing what kind of videos they create so people would have been more open minded instead of getting their delicate sensibilities bruised. Not to mention the fact that NASL they did screen it before and gave it the go ahead.

That said, it wasn't their best work. Understandable given the short amount of time they had. They should have chosen a winner from one of their previous Youtube videos. I personally thought that the one where the Protoss cannon rushed an unoccupied base was their finest hour.
Hootie hoo!
Grummler
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany743 Posts
April 19 2011 07:19 GMT
#3233
On April 19 2011 03:05 syllogism wrote:
For some reason NASL used a modified or outdated version of the map and Tyler didn't know about it. Seems like a really stupid decision not to use the maps all the other tournaments use, but apparently they are changing the map pool after this.

Mana seemed to know about the ramp as he made his gates there


Seems really stupid to play in a tournament without having read the tournament rules (chapter "maps used").

Its not like its the first time Tyler enters an important tournament totally unprepared. In his TSL matches he scouted close position even though it was impossible to spawn on close positions. He just didnt know because.. who knows?. Maybe he doesnt care at all. Some random tournaments, who cares about the map modifications?
workers, supply, money, workers, supply, money, workers, ...
Lightwish01
Profile Joined April 2011
65 Posts
April 19 2011 07:40 GMT
#3234
LagTVs video was fine imo. PPL just like to complain.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
April 19 2011 07:42 GMT
#3235
What is this lagtv stuff ? I missed it it seems. Can someone make a brief recap' ?
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-19 07:48:18
April 19 2011 07:46 GMT
#3236
On April 19 2011 16:19 Grummler wrote:
Seems really stupid to play in a tournament without having read the tournament rules (chapter "maps used").

Its not like its the first time Tyler enters an important tournament totally unprepared. In his TSL matches he scouted close position even though it was impossible to spawn on close positions. He just didnt know because.. who knows?. Maybe he doesnt care at all. Some random tournaments, who cares about the map modifications?

Maps used says GSL Crevasse. Picture on NASL.tv is the picture of GSL Crevasse. It was not GSL Crevasse (it's a map that never appeared on GSL but was how Crevasse looked like in their Beta map testing period). Please don't say things unless you know what you're talking about. The mistake is not with Tyler here. Although he should not have used the words he did. NASL has issues an apology and map change newspost.
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Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
April 19 2011 07:49 GMT
#3237
On April 19 2011 16:46 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2011 16:19 Grummler wrote:
Seems really stupid to play in a tournament without having read the tournament rules (chapter "maps used").

Its not like its the first time Tyler enters an important tournament totally unprepared. In his TSL matches he scouted close position even though it was impossible to spawn on close positions. He just didnt know because.. who knows?. Maybe he doesnt care at all. Some random tournaments, who cares about the map modifications?

Maps used says GSL Crevasse. Picture on NASL.tv is the picture of GSL Crevasse. It was not GSL Crevasse (it's a map that never appeared on GSL but was how Crevasse looked like in their Beta map testing period). Please don't say things unless you know what you're talking about. The mistake is not with Tyler here. Although he should not have used the words he did. NASL has issues an apology and map change newspost.


This puts it in an entirely new picture. I feel bad for Tyler now.

Has the refs said anything ? It seems like a blantant mistake from their side.
Dead girls don't say no.
CEPEHDREI
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1521 Posts
April 19 2011 07:53 GMT
#3238
wow thats rly bad
SasukeStreams
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands174 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-19 10:18:26
April 19 2011 09:43 GMT
#3239
Regarding the inappropriate word used..

Really who gives a flying fuck. I think this is being blown way out of proportion. Some words can be used in multiple ways and have a totally different meaning. In society, unless you are a total pussy you should develop a shield for these kind of things. Everyone get's confronted by things they are offended by every now and then and we all have to deal with it. I really don't see why people make such a big a drama out of this. I also highly doubt that the word rape on a gaming stream was referring to an act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person. And even if it did mean just that I don't see the problem. When you stop watching the NASL because of this you should stop watching the news as well.

Imagine not being able to say anything that others may find offensive or confronting .. You wouldnt be able to say 'he robbed him of those minerals' anymore because some people may have been robbed and traumatized.You couldn't say 'marines' anymore because someone has been traumatized during his time in the navy and gets upset everytime he just hears the word. Heck, you wouldn't be able to say ANYTHING anymore, not even something as trivial as 'camels', because for all you know the person next to you in the bus might suffer from camelphobia.

Don't get me wrong. I would love for people to take each other's feelings more into consideration during their daily lives, but this is just plain rediculous.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-19 10:33:17
April 19 2011 10:32 GMT
#3240
On April 19 2011 16:49 Sqq wrote:
This puts it in an entirely new picture. I feel bad for Tyler now.

Has the refs said anything ? It seems like a blantant mistake from their side.

http://www.nasl.tv/News/Article/2011-04-17-map-updates

We're fine with this. I think Tyler will want to explain a bit more on SotG because he didn't look so nice with the way he expressed himself, and I think he deserves the opportunity to explain the situation from his perspective so that everyone understands it better. As far as where we go from here; we understand that NASL is new to this scene and will make mistakes. What we care about the most is that they admit them and fix them, which is what they did and will do. So we're happy there is nothing further to be said.
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