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Its time to enjoy the matches, keep the whining out of this thread. GL HF!
Also, don't reply to the whining and ignore it: have faith in the mods, we read every post and act swiftly. You're making it worse. Enjoy!
UltramilK
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium92 Posts
April 17 2011 21:08 GMT
#5321
All the Zergs are out, guess I'll be cheering for Boxer now.
ABOOMAN
Profile Joined October 2010
Burma156 Posts
April 17 2011 21:08 GMT
#5322
On April 18 2011 06:07 Tegin wrote:
Pretty sure the better player won today, and that better player was CrunCher. That's why they played a best of 5. Anyone complaining because of the outcome need to realize CrunCher outplayed Mondragon, especially in the final game. It's sad to see no zergs left..maybe they need to pick their games up a bit to contend?



Yes all the zergs are bad, protoss players are just way more talented
lolo
CScythe
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada810 Posts
April 17 2011 21:08 GMT
#5323
Months later and people are still saying Zerg need to learn to play. You guys make these threads hard to read.
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 21:10:27
April 17 2011 21:08 GMT
#5324
I dislike Crunchers turtling style. I find it irritating that he's able to be that overzealous with cannons and eliminate the threat of drops and harassment completely, but I can't blame him for doing what he needs to do the win and exploiting the strengths of Protoss.
Axeinst
Profile Joined March 2011
Belize281 Posts
April 17 2011 21:08 GMT
#5325
Cruncher played well tonight.
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
April 17 2011 21:08 GMT
#5326
On April 18 2011 06:05 Sabu113 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 06:02 Clog wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:58 lord_ghostmaster wrote:
sadly i was right with my 3-1 prediction for today QQ
why no hydras vs mass stalkers? why so overreacting vs cannonrush?
so sad...


You don't go hydra against high templar.


Nor marine against toss.

-.- cmon now.


No that's actually true, because Hydras can't really dodge the storms, because they're fatter than marines, yet still very fragile. Marines fare much better honestly.

It looked like he trying to go mass ling at the end there, and honestly that was probably the best choice, but he didn't have the upgrades
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
April 17 2011 21:08 GMT
#5327
Cruncher is my new favourite player. Today he showcased innovative play, great multi-tasking, superb micro. I was a Mondragon fan but today he got outplayed so bad. (:
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
April 17 2011 21:08 GMT
#5328
On April 18 2011 06:07 GP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 06:04 dani` wrote:
On April 18 2011 06:03 oZii wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:59 425kid wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:59 ampson wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:57 slimshady wrote:
Very good manners by Mondragon, and it sucks he lost.
Although I'm a protoss, I gotta ask: what could Mondragon do better in the last game? It seems to me that he played very well.


Maybe get some infestors with that 1.7K gas, commit less to mutalisks against blink stalker/HT. There's plenty of things that he could do better.

HT hard counter infestors. you know that right?



Uhh no they don't. They really don't counter each other. As the above poster stated get the infestors to go along with the mutas. Fungal stops the blink zerglings can surround. He was kind of implying that without stating it.

HTs insta-kill Infestors using Feedback. There is no way you can say HTs do NOT counter Infestors unless you are joking.

Stop using the word "counters" You're making Day9 lose sleep at night.



He's making me lose sleep at night by using the phrase "Fantastic Storms" "Fantastic Forcefields"
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 21:09:05
April 17 2011 21:08 GMT
#5329
On April 18 2011 06:07 Tegin wrote:
Pretty sure the better player won today, and that better player was CrunCher. That's why they played a best of 5. Anyone complaining because of the outcome need to realize CrunCher outplayed Mondragon, especially in the final game. It's sad to see no zergs left..maybe they need to pick their games up a bit to contend?


words of wisdom

they are competitive players, play to win. Don't rely on blizzard to win the games for you. Game 2 was probably the best game of the series where cruncher outplayed his way of losing 2 bases and using sick micro to finish it out with a push downt he middle.

GG guys dont harp on balance, stop whining and just appreciate these great games.

Infestors
Nydus
Ultralisks

open some doors
Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
April 17 2011 21:08 GMT
#5330
On April 18 2011 06:08 ABOOMAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 06:07 Tegin wrote:
Pretty sure the better player won today, and that better player was CrunCher. That's why they played a best of 5. Anyone complaining because of the outcome need to realize CrunCher outplayed Mondragon, especially in the final game. It's sad to see no zergs left..maybe they need to pick their games up a bit to contend?



Yes all the zergs are bad, protoss players are just way more talented


I hear continuing to mass muta versus 4 base blink stalker, high templar, and phoenix is a great idea.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
SoL[9]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Portugal1370 Posts
April 17 2011 21:08 GMT
#5331
Teamliquid now is full of trolls or just retard people. Is sad. But well now we watch SC2 instead of BW so is probably related in somehow.
Mondi <3
I Can Fly...
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 21:09:26
April 17 2011 21:08 GMT
#5332
On April 18 2011 06:04 Incursus wrote:
This series upsets me... I mean, I believe in playing to win of course. But it didn't seem fair, Mondragon was playing so well, battering CrunCher left and right. Normally when someone wins a series that convincingly it feels natural to say they played better. But here it doesn't, it doesn't seem fair that Mondragon lost, he's so much better than CrunCher, I'm sorry but it's true. If CrunCher wins this TSL, I will be deeply upset. Hopefully Naniwa will beat him, as Naniwa is actually very good.

CrunCher is just a cheesey player who likes to BM people. I'm bothered by these results.

I cannot wait to see what State of the Game has to say about all this.

tbh when you do it half the time it's not really cheese any more, and it's ironic that you're talking about BM when not so long ago Naniwa was a lot worse.
And if looks like you're winning the whole game and then you lose, you probably weren't winning. Whatever Idra may say, the game is not about doing a lot of stuff and looking skilled but doing the appropriate moves in order to win, and in that respect Cruncher was the more skilled player. Whether these appropriate moves are much less interesting than in BW is your decision to make.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
April 17 2011 21:08 GMT
#5333
On April 18 2011 06:06 LastMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 06:00 hugman wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:58 Seam wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:57 purgerinho wrote:
can someone tell me when was the last time Z player won some tournament in Korea or outside Korea.


Dreamhack, I think?


Dreamhack had a TvP finals

PVP*

If you just say "Dreamhack" then I'm going to think of the main event.
Dreamhack invitational had a PvP finals yes
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
April 17 2011 21:09 GMT
#5334
Looking foward to CrunCher interview.
MrSpider
Profile Joined January 2011
France173 Posts
April 17 2011 21:09 GMT
#5335
On April 18 2011 06:00 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 05:58 Seam wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:57 purgerinho wrote:
can someone tell me when was the last time Z player won some tournament in Korea or outside Korea.


Dreamhack, I think?


Dreamhack had a TvP finals


=>GSL worold team league, Zergs ruled over evrybody(Sen, Dimaga, July, and Nestea for the finish)
=>Loisira the GSL code A (Lol OK)

=>Stephano(Zerg) wins 3 sunday go4sc2 and 1 wednesday in nearly one month.
=>Dimaga wins the january go4sc2 final.
=>Ret wins assembly winter
=>Nerchio had also a lot of sucess those 2 last month
Les androïdes rêvent-ils de moutons électriques ?
Incursus
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States415 Posts
April 17 2011 21:09 GMT
#5336
The only TSL games I am going to watch are BoxeR's now. Well that and CrunCher vs Naniwa.
Don't be surprised when a crack in the ice...appears under your feet.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
April 17 2011 21:09 GMT
#5337
On April 18 2011 06:03 Tommie wrote:
Mondragon had about 5000 gas worth of mutas produced during the game. Maybe even more. Cruncher made Phoenices and high templars and Stalkers. Had Cruncher controlled his phoenices better he would have owned even harder. Imagine 5000 gas worth of infestors this game. With heaps of zerglings running by all the time.
The last game was a tech path loss.

This x10000

Mondragon built mutas against an army of ht blink stalker and pheonix... of course he was going to lose, that would be like p complaining that his zealots keep dying to bc's therefore its imba... honestly people watch the games and ACTUALLY think about it before spamming LR's with balance QQ

Cruncher played great, the fact that people are surprised he lost to someone who admittedly doesn't play alot of sc2 is astounding, the biased fanboyism is insane.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
April 17 2011 21:09 GMT
#5338
On April 18 2011 06:08 CScythe wrote:
Months later and people are still saying Zerg need to learn to play. You guys make these threads hard to read.

Lol,balance whining isnt making it any easier.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
April 17 2011 21:09 GMT
#5339
On April 18 2011 06:08 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 06:07 GP wrote:
On April 18 2011 06:04 dani` wrote:
On April 18 2011 06:03 oZii wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:59 425kid wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:59 ampson wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:57 slimshady wrote:
Very good manners by Mondragon, and it sucks he lost.
Although I'm a protoss, I gotta ask: what could Mondragon do better in the last game? It seems to me that he played very well.


Maybe get some infestors with that 1.7K gas, commit less to mutalisks against blink stalker/HT. There's plenty of things that he could do better.

HT hard counter infestors. you know that right?



Uhh no they don't. They really don't counter each other. As the above poster stated get the infestors to go along with the mutas. Fungal stops the blink zerglings can surround. He was kind of implying that without stating it.

HTs insta-kill Infestors using Feedback. There is no way you can say HTs do NOT counter Infestors unless you are joking.

Stop using the word "counters" You're making Day9 lose sleep at night.



He's making me lose sleep at night by using the phrase "Fantastic Storms" "Fantastic Forcefields"


they were pretty good though and his job is to hype shit up
Kevmeister @ Dota2
VforVinDiesel
Profile Joined May 2010
United States41 Posts
April 17 2011 21:09 GMT
#5340
On April 18 2011 06:07 Tegin wrote:
It's sad to see no zergs left..maybe they need to pick their games up a bit to contend?


Yeah Zergs, just play better.
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