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Scribble
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ItsMeDomLee
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Hunterai
Thailand842 Posts
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
On April 13 2011 02:43 Haberdasher wrote: U mad you're race is getting exposed as being OP while you still aren't getting tourney results??? Do you even know who you are talking to? During the entire time Protoss was considered underpowered last year, Nony didn't even complain ONE BIT, even in the STOG's, he was convinced that game wasn't developed and that is what he said to one of the questions in a STOG long ago, something about how Protoss need to figure out safer methods of playing | ||
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buscemi
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On April 13 2011 02:44 Alexj wrote: Why, WHY do we have to suffer justin.tv streaming at major tournaments? Luckily we have aftonbladet.se stream this time, but NASL relies entirely on justin.tv  I really don't think it's solely a JTV issue. I very rarely have any issue with JTV, even at 1080p. Although it might be because usually I watch US streamers and there aren't a lot of EU viewers of those, maybe so many people watching JTV is overloading their EU servers? | ||
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frucisky
Singapore2170 Posts
On April 13 2011 02:42 I_Love_Bacon wrote: Go attempt to attack with HydrA at far position off of creep and see how well it turns out for you. I'm also amused that everybody thinks IdrA was raging and that's why he did a 6 pool. How many tournaments have you seen IdrA cheese in after losing a game? He has to beat MC 2 games in a row, taking a chance isn't a bad idea. Slight edit: although 6 pool is really, really bad imo and cheese is an important factor in the game, but zerg lacking good cheese definitely punishes their ability to play more mindgames w/ bo's. This! There are so many posts going on about Idra too passive, Idra should have done this, Idra should have done that. Okay fine, he tried. He did make so many brilliant moves. Going from roach into pure hydra after sniping colossus. Macro-ing like a boss despite that immense early pressure. A beautiful creep spread push. The problem is ZvP is so fucking hard, he makes one mistake and BAM blink stalkers kill everything. ZvP is just too damn unforgiving for Zerg and just so damn forgiving for toss. Toss always have wall-ins, and sentries to fall back on. Zerg can't even punish a toss well because hydras are so slow. | ||
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gladsheim
Australia676 Posts
omg Dreamhack is amazing | ||
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calin
Australia107 Posts
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00Visor
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On April 13 2011 02:43 Dragar wrote: You're all really mistaken if you think that 6-pool wasn't planned before the matches. Idra is a tournament player; they have plenty of experience with going on tilt. They will and do plan their games beforehand. He was always going to 6-pool on Xel'Naga, win or lose the first game. No way Idra actually has the plan to 6pool before a series starts. Especially on XelNaga. | ||
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Tegin
United States840 Posts
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jungsu
United States279 Posts
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TooN
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On April 13 2011 02:36 Heaton31 wrote: I'm really interested to hear what Tyler has to say on SOTG tonight. Tyler is prob gonna just say how much he doesn't like the way MC plays protoss. Even though MC makes all the right decisions. | ||
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esaul17
Canada547 Posts
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On April 13 2011 02:44 ihavetofartosis wrote: PvP finals :'( Sjow have beaten Whitera before, it's not finished yet. | ||
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dubRa
2165 Posts
On April 13 2011 02:44 iNcontroL wrote: uhhhhhhhhhhh IdrA throws away 3-4 queens a few ovies and some drones vs a phoenix opening... has MC on the ropes but then stops attacking... IdrA gets 7 bl's and sticks his army in a choke spot and dies easily "PVZ IMBALANCED!" MC had 0 defenses at both his 3rd/4th. IdrA took a late 4th / never corrupted after killing the Collo in the first fight and didn't scout expansions. Late on infesters as well. Had he waited for infesters and massed some bl's while harrassing the expos with lings or something he'd be fine and that is ONLY after him NOT throwing 4 base of production into 2 collo (idra had corruptors out) and 5 stalkers... The thing that pisses me off the most though is that OK so you make a mistake at the end and it costs you the game.. why give up on game 2? You had him on the ropes like 3 separate times EVEN IF you want to argue "I can't win!" you at least came REALLY REALLY close vs the best fucking protoss on the planet... what more do you want? Give game 2 a try jesus He gave an Action.Jesus try! | ||
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halvorg
Norway717 Posts
I guess that explains some, G3 old shakuras versus MC ZvP would be VERY hard. | ||
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LittleAtari
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
On April 13 2011 02:40 Heaton31 wrote: It goes back to what Incontrol said on the stream. IdrA beats himself. His play wasn't flawless in game 1, he made mistakes. Enough mistakes to lose to MC or you or any Protoss. It'd be hilarious if IdrA actually thought he outplayed MC in game 1. IdrA played quite well for most of the game but threw away his most important units in a fit of greed. If you throw away 7 broodlords for about 7 probes, then you deserve to lose the game. It doesn't matter about his mechanics, his "skill", he owned himself with game-losing decision-making. If throwing away the units that keep you in the game is not bad play by IdrA's definition then I don't know what is. How can you "outplay" an opponent when you make the worst decision possible at 20 minutes in? Who cares if your macro is insane, your timings are perfect, your army composition is unreal if you throw away all your advantages with a terrible decision? IdrA needs to understand that playing well requires you to play well in the crucial moments of the game. | ||
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Apolo
Portugal1259 Posts
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On April 13 2011 02:44 iNcontroL wrote: uhhhhhhhhhhh IdrA throws away 3-4 queens a few ovies and some drones vs a phoenix opening... has MC on the ropes but then stops attacking... IdrA gets 7 bl's and sticks his army in a choke spot and dies easily "PVZ IMBALANCED!" MC had 0 defenses at both his 3rd/4th. IdrA took a late 4th / never corrupted after killing the Collo in the first fight and didn't scout expansions. Late on infesters as well. Had he waited for infesters and massed some bl's while harrassing the expos with lings or something he'd be fine and that is ONLY after him NOT throwing 4 base of production into 2 collo (idra had corruptors out) and 5 stalkers... The thing that pisses me off the most though is that OK so you make a mistake at the end and it costs you the game.. why give up on game 2? You had him on the ropes like 3 separate times EVEN IF you want to argue "I can't win!" you at least came REALLY REALLY close vs the best fucking protoss on the planet... what more do you want? Give game 2 a try jesus Maybe you should actually play a game from a zergs perspective. I'm getting so tired of protoss players, pros or not, throwing their opinion around when they have never actually expierenced it User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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