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Strausticles
United States113 Posts
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nokz88
Brazil1253 Posts
On April 15 2011 13:17 TheResidentEvil wrote: Tastosis even come out and say who they want to win. Kind of dumb to get on inc for this This. It doesn't get much more biased than Tastosis when some players are inside the booth. However, it does not make the cast worse for me. Incontrol being somewhat biased is totally fine in my book. It's so slight that in fact I did not notice the bias until someone pointed it out. | ||
lazyfeet
United States468 Posts
On April 15 2011 13:20 TheTenthDoc wrote: BitByBit, hated on. Clide, overpraised. Boxer, overpraised. Nada, overpraised. Rain, hated on. PoltPrime, hated on. Leenock, probably overpraised. All of them have no relationship with tastess or artosis. BitByBit is that bad. Boxer and Nada are legendary in bw. All of those are Tastess and artosis's opinions. Unlike incontrol he got 4 teammates in nasl and im pretty sure 100% he isn't gonna say a bad thing about them. The way he praise alexav and rooting for him is clearly is showed in the casting is very irritating. | ||
billyX333
United States1360 Posts
On April 15 2011 13:27 TheResidentEvil wrote: is that a joke? lol. yeah bitbybit gets praised when he rushes people by tastosis. do you even watch GSL lol did you even read what i said? tastosis generally don't praise clide while hes losing straight up in a macro game (if they do, they are joking) and if bitbybit beat MVP in a 40 minute slugfest, i'm 100% positive tastosis would praise him | ||
ch0c0b0fr34k
United States452 Posts
On April 15 2011 13:27 unSpeake wrote: CANNOT BELIEVE dde lost that third game.... never seen a bigger choke in my entire life. 4 base vs 3 with one of nadas completely locked down.. and he fucking pulls back! aghghahgg. and knew the only way he could lose was mass drop.... and builds 1 turret to protect that side of base. AGHGHGH I breathed a sigh of relief at the fact that Nada managed to win that game. If dde won, it would have felt as if the world I was living in popped and life itself flipped upside down... | ||
CEPEHDREI
Germany1521 Posts
On April 15 2011 13:26 billyX333 wrote: that praise is pre game analysis only. during game, if brilliant play is demonstrated by the winner, he is always praised yeah and thats the difference right now. | ||
Arcanne
United States1519 Posts
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mprs
Canada2933 Posts
On April 15 2011 13:05 Penecks wrote: Finally they fixed the volume, or maybe Gretorp just stopped yelling, either way the sound has improved quite a bit, very glad. They fixed it, ala a tweet. | ||
jenzebubble
United States183 Posts
On a completely separate note. Did anyone notice Inc spoiled the results of the Squirtle/Axslav game during the DDE/Nada match? | ||
Nicodemusher
United States188 Posts
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PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
I think it's maybe a likability factor we have here? Artosis had a huge amount of flak in early GSL seasons for his zerg bias, but he toned it down to a degree (and reversed it with being Protoss) but he became a much more likable kind of guy with some flaws as the seasons progressed. Incontrol I guess is a guy who some people love to hate, but I find his personality hilarious (and I hope he breaks down into more of that Rumble in the Bronze kind of caster). I don't think the (to quote a word of Gretorp), "synergy" is there between the casters though and it's not really anyone's fault. I think Incontrol needs a different caster to play off of. That being said, I definitely think people are biased themselves with how they are perceiving caster bias and really just finding things to complain about. | ||
Spicy Pepper
United States632 Posts
On April 15 2011 13:15 elmizzt wrote: Apollo and demuslim as well as tastosis are more biased than incontrol is in their casts. I think it's YOUR bias that overemphasizes his bias in your perception. I don't expect you to read all my posts, but I addressed the fact that other commentators are biased ALSO. I'm not clueless about this. You can be a good commentator and still be biased. You can be a great commentator and really likable, and your bias will become something the audience will enjoy (eg. BIT BY BIT or CLIIIIDE). Maybe you're biased about my bias about their bias. Your move. | ||
TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On April 15 2011 13:30 lazyfeet wrote: All of them have no relationship with tastess or artosis. BitByBit is that bad. Boxer and Nada are legendary in bw. All of those are Tastess and artosis's opinions. Unlike incontrol he got 4 teammates in nasl and im pretty sure 100% he isn't gonna say a bad thing about them. The way he praise alexav and rooting for him is clearly is showed in the casting is very irritating. BitByBit was hated the instant he did an all-in. He was hated on for winning, pure and simple. That aside, Artosis gets to have opinions and obviously root for specific players and turn a blind eye to their failures but iNc doesn't just because Artosis isn't on their team and iNc is? Huh? There's no real difference. Day9 always cheers on Dario when he comments him in live tournaments, for example, but no one ever hates on him. | ||
Bear4188
United States1797 Posts
On April 15 2011 13:37 PartyBiscuit wrote: Side note, I genuinely believe Clide is just a kind of inside joke because he has some marginal level of skill and a hilarious name. I think it's maybe a likability factor we have here? Artosis had a huge amount of flak in early GSL seasons for his zerg bias, but he toned it down to a degree (and reversed it with being Protoss) but he became a much more likable kind of guy with some flaws as the seasons progressed. Incontrol I guess is a guy who some people love to hate, but I find his personality hilarious (and I hope he breaks down into more of that Rumble in the Bronze kind of caster). I don't think the (to quote a word of Gretorp), "synergy" is there between the casters though and it's not really anyone's fault. I think Incontrol needs a different caster to play off of. That being said, I definitely think people are biased themselves with how they are perceiving caster bias and really just finding things to complain about. Incontrol just receives a ton of hate because he's made a lightning rod of himself by being so very active in the community by posting on TL and his role on State of the Game. The silent majority of us just appreciate all he does for the community, unfortunately he also has to deal with children screaming at him. Secretly, though, we all know Geoff loves to tell idiots to STFU and GTFO. | ||
PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
On April 15 2011 13:39 TheTenthDoc wrote: BitByBit beat Artosis in an early tourney by all-inning him iirc, so that's why I believe it's personal. That aside, Artosis gets to have opinions and obviously root for specific players and turn a blind eye to their failures but iNc doesn't just because Artosis isn't on their team and iNc is? Huh? There's no real difference. Day9 always cheers on Dario when he comments him in live tournaments, for example, but no one ever hates on him. I agree with the points you're making, but just pointing out that BBB never faced off against Artosis (unless it was an open qualifier, but I'm pretty sure Artosis only mentions Byun's DTs for that). | ||
Jman5
United States745 Posts
On April 15 2011 12:58 Axslav wrote: the build i did g1 can hold a 4gate totally fine on any small ramp map (it's a varient on the 3 stalker build but getting the gateway at 11 so you can get all 3 from one gate quick using chrono). I lost on metal b/c I didn't realize the map had close spawns enabled and was so confused when i didn't see him at the 2nd spot I scouted that I screwed up the build order really badly and got everything later than normal. Would it be possible for NASL to give the players some better and more clear-cut warning about the map spawns? I have seen it happen quite a bit in tournaments where a player loses because he doesn't realize that the map either has or does not have altered spawn locations. When you have 3-4 versions of the same map and players are going from one tournament to another, I can completely understand why this happens. Sure, you can argue that it is the player's responsibility to know the maps, but I think from the viewers perspective, it makes for a lousy match. No one wants to see a player get stomped because of something as simple as this. | ||
billyX333
United States1360 Posts
On April 15 2011 13:37 PartyBiscuit wrote: Side note, I genuinely believe Clide is just a kind of inside joke because he has some marginal level of skill and a hilarious name. its definitely a joke. artosis picked this guy to win GSL1 during the ro16 and then clide obviously lost and then artosis again hyped clide through the roof ro64 gsl2. He was telling a story about how impressed he was when watching clide's screen and picked him to dominate in his ro64 match (clide got manhandled and lost 0-2) | ||
TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On April 15 2011 13:40 PartyBiscuit wrote: I agree with the points you're making, but just pointing out that BBB never faced off against Artosis (unless it was an open qualifier, but I'm pretty sure Artosis only mentions Byun's DTs for that). Ah. That's probably what I was confusing. Thanks, I'll edit my posts. | ||
Skithiryx
Australia648 Posts
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Devolved
United States2753 Posts
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