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Canada3609 Posts
On April 10 2011 08:42 BanelingXD wrote: If Team Liquid keeps losing games like this people are gonna call it rigged. lulwut? "let's rig the TL tournament so that all the TL members lose right away!" How does that make any sense... | ||
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Mahs
Netherlands171 Posts
I can't wait for tomorrows games! On April 10 2011 08:43 unoriginalname wrote: I know this has been discussed to death, but what are the latency rules for Tyler vs Thorzain? US to EU. The Stalker control in Set 2 was just... bad and I think he missed with all the forcefields that attempted to catch hellions in Set 1. It was stated by the casters to make latency as fair as possible, game 1 was played on NA servers, game 2 and 3 on EU servers, and game 4 and 5 if required would be back on NA servers. I think that's a very fair system, and in addition to that I'm quite sure that the NA-EU connection is good enough for lag to be a nonissue? | ||
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jaydee81
Germany119 Posts
On April 10 2011 09:10 rO_Or wrote: I guess Starcraft is a bit a a consolation for some of the Europeans since the US dominates so hard in other sports? IDK but there is a ton of US hate flying around these forums. EU ladder is definitely a bit more competitive than NA ladder but if you watch the TL streams of any of the NA pros you'll see that a lot of them have top masters accounts on EU as well. As for Sweden, it has always been a major gaming community through many different games and you can't make fair comparisons between it and the US. Alot of the NA top players are college kids with tons of other obligations and interests where as in Sweden most of them are hardened gaming pros. If you want to compare Sweden to the US in ANY other sport I'm sure youd find a huge disparity but its no reason to blurt out "US > SWEDE LOLZ" because there are probably good social reasons why it is so. Not sure what you are on about, because I fail to see the "US hate". All I've ever seen were comments/interviews/statements that the EU ladder might be a little more competative than the US ladder. Probably I should just let it fly, because judging from you analogy you don't seem to comprehend very well, but still - the "dominance" in other sports is on both sides mostly limited to whatever is popular I guess. Thus, I don't think anyone has to over-compensate based on the maybe existing slight edge in SC2 (and I think we this is not about "top 3 EU > top 3 US" or something, more about average masters or whatever) to make up for Europes utter failure in other sports... | ||
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mprs
Canada2933 Posts
On April 10 2011 09:33 nvs. wrote: lulwut? "let's rig the TL tournament so that all the TL members lose right away!" How does that make any sense... swooooooooooooosh | ||
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GriNn
United States243 Posts
What the fuck, TL. What the fuck. | ||
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Zealot Lord
Hong Kong748 Posts
Not only can they easily just switch into a robo build like MC did after scouting, even against 4gate rush itself, Its just too fragile and risky.. if they get 1 pylon near you, its already pretty much over - its so dependent on scouting luck imo. | ||
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Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
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jaydee81
Germany119 Posts
On April 10 2011 09:35 switchdev wrote: I really enjoyed todays matches, very surprised Thorzain took his series so overwhelmingly, even though Tyler wasn't playing to his full potential it was still very convincing play from Thorzain. MC did exactly what I expected, such a dominant player. I can't wait for tomorrows games! It was stated by the casters to make latency as fair as possible, game 1 was played on NA servers, game 2 and 3 on EU servers, and game 4 and 5 if required would be back on NA servers. I think that's a very fair system, and in addition to that I'm quite sure that the NA-EU connection is good enough for lag to be a nonissue? You do feel the difference; most people probably have like <50ms on their server and ~300ms or so on the other, it is noticable. But when I was young and we were all still on 56k dial-up and then ISDN (64k) we even played intercontinental QuakeWorld/Quake2 clanwars just for kicks... just had to adopt your playstyle slightly  About on which servers they played, maybe it's just too late for me to comprehend, but why did they go with US-EU-EU-US-US instead of US-EU-US-EU-US? | ||
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Headnoob
Australia2108 Posts
although hopefully artosis can stop calling him equal to MC now. | ||
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godemperor
Belgium2043 Posts
while PvP is pretty boring, at least not both player start with a 4 WP rush in the games. | ||
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TheBB
Switzerland5133 Posts
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Xaeldaren
Ireland588 Posts
I was surprised how short today was, I was all excited and set up to watch two epic Bo5s and I end up with two pretty straightforward and disappointing sets. | ||
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loveeholicce
Korea (South)785 Posts
 . Nothing against the actual tournament itself; the production, casting, stream quality, punctuality, and write ups have all been fantastic, but literally every player i've been rooting for has lost lol. MVP, Fruitdealer, Nestea, Idra, Ret, Tyler, and Jinro . Sens still in it though, hoping he'll go far :D | ||
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naventus
United States1338 Posts
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mpupu
Argentina183 Posts
Also, this prediction seems contradictory: "TLAF-Liquid`Tyler vs Praae.ThorZaIN: Will Tyler's typical high level of preparation be able to overcome ThorZaIN's game-sense he demonstrated vs. Fruitdealer? I don't think so. Tyler." | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On April 10 2011 09:31 Wizdom_SC2Cast wrote: Why do people constantly put words in tylers mouth?! He never said, that he thinks MC isn't good. He simply said he didn´t like his style, because it is risky at times and depends heavily on timing pushes. Tyler even said quite a few times, that MC is probably the best Toss in the world at the moment. Not liking his style is not saying "he isn´t good". Totally agree, while Tyler clearly isn't fond of MC's style, he has given props to the champ. He just wasn't ready to anoint him a Bonjwa yet. That being said though, Tyler set himself up for the backlash, he had to know that it was coming in this TSL. All of the critiquing and dissecting of MC's play might have been academic for him, but for the fans, he was hyping the matchup. MC was one round away and, frankly, Tyler got knocked out before he even stepped into the ring. And like any community, we love to tear down our heroes. | ||
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Sooji
United States121 Posts
On April 10 2011 10:29 loveeholicce wrote: TSL has been blah so far . Nothing against the actual tournament itself; the production, casting, stream quality, punctuality, and write ups have all been fantastic, but literally every player i've been rooting for has lost lol. MVP, Fruitdealer, Nestea, Idra, Ret, Tyler, and Jinro . Sens still in it though, hoping he'll go far :DYeah same here. It's nothing against TSL, the tournament itself has been run perfectly, and the players involved are amazing. It's too bad they all keep losing -_- I'm quickly running out of people to cheer for. Gogo Sen and Boxer. Its too bad you all play one another : / | ||
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godemperor
Belgium2043 Posts
On April 10 2011 10:25 TheBB wrote: No recommended games?! Not really Game 1: White starts with 3 stalker, then to 4 gate and 1 robo for WP. MC does gate to robo and archives. MC Crushes white ra with blink. Game 2: White ra feigns going tech, but 4 warp gates rushes, MC does 1 gate robo and then add more gateways. MC crushes white ra with sentries. Game 3: White ra does 3 gate expand since MC has not 4 gated in the previous 2 games. MC places 2 pylons in a position hidden from white-ra. MC crushes white ra with much bigger army. So 3 clinical PvP from MC, but not too exciting. | ||
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kvn4444
1510 Posts
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
Tyler's performance was unexpectedly weak, particularly given the amount of time he had to prepare for this series. Never in any of those games did he feel in control, like he had an edge. I remember Tyler saying in an interview he develops all builds by himself and does not really practice that much with the rest of Liquid. If that was again the case in the run-up to the Ro16 it seems like a bit of a waste. | ||
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