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On April 04 2011 17:57 aebriol wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 17:21 Vorenius wrote:
How on earth can people consider this BM from Idra?!
If anything HuK should have been given an official warning or possible been DQ'd. Talking in-game is against MLG rules for this exact reason. Now I can understand they don't go after everyone saying some random thing but this was specifically meant to provoke Idra and influence the game.
This just confirms the image I had of HuK as a douche. What I loved was Idra's comment in the interview after his 3-0 victory in the rematch. "And I knew Huk can't beat me in a real game"... made me laugh, considering the way he lost earlier. ... and I don't understand why everybody considers it "ragequitting" when you just surrender without typing out gg ... to me, ragequitting is when you start typing shit complaining, calling people names etc, before quitting.
sure, if you're just a regular guy who play SC in your usual time, just quitting without saying GG is probably the norm. Hell, i rarely even say gg myself, coz i really couldn't care less.
But in big tournaments, where courtesy is a requirement for players, where it's considered customary to say glfh and gg, not saying gg somewhat implies that the losing player felt unsatisfied with the end result.
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Yes yes we all know he lost to hallucinations but the point of releasing replays is so we can analyze them ourselves. Me, for example, would like to know all the subtle timings that led idra to that ling/baneling midgame so I can strait up steal it.
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On April 04 2011 00:40 ZerganicChem wrote:
All you really need to know is Idra played like a noob, lost like a noob, then cried like a noob like he always does.
User was temp banned for this post.
Excellent first post -____-
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On April 04 2011 17:21 Vorenius wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 12:05 Lightwish01 wrote:On April 04 2011 10:23 ChroMe! wrote:
The best replay is the third one when IdrA tells HuK to eff off. Agreed. That was epic. In game chat went like this broadcasted globally: Huk - "Hey Idra, just so you know last game you could have won" IDRA - "F*^%K-OFF" Huk - "Just so you know half my army was hallucinations" It was just plain epic How on earth can people consider this BM from Idra?! If anything HuK should have been given an official warning or possible been DQ'd. Talking in-game is against MLG rules for this exact reason. Now I can understand they don't go after everyone saying some random thing but this was specifically meant to provoke Idra and influence the game. This just confirms the image I had of HuK as a douche.
"u realize"
"most of that army"
"fuck off" -judging by timing, it was typed after "u realize"
Huk should not have talked in-game like that, but same goes for Idra. Seeing his opponent type "u realize" doesn't automatically obligate him to respond with "fuck off" in-game. You can't defend either player for it.
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Any luck with finding that 2nd replay? I'm almost starting to believe that it's intentionally "missing" either by a request from Idra or MLG deciding to censor things on their own for whatever reason.
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On April 04 2011 23:23 Sein wrote:
Any luck with finding that 2nd replay? I'm almost starting to believe that it's intentionally "missing" either by a request from Idra or MLG deciding to censor things on their own for whatever reason.
As was pointed out earlier in the thread, the replay is too large for their upload system (it's not the only one missing last time I checked - see Haypro vs Gretorp Game 2, which was also a long game) so they have to get it up manually or somesuch. It'll be up sooner or later, they're not going to censor it.
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MLG is on top of releasing replays. I mean they already releasing stuff from the weekend. you all need to have some patience or go watch all the GSL replays.....yeah
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awww sucks that they didnt include the illu voidray one yet  im so looking forward to it
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On April 04 2011 04:48 Psquared wrote:
I wouldn't say that Idra rage quit as much as I would say that he thought he was going to get owned and decided to just leave early, thinking that a loss was imminent. HuK really didn't have to bring up the fact that he used hallucinations at the start of the 3rd match considering that Idra was probably already PO'ed that he had lost.
Tilting your opponent is a pretty common practice in most esports, from CS, to fighting games (especially fighting games). It may not be mannered, but when are manners going to come into play when there's thousands of dollars on the line?
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i like how people seem to forget that huk also typed
"LOL" after he was being a douchebag to IdrA and just pretend like the entire thing is idras fault.
Either way Idra got his revenge
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On April 04 2011 17:21 Vorenius wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 12:05 Lightwish01 wrote:On April 04 2011 10:23 ChroMe! wrote:
The best replay is the third one when IdrA tells HuK to eff off. Agreed. That was epic. In game chat went like this broadcasted globally: Huk - "Hey Idra, just so you know last game you could have won" IDRA - "F*^%K-OFF" Huk - "Just so you know half my army was hallucinations" It was just plain epic How on earth can people consider this BM from Idra?! If anything HuK should have been given an official warning or possible been DQ'd. Talking in-game is against MLG rules for this exact reason. Now I can understand they don't go after everyone saying some random thing but this was specifically meant to provoke Idra and influence the game. This just confirms the image I had of HuK as a douche.
This isn't Korean BW... There aren't any penalties for talking in game.
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On April 05 2011 01:33 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 17:21 Vorenius wrote:On April 04 2011 12:05 Lightwish01 wrote:On April 04 2011 10:23 ChroMe! wrote:
The best replay is the third one when IdrA tells HuK to eff off. Agreed. That was epic. In game chat went like this broadcasted globally: Huk - "Hey Idra, just so you know last game you could have won" IDRA - "F*^%K-OFF" Huk - "Just so you know half my army was hallucinations" It was just plain epic How on earth can people consider this BM from Idra?! If anything HuK should have been given an official warning or possible been DQ'd. Talking in-game is against MLG rules for this exact reason. Now I can understand they don't go after everyone saying some random thing but this was specifically meant to provoke Idra and influence the game. This just confirms the image I had of HuK as a douche. This isn't Korean BW... There aren't any penalties for talking in game.
Would it KILL YOU to know the rules before posting? MLG clearly states, any player that initiates conversation outside of pre-game gl's, WILL BE DISQUALIFIED.
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I wanna watch this game just for the lolz. I hope idra thinks twice instead of just GGing and raging out all the time
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On April 05 2011 01:35 ch33psh33p wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 01:33 GreEny K wrote:On April 04 2011 17:21 Vorenius wrote:On April 04 2011 12:05 Lightwish01 wrote:On April 04 2011 10:23 ChroMe! wrote:
The best replay is the third one when IdrA tells HuK to eff off. Agreed. That was epic. In game chat went like this broadcasted globally: Huk - "Hey Idra, just so you know last game you could have won" IDRA - "F*^%K-OFF" Huk - "Just so you know half my army was hallucinations" It was just plain epic How on earth can people consider this BM from Idra?! If anything HuK should have been given an official warning or possible been DQ'd. Talking in-game is against MLG rules for this exact reason. Now I can understand they don't go after everyone saying some random thing but this was specifically meant to provoke Idra and influence the game. This just confirms the image I had of HuK as a douche. This isn't Korean BW... There aren't any penalties for talking in game. Would it KILL YOU to know the rules before posting? MLG clearly states, any player that initiates conversation outside of pre-game gl's, WILL BE DISQUALIFIED. '
Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the rules.
Firstly, you're incorrect about anything outside of pre-game gl's will result in disqualification; you forgot that "gg" at the end of the game is also allowed.
Secondly, Where does it say anything about INITIATING conversation? It simply says:
3. Players may not chat in-game unless they are engaging in pre-game sportsmanship or surrendering the Game.
This means that they both broke the rules; it's not a case of "well HuK initiated the conversation". It doesn't matter who started it, the fact is that they both engaged in conversation and hence both broke the rules.
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I just hope that MLG learns from this, Huk should have been DQ because of manners. He clearly broke the rules. Chat should be prohibited for just this reason. BM has no place in Esports. Idra was quite rude but you need to follow rules.
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On April 05 2011 01:18 goiflin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 04:48 Psquared wrote:
I wouldn't say that Idra rage quit as much as I would say that he thought he was going to get owned and decided to just leave early, thinking that a loss was imminent. HuK really didn't have to bring up the fact that he used hallucinations at the start of the 3rd match considering that Idra was probably already PO'ed that he had lost. Tilting your opponent is a pretty common practice in most esports, from CS, to fighting games (especially fighting games). It may not be mannered, but when are manners going to come into play when there's thousands of dollars on the line?
Manners don't matter when there is thousands of dollars on the line. But the rules do: 3. Players may not chat in-game unless they are engaging in pre-game sportsmanship or surrendering the Game. 6. Breaking any of Gameplay Rules #2-5 will result in a Forfeit of the Game.
It's just bullshit that after they were so adamant to enforce the rules whatever the price last year (re-playing Tyler's game on the wrong map) the still don't really care about this particular rule.
I'm not even singling out Huk, there were plenty of other players guilty of this. In fact, I'd be just as happy if they just scrapped the rules all together. No one who watched the Huk vs Idra games can deny it was entertaining if anything. But they have to either enforce the rules or change them.
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On April 05 2011 01:33 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 17:21 Vorenius wrote:On April 04 2011 12:05 Lightwish01 wrote:On April 04 2011 10:23 ChroMe! wrote:
The best replay is the third one when IdrA tells HuK to eff off. Agreed. That was epic. In game chat went like this broadcasted globally: Huk - "Hey Idra, just so you know last game you could have won" IDRA - "F*^%K-OFF" Huk - "Just so you know half my army was hallucinations" It was just plain epic How on earth can people consider this BM from Idra?! If anything HuK should have been given an official warning or possible been DQ'd. Talking in-game is against MLG rules for this exact reason. Now I can understand they don't go after everyone saying some random thing but this was specifically meant to provoke Idra and influence the game. This just confirms the image I had of HuK as a douche. This isn't Korean BW... The written rules are only enforced at arbitrary times.
Fixed it.
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Does anyone have a link to the huk interview after that?
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idra needs some anger management..
Before Huk went to Korea I called him captain 4 gate because that's all he ever did and was really boring to watch.
Now that he's gone to Korea and gotten Code S (also I've been watching his stream) it's clear that he's a really super solid player, just probably doesn't have a good enough game plan sometimes.
But yet he's still not getting respect from Idra? I'm an Idra fan but at this point I don't know where his angst is coming from. Before I always enjoyed it when he was whining about TvZ.
Anyway it's pretty clear the best way to beat IdrA is to let him beat himself. Just play a little non-standard and he'll overdrone and get put at a disadvantage, and whenever he's at a disadvantage he usually just leaves the game.
Also I don't care about the MLG rules... there's been plenty of ingame chat in the past with the "dont worry that's halo" stuff. Huk probably shouldn't have been BM'ing IdrA but TBH I'm not sure that was really BM. I mean was there enough time in between games tow atch the replay.. and did he do it?
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They are not saying what "engaging in pre-game sportsmanship" means. I mean telling Idra that he just lost to hallucinations is pretty manner by Huk imo and there for not breaking any rules.
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