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Its time to enjoy the matches, keep the whining out of this thread. GL HF!
Also, don't reply to the whining and ignore it: have faith in the mods, we read every post and act swiftly. You're making it worse. Enjoy!
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
April 17 2011 21:10 GMT
#5361
On April 18 2011 06:08 Zane wrote:
Cruncher is my new favourite player. Today he showcased innovative play, great multi-tasking, superb micro. I was a Mondragon fan but today he got outplayed so bad. (:


Seriously? I have seen the games where mondragon outplayed cruncher. And "innovative" style is going each game stargate into void/collo? Yeah very innovative..
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
April 17 2011 21:10 GMT
#5362
On April 18 2011 06:05 Sabu113 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 06:02 Clog wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:58 lord_ghostmaster wrote:
sadly i was right with my 3-1 prediction for today QQ
why no hydras vs mass stalkers? why so overreacting vs cannonrush?
so sad...


You don't go hydra against high templar.


Nor marine against toss.

-.- cmon now.


even hydras dont beat blink stalkers with any semblance of micro from the toss

User was temp banned for this post.
Gamgee
Profile Joined August 2010
United States135 Posts
April 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#5363
On April 18 2011 06:00 holy_war wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 05:59 Gamgee wrote:
Gotta say, I really hope Mondragon starts playing more SC2 (C'mon Artosis, you know you want to talk him into joining Sixjax ) - his very aggressive style is so refreshing to see, when so many Zergs are focused on the rush to 200/200 and a-moving to victory; and his awesome manners make him even better I just hope someone takes him aside and tells him how great Infestors are though, as I can't help but feel that a few Infestors sprinkled into those two games (probably wouldn't've helped against the cannon rush ) would've really given Mondragon the edge he'd need to win (and he showed the ability to multi-task well enough that I really think he could use them to their full potential).

And whooooo, Artosis casting next weekend! I'M GETTIN' NERD CHILLS! =D


Why would Mondragon join Sixjax when he's signed with MYM already?


Whoops, for some reason I thought MYM didn't have a SC2 team - I see I'm mistaken though (at least I think I am, they're players section of their website has some issues loading heh). Just scratch that bit about recruiting Mon out then
Airship
Profile Joined August 2010
United States465 Posts
April 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#5364
On April 18 2011 06:08 UltramilK wrote:
All the Zergs are out, guess I'll be cheering for Boxer now.


It's sad how often this or something similar happens. However I will be truly ecstatic if Boxer wins or is even in the final.
Dispersion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Korea (South)504 Posts
April 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#5365
On April 18 2011 06:08 Zane wrote:
Cruncher is my new favourite player. Today he showcased innovative play, great multi-tasking, superb micro. I was a Mondragon fan but today he got outplayed so bad. (:


I guess fair-weather fans are everywhere. Also, I'd love to see an example of this "superb micro" you're talking about.
Don't worry. Taht's just Halo
GrapeD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada679 Posts
April 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#5366
On April 18 2011 06:08 ABOOMAN wrote:
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On April 18 2011 06:07 Tegin wrote:
Pretty sure the better player won today, and that better player was CrunCher. That's why they played a best of 5. Anyone complaining because of the outcome need to realize CrunCher outplayed Mondragon, especially in the final game. It's sad to see no zergs left..maybe they need to pick their games up a bit to contend?



Yes all the zergs are bad, protoss players are just way more talented

Well obviously right? I mean why else would they be getting knocked out. I guess zergs just need to learn that being 70 food up on a protoss doesn't matter anymore.
Some people hurt people. I defenestrate those people.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
April 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#5367
On April 18 2011 06:09 MrSpider wrote:
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On April 18 2011 06:00 hugman wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:58 Seam wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:57 purgerinho wrote:
can someone tell me when was the last time Z player won some tournament in Korea or outside Korea.


Dreamhack, I think?


Dreamhack had a TvP finals


=>GSL worold team league, Zergs ruled over evrybody(Sen, Dimaga, July, and Nestea for the finish)
=>Loisira the GSL code A (Lol OK)

=>Stephano(Zerg) wins 3 sunday go4sc2 and 1 wednesday in nearly one month.
=>Dimaga wins the january go4sc2 final.
=>Ret wins assembly winter
=>Nerchio had also a lot of sucess those 2 last month


Moon won IEM (koreans and white dudes)
I am not young enough to know everything.
BGrael
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany229 Posts
April 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#5368
On April 18 2011 06:08 CScythe wrote:
Months later and people are still saying Zerg need to learn to play. You guys make these threads hard to read.

I agree. Let's not talk about balance. But plz also nobody say learn to play. Just lets not talk about this at all.

I would actually enjoy Naniwa vs. MC, or maybe Thorzain taking it all. But no zergs left makes me sad.
entropius
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1046 Posts
April 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#5369
On April 18 2011 06:07 Tegin wrote:
Pretty sure the better player won today, and that better player was CrunCher. That's why they played a best of 5. Anyone complaining because of the outcome need to realize CrunCher outplayed Mondragon, especially in the final game. It's sad to see no zergs left..maybe they need to pick their games up a bit to contend?


Are you trolling?

The likelihood that all of the zerg players who tried to qualify for TSL just need to "step up their games" is pretty low, statistically; that would require that all of the high-level zergs are slackers for some mysterious reason.

Or are you saying that there's just something about the zerg race that makes players who select it play poorly?
Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
April 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#5370
On April 18 2011 06:06 Clog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 06:04 Gigaudas wrote:
On April 18 2011 06:02 Tracedragon wrote:
Ulras/Infestors could have helped Mondi. :3
Great manner from him!


Feedback!

Roachs+corruptor+broodlord woud've perhaps been the best choice?


Are you trolling? All of those are bad against blink stalker


Oh, roaches+broodlord is what I meant. The corruptors were more "thinking ahead" for when Void Rays would come.

It won't be cost effective but I don't think there's any way for a zerg to be cost effective against blink stalkers + storm but at least a good amount of broodlords can force the stalkers to blink towards the zerg instead of away from the zerg. Roaches beat Stalkers as long as they get to go toe to toe.
I
branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
April 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#5371
On April 18 2011 06:09 Xadar wrote:
rofl 0 zerg in the tournament, wake up blizzard


Because it's just that simple!

It's not like 1) there are less Zerg players than the other races and 2) Zerg strategy feels somewhat underdeveloped.
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
April 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#5372
On April 18 2011 06:09 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
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On April 18 2011 06:03 Tommie wrote:
Mondragon had about 5000 gas worth of mutas produced during the game. Maybe even more. Cruncher made Phoenices and high templars and Stalkers. Had Cruncher controlled his phoenices better he would have owned even harder. Imagine 5000 gas worth of infestors this game. With heaps of zerglings running by all the time.
The last game was a tech path loss.

This x10000

Mondragon built mutas against an army of ht blink stalker and pheonix... of course he was going to lose, that would be like p complaining that his zealots keep dying to bc's therefore its imba... honestly people watch the games and ACTUALLY think about it before spamming LR's with balance QQ

Cruncher played great, the fact that people are surprised he lost to someone who admittedly doesn't play alot of sc2 is astounding, the biased fanboyism is insane.



You're looking at it wrong.

Cruncher made stalker/HT BECAUSE mondragon made mutalisks, so yea obviously infestors would've been good against that. But if he didnt make those mutalisks then cruncher would've just made the deathball like he did the other games, heavy on the colossi.
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
April 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#5373
On April 18 2011 05:57 purgerinho wrote:
can someone tell me when was the last time Z player won some tournament in Korea or outside Korea.

Nerchio won the Sennheiser Cup #10 yesterday.
David Dark
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland100 Posts
April 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#5374
After seeing the zergs wasted in ro16 I'm starting to think that infestors should be in every zergs midgame plan.
Hey dude, nice shot.
butch
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium684 Posts
April 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#5375
On April 18 2011 06:06 Callous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 23:39 Callous wrote:
3 - 1 to Naniwa
3 - 1 To Cruncher

Protoss!

Called it!

benjig strikes again.
Marauder Die Die
Muffel
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany137 Posts
April 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#5376
On April 18 2011 06:07 DonaldLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 06:05 branflakes14 wrote:
I love how people are saying Infestors would've been useless because of Feedback. Is everyone really stuck in this "X hard counters Y" mentality?


Yes. That and "You can't do X because of Y".

i like the P ignoring crunchers mistake when mondragon wins game 1 saying
"see this is how you have to play!!!!"

ignoring the big mistakes of cruncher completly

if cruncher wins its more like
"lol mondragon played just horrible! his dronesplit in the early was horrible! he made a 4/2 split!!!"

Cox:"I suppose I could riff a list of things that I care as little about as our last week together. Lemme see, uhh [...] Oh! And Hugh Jackman." J.D.: Hugh Jackman's Wolverine! How dare he.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
April 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#5377
The, "But they had High Templar" mentality is kind of stupid, you have to force shit to work sometimes.

Fungal Growth has 9 range, Feedback has 9 range, cast fungal before they can Feedback you.

It's not fucking impossible, don't just assume that the Zerg should throw his hands up in the air. Often times a composition will involve your opponent having a set of units that crush one half of your army, and another set that crush the other half, but the set that crushes one half is weak to the other half.

You make shit work, Zerg needs a single tech structure to produce units, throw shit in there, he was sitting on 1400 gas by the end of it.
LiOn
Profile Joined December 2002
Austria239 Posts
April 17 2011 21:12 GMT
#5378
kinda sad mondragon is out
진지해? ^_^
Tegin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States840 Posts
April 17 2011 21:12 GMT
#5379
On April 18 2011 06:08 ABOOMAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 06:07 Tegin wrote:
Pretty sure the better player won today, and that better player was CrunCher. That's why they played a best of 5. Anyone complaining because of the outcome need to realize CrunCher outplayed Mondragon, especially in the final game. It's sad to see no zergs left..maybe they need to pick their games up a bit to contend?



Yes all the zergs are bad, protoss players are just way more talented

Think you need to reread what I wrote. I never said Protoss was better. I said the better PLAYER won.
Pain is weakness leaving the body.
Befree
Profile Joined April 2010
695 Posts
April 17 2011 21:12 GMT
#5380
MC, Naniwa, Boxer, Kas. I think I could be happy with that final four .

But Thorzain, Adelscott, Hasuobs, Cruncher. semi-finals :p

All the more reason to chear on Boxer/MC next weekend though! I don't think Naniwa needs any cheering for his match.



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