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On April 04 2011 17:21 Vorenius wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 12:05 Lightwish01 wrote:On April 04 2011 10:23 ChroMe! wrote:
The best replay is the third one when IdrA tells HuK to eff off. Agreed. That was epic. In game chat went like this broadcasted globally: Huk - "Hey Idra, just so you know last game you could have won" IDRA - "F*^%K-OFF" Huk - "Just so you know half my army was hallucinations" It was just plain epic How on earth can people consider this BM from Idra?! If anything HuK should have been given an official warning or possible been DQ'd. Talking in-game is against MLG rules for this exact reason. Now I can understand they don't go after everyone saying some random thing but this was specifically meant to provoke Idra and influence the game. This just confirms the image I had of HuK as a douche.
I wouldn't go that far and make a conclusion about HuK. Passing judgment like that is just as bad as the people who want to bash IdrA every step of the way. I think they both chose poor ways to handle it. IdrA manned up and took his loss. HuK felt it was necessary to harass him next game and IdrA replied in a rude manner. It should have been a simple "glgl" and nothing else.
It should also be noted that HuK broke tournament rules by doing so.
3. Players may not chat in-game unless they are engaging in pre-game sportsmanship or surrendering the Game.
Which leads me to question this...
6. Breaking any of Gameplay Rules #2-5 will result in a Forfeit of the Game.
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On April 04 2011 17:21 Vorenius wrote:
How on earth can people consider this BM from Idra?!
If anything HuK should have been given an official warning or possible been DQ'd. Talking in-game is against MLG rules for this exact reason. Now I can understand they don't go after everyone saying some random thing but this was specifically meant to provoke Idra and influence the game.
This just confirms the image I had of HuK as a douche.
What I loved was Idra's comment in the interview after his 3-0 victory in the rematch. "And I knew Huk can't beat me in a real game"... made me laugh, considering the way he lost earlier.
... and I don't understand why everybody considers it "ragequitting" when you just surrender without typing out gg ... to me, ragequitting is when you start typing shit complaining, calling people names etc, before quitting.
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On April 04 2011 02:35 two.watup wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 00:40 ZerganicChem wrote:
All you really need to know is Idra played like a noob, lost like a noob, then cried like a noob like he always does. He had a better army and economy when he left. He lost because he saw more than what he expected, and extrapolated that his opponent had a huge advantage, which was not the case. A single poor judgement. I really dislike IdrAs BM, but you can't fault his play.
Actually you can fault him for giving up way too early instead of playing the game out. Even if the VRs had been real it wasn't an instant loss, Idra had half the map and could see his opponent didn't have the whole other half.
Manners aside quitting early, especially on tilt, does not win games and in fact often loses players the next one. If anything what a lot of Korean pros seem to do, staying in the game an extra minute or so after it's clearly over so they can take a few deep breaths and calm down, is the much more intelligent and professional approach.
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On April 04 2011 17:21 Vorenius wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 12:05 Lightwish01 wrote:On April 04 2011 10:23 ChroMe! wrote:
The best replay is the third one when IdrA tells HuK to eff off. Agreed. That was epic. In game chat went like this broadcasted globally: Huk - "Hey Idra, just so you know last game you could have won" IDRA - "F*^%K-OFF" Huk - "Just so you know half my army was hallucinations" It was just plain epic How on earth can people consider this BM from Idra?! If anything HuK should have been given an official warning or possible been DQ'd. Talking in-game is against MLG rules for this exact reason. Now I can understand they don't go after everyone saying some random thing but this was specifically meant to provoke Idra and influence the game. This just confirms the image I had of HuK as a douche.
You don't consider telling to someone to FUCK OFF in a live broadcast game bad manners??
Your parents did a fantastic job in teaching you exceptional manners and decorum!
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On April 04 2011 12:05 Lightwish01 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 10:23 ChroMe! wrote:
The best replay is the third one when IdrA tells HuK to eff off. Agreed. That was epic. In game chat went like this broadcasted globally: Huk - "Hey Idra, just so you know last game you could have won" IDRA - "F*^%K-OFF" Huk - "Just so you know half my army was hallucinations" It was just plain epic Why are you trying to smear Idra? Huk was laughing in the chat, said none of that "just so you know" stuff, and Idra didn't type in caps. Hard to make Idra look like a good guy, but Huk pulled it off.
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Omg how many more thousand of threads you going to make? Look on the forum. There are at least 22934902 posts of this already. -_-
gg
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On April 04 2011 17:55 holycrapitsTony wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 17:21 Vorenius wrote:On April 04 2011 12:05 Lightwish01 wrote:On April 04 2011 10:23 ChroMe! wrote:
The best replay is the third one when IdrA tells HuK to eff off. Agreed. That was epic. In game chat went like this broadcasted globally: Huk - "Hey Idra, just so you know last game you could have won" IDRA - "F*^%K-OFF" Huk - "Just so you know half my army was hallucinations" It was just plain epic How on earth can people consider this BM from Idra?! If anything HuK should have been given an official warning or possible been DQ'd. Talking in-game is against MLG rules for this exact reason. Now I can understand they don't go after everyone saying some random thing but this was specifically meant to provoke Idra and influence the game. This just confirms the image I had of HuK as a douche. I wouldn't go that far and make a conclusion about HuK. Passing judgment like that is just as bad as the people who want to bash IdrA every step of the way. I think they both chose poor ways to handle it. IdrA manned up and took his loss. HuK felt it was necessary to harass him next game and IdrA replied in a rude manner. It should have been a simple "glgl" and nothing else. It should also be noted that HuK broke tournament rules by doing so. Show nested quote +3. Players may not chat in-game unless they are engaging in pre-game sportsmanship or surrendering the Game. Which leads me to question this... Show nested quote +6. Breaking any of Gameplay Rules #2-5 will result in a Forfeit of the Game.
Yeah that was my point. There is a reason the rules are the way they are.
Last year MLG restarted a game that Tyler had almost won and defended their decision by saying "rules are rules" and yet they don't enforce this at all.
I can understand them overlooking something like "taht's halo" because it was all in good fun and didn't really help Huk. But this was deliberately trying to provoke Idra and get an advantage in the game because Idra is known to take loses bad.
On April 04 2011 18:02 Drteeth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 17:21 Vorenius wrote:On April 04 2011 12:05 Lightwish01 wrote:On April 04 2011 10:23 ChroMe! wrote:
The best replay is the third one when IdrA tells HuK to eff off. Agreed. That was epic. In game chat went like this broadcasted globally: Huk - "Hey Idra, just so you know last game you could have won" IDRA - "F*^%K-OFF" Huk - "Just so you know half my army was hallucinations" It was just plain epic How on earth can people consider this BM from Idra?! If anything HuK should have been given an official warning or possible been DQ'd. Talking in-game is against MLG rules for this exact reason. Now I can understand they don't go after everyone saying some random thing but this was specifically meant to provoke Idra and influence the game. This just confirms the image I had of HuK as a douche. You don't consider telling to someone to FUCK OFF in a live broadcast game? Your parents did a fantastic job in teaching you exceptional manners and decorum!
You should look up "irony" 
Besides Idra response was completely justified.
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bah, there is simply no talking to idra fanboys
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Is there any link for all replays?
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On April 04 2011 18:27 Drteeth wrote:
bah, there is simply no talking to idra fanboys
This isn't a case of fanboyism. It's a case of professionalism, which neither players showed in that situation. Following the rules of the tournament, that they agreed to by joining, HuK should have forfeited the game.
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The problem is a judge probably doesn't want to force HuK or any other decent player to forfeit a deciding match on something like that comment.
They should have a yellow card system. Then judges know that its not going to ruin a tourney for a 'one-off' but repeat offenders will unfortunately be disqualified.
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On April 04 2011 18:48 Dreaming11 wrote:
The problem is a judge probably doesn't want to force HuK or any other decent player to forfeit a deciding match on something like that comment.
They should have a yellow card system. Then judges know that its not going to ruin a tourney for a 'one-off' but repeat offenders will unfortunately be disqualified.
It doesn't matter. There are rules set in place and everyone (including MLG) has agreed on these way ahead of time.
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Maybe if IdrA changed his attitude players wouldn't want to rub it in or provoke him? And I'm sorry, but HuK explaining how/why IdrA lost and IdrA saying "f off" are in two seperate worlds.
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On April 04 2011 21:25 Tegin wrote:
Maybe if IdrA changed his attitude players wouldn't want to rub it in or provoke him? And I'm sorry, but HuK explaining how/why IdrA lost and IdrA saying "f off" are in two seperate worlds.
Yeah, the fact that IdrA BMs in battle.net gives everyone the right to provoke him in a deciding match in a tournament with lots of money at stake.
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I dont like Idra or HuK. Theyre both BM. people trying to defend HuK right now are just making themselves look bad. i hate idra but he was not in the wrong here. in a tournament where you cant speak in game besides normal GGs and GLS its atrocious that players would be able to try to provoke another player with no consequences
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how is Huk at fault for pointing out that his army was hallucinations? it was probably a very good move, as it put idra even more off his game. starcraft is half about getting into your opponents head, and huk did exactly that...
it seems that idra is a great player, but he often times loses to the meta game.
also, hopefully idra will stop gging so quickly (against protoss at least) now.
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On April 04 2011 22:01 ishboh wrote:
how is Huk at fault for pointing out that his army was hallucinations? it was probably a very good move, as it put idra even more off his game. starcraft is half about getting into your opponents head, and huk did exactly that...
it seems that idra is a great player, but he often times loses to the meta game.
also, hopefully idra will stop gging so quickly (against protoss at least) now.
Way to...
NOT read the thread.
NOT know the MLG rules where you're not ALLOWED TO TALK in game besides GG and Gl.
Use the phrase meta-game incorrectly.
HuK trolled Idra hard, spiting him, breaking MLG rules, and yet went unpunished. Thats all there was to it.
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On April 04 2011 18:02 greycubed wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 12:05 Lightwish01 wrote:On April 04 2011 10:23 ChroMe! wrote:
The best replay is the third one when IdrA tells HuK to eff off. Agreed. That was epic. In game chat went like this broadcasted globally: Huk - "Hey Idra, just so you know last game you could have won" IDRA - "F*^%K-OFF" Huk - "Just so you know half my army was hallucinations" It was just plain epic Why are you trying to smear Idra? Huk was laughing in the chat, said none of that "just so you know" stuff, and Idra didn't type in caps. Hard to make Idra look like a good guy, but Huk pulled it off.
I just rewatched the replay and it literally says:
LiquidHuk: u realize
LiquidHuk: most of that army
EGIdrA: fuck off
LiquidHuk: was halluc
LiquidHuk: just saying
LiquidHuk: u werent loss
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On April 04 2011 21:05 holycrapitsTony wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 18:48 Dreaming11 wrote:
The problem is a judge probably doesn't want to force HuK or any other decent player to forfeit a deciding match on something like that comment.
They should have a yellow card system. Then judges know that its not going to ruin a tourney for a 'one-off' but repeat offenders will unfortunately be disqualified. It doesn't matter. There are rules set in place and everyone (including MLG) has agreed on these way ahead of time.
Sadly this isn't the case, the only tournament i know of that always enforces the rules and penalties for not following them is the ESL, and i know it gets a lot of bad publicity from people for the amount of disqualifies due to penalty points that goes on.
TL;DR - No tournament wants to DQ a popular player, or basically do anything that will derail the discussion about the tournament and it's games.
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well, idra vs huk are 3 games right? y there are only 2 replays online at mlg?
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