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On April 03 2011 13:07 SC2Phoenix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 13:03 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On April 03 2011 13:02 SC2Phoenix wrote:On April 03 2011 12:59 Teth wrote:
lol Idra would of lost anyways? He had like 10 Corrupters and 8 Broodlords. That alone was enough to beat Huk's 5 Colossi and his 7 Stalkers. He had 11 sentries and 21 stalkers with 5 colossi and a bunch of zealots. I dont think 8 broodlords and mass zergling in gonna beat that lol... Are you referring to game two? o.O IdrA was WAY ahead of HuK, in both supply and bases. There was no way he was going to lose that game, unless he had done something incredibly stupid (like leave for no reason ::cough:  . If they had played it out, IdrA would have 2-0ed HuK easily. He was only up 20 supply which a zerg should be and what do you mean Idra had more bases? It was half map verus half map with Idra going to mine out sooner. The best Idra could have hoped for with that push would have been a draw from that angle. Go watch the replay, no way idra would have won that game.
Idra was still mining on like 3 bases though, Huk I think only had the 11 up and running. His main and natural were mined out and he couldn't get consistent mining from the gold, the 9 o'clock, or it's natural because they were consistently under fire. Even if Idra lost that entire force he would have been able to rebuild and finish Huk off.
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On April 03 2011 13:10 eggs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 13:09 tjg92 wrote:
The last two days have been EXTREMELY frustrating. I had a terrible time at MLG, I'm definitely not going tomorrow and I'm going to try my damnedest to get my 25 bucks back. so the stream down affected the live crowd just as badly?
Yes. When you see MLG live you see everything people do at home. They show people what they are streaming on the projector for everyone. The only added bonus to going live is meeting people and checking out other games.
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For everyone saying "Omg Idra should have stopped and had Huk DQ'd!!!!". WTF.
Obviously none of you are competitors in any sense. I, for one, would not want to beat somebody on a technicality as dumb as chatting before a game. Someone like Idra is so headstrong and confident that they think they can beat anyone that they come up against, they don't need a cheap victory over something like that. I guarantee if something had been done, to either player, neither of them would have enjoyed the win. Anyone who does enjoy to compete, enjoys winning by being the better player, not by having it handed to you.
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On April 03 2011 13:10 eggs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 13:09 tjg92 wrote:
The last two days have been EXTREMELY frustrating. I had a terrible time at MLG, I'm definitely not going tomorrow and I'm going to try my damnedest to get my 25 bucks back. so the stream down affected the live crowd just as badly?
there were barely any live casted games, so yeah
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On April 03 2011 12:59 iCCup.Nove wrote:
I really hate how Naniwa dominating takes a backseat to all of this. All you new posters kill these threads.
Feels surreal, sort of because we never got to see any of his games 
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On April 03 2011 13:13 eggs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 13:11 cronican wrote:
I actually feel really bad for MLG. Today really couldn't have gone much worse. Blame it on what you want, but it has to be regarded as an absolute disaster. I'm certain that heads will roll in the MLG board meeting next week.
I'll still support them though. This is their first event of the year and I expected it to be a little bumpy. (not this bumpy). I truly hope that they can turn it around in Columbus, for their sake. I don't want to think what a second catastrophe of this proportion would do to MLG.
can't blame MLG for the lag, it was a local internet issue. blame MLG for not initially offering refunds. blame blizzard for not having a LAN version for major tournaments. i'll support MLG as long as they keep away from WoW arena.
Let me tell you about that, they blamed the ISP (for ALL the problems) and then Sundance said on Twitter that it was only the main stage when there were streamers present that caused it. In summation, they didn't know what the problem was and just fabricated lie after lie to shift blame.
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On April 03 2011 13:05 DoomsVille wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 12:57 AzurewinD wrote:On April 03 2011 12:47 DoomsVille wrote:
Anyways, I tihnk there is a good chance IdrA was going to lose anyways. The colossi would have ripped through the broodlings. Those broodlords had minimal ground support (30 lings? dead in 5 seconds with those 6 colossi with upgrades). And IdrA was out of money. Personally I think he would have lost either way. But it would have been close.
It was pretty hilarious though lol Huh? Did you see the replay? HuK had almost no stalkers, several sentries, some zealots and several collossi. Collossi die to both the corruptors and the broodlords, stalkers die to the broodlings (and certainly can't kill that many broodlords) while the zerglings mop up the rest. HuK even admitted in the next game IdrA had that won. It wouldn't have been close. Were we watching the same replay??? Huk had atleast 15-20 stalkers (out of position yes, but with blink) and 5-10 sentries. IdrA had no overseers so he couldn't be sure exactly which colossi/voids were real (assuming he realized atleast some were hallucinations). Good chance his corruptors wouldn't be focusing the right units. Especially since he clearly thought all the voids were real (or else, why would he quit?). If he stayed his corruptors would have focused down the voids while his broods died with the colossi ripping apart all the broodlings/zerglings... And no I'm not saying that is absolutely what would have happened. I am saying there is a very good chance that would have happened. I don't think it was anywhere near as clear that idra was going to win as people are saying. And of course Huk is going to say IdrA weren't loss. He was clearly trying to piss him off...
We were watching the same replay!!!!!!!!!!! ^_^
Well I've done all I can to explain the situation. I'll just add that HuK's probe lines were obliterated at that point in the game, IdrA had almost every base on his side of the map, minus the gold, plus a full compliment of drones and almost full saturation. Even if he did lose that battle, theres no way he would've been able to match IdrAs ability to reproduce. Like I said, the casters broke it down afterwards. IdrA had the advantage there and he left.
Clearly trying to piss him off, while being right at the same time. You don't admit that your opponent wasn't about to lose unless its clear he wasn't about to lose. IdrA knew it too.
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About the BM and all, it may be possible that players don't know or don't remember every rules. They may have forgotten about the "no chat" rule.
Nonetheless Idra vs. Huk game 2 was very entertaining, Huk showed great strategy.
Overall day 2 was... interesting. After 6 hours I saw maybe three or four bo3 games. Casted from replays. The funny part is that MLG staff told us that they knew 2010 events had big flaws, and they told us that they would improve. Now we know that was bs. Good job, Mister Sundance "I made 20M$ in 2010" DiGiovanni.
The worst part is delaying the TSL to make way for this MLG
Good night and have fun.
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On April 03 2011 13:13 Uhh Negative wrote:
I don't think MLG values their online audience as much as they do their live audience which is a shame. Obviously they want the stream to run perfectly but I think a lot of their effort is spent on the on-site preparations for the fans that are actually there. Then again, GOM runs things smoothly. It seems like MLG would have had enough time by now to get all the streaming issues worked out, but I'm sure they will get it down eventually. It's just unfortunate for all of us who are not there.
This is absolutely not true. The bulk of their support comes from the online audience, and while they would try everything to get those online viewers to attend LANs in person, they would never to anything that might hurt the viewership.
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Where are people getting replays? MLG site? Link please.
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On April 03 2011 13:14 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:Huk vs Idra match 2 replay is not up
yeah, I noticed that. 'course, it was longer, and it seems that MLG just has 56k to the rest of the world given their stream stability.
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On April 03 2011 13:12 ffdestiny wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 13:11 cronican wrote:
I actually feel really bad for MLG. Today really couldn't have gone much worse. Blame it on what you want, but it has to be regarded as an absolute disaster. I'm certain that heads will roll in the MLG board meeting next week.
I'll still support them though. This is their first event of the year and I expected it to be a little bumpy. (not this bumpy). I truly hope that they can turn it around in Columbus, for their sake. I don't want to think what a second catastrophe of this proportion would do to MLG.
As this has happened at every MLG tournament, I think it's about par for the course. that is a lie most MLG events go pretty smooth. is a one time event so far and you guys really need to layoff mlg. what if they decide the SC2 fanbase has too many cry babies and drops the game next year?(not saying they will) would that make you happy? if you don't like it just turn it off and go for a walk winter is over.
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On April 03 2011 13:14 roofs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 12:59 kNyTTyM wrote:On April 03 2011 12:57 DaRKMaTT3r wrote:Anyone know why this link is showing FXOSheth and Sixjax_CocoA in loser's bracket instead of Grubby and Tri_Master? Sheth and CocoA placed below 16th while grubby and Tri-Master were 9th-16th. Was that a mistake or there was any game that decided that? http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-dallas-starcraft2-champ.html# (Click on losers on the left) Grubby and trimaster are both out. Not in 9th-16th Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 13:00 00Visor wrote:
There is a open loosers bracket. Grubby and TriMaster lost there. Wow.... how do three people all end up being wrong? The reason Grubby+TriMaster aren't being shown is unknown... but it's painfully obvious that they both belong in Cocoa+Sheth's spot as these two only made it to Round 4/Round 3 respectively. Grubby and TriMaster made it to Round 5, so they're definitely in the top 16 of the open bracket. Perhaps the organizers screwed up or they had to leave and were not able to participate in the tournament... who knows. Refer to: http://i.imgur.com/sWDsl.pngand this: http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-dallas-starcraft2-open.htmlAnd you'll see that Grubby+TriMaster + all the people that made it to the Round 5 (but didn't make it to Round 6) belong in the 9-th-16th spots.
You aren't taking into account the loser's bracket of the open. Trimaster lost to Sheth in the deciding match for 9-16th. He is definitely out.
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On April 03 2011 13:14 roofs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 12:59 kNyTTyM wrote:On April 03 2011 12:57 DaRKMaTT3r wrote:Anyone know why this link is showing FXOSheth and Sixjax_CocoA in loser's bracket instead of Grubby and Tri_Master? Sheth and CocoA placed below 16th while grubby and Tri-Master were 9th-16th. Was that a mistake or there was any game that decided that? http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-dallas-starcraft2-champ.html# (Click on losers on the left) Grubby and trimaster are both out. Not in 9th-16th Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 13:00 00Visor wrote:
There is a open loosers bracket. Grubby and TriMaster lost there. Wow.... how do three people all end up being wrong? The reason Grubby+TriMaster aren't being shown is unknown... but it's painfully obvious that they both belong in Cocoa+Sheth's spot as these two only made it to Round 4/Round 3 respectively. Grubby and TriMaster made it to Round 5, so they're definitely in the top 16 of the open bracket. Perhaps the organizers screwed up or they had to leave and were not able to participate in the tournament... who knows. Refer to: http://i.imgur.com/sWDsl.pngand this: http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-dallas-starcraft2-open.htmlAnd you'll see that Grubby+TriMaster + all the people that made it to the Round 5 (but didn't make it to Round 6) belong in the 9-th-16th spots.
Sir, I designed the graphic that you are referring to, and I can say with confidence that it is you who are wrong.
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On April 03 2011 13:16 staplestf2 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 13:12 ffdestiny wrote:On April 03 2011 13:11 cronican wrote:
I actually feel really bad for MLG. Today really couldn't have gone much worse. Blame it on what you want, but it has to be regarded as an absolute disaster. I'm certain that heads will roll in the MLG board meeting next week.
I'll still support them though. This is their first event of the year and I expected it to be a little bumpy. (not this bumpy). I truly hope that they can turn it around in Columbus, for their sake. I don't want to think what a second catastrophe of this proportion would do to MLG.
As this has happened at every MLG tournament, I think it's about par for the course. that is a lie most MLG events go pretty smooth. is a one time event so far and you guys really need to layoff mlg. what if they decide the SC2 fanbase has too many cry babies and drops the game next year?(not saying they will) would that make you happy? if you don't like it just turn it off and go for a walk winter is over.
Where have you been all my life.
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On April 03 2011 13:14 roofs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 12:59 kNyTTyM wrote:On April 03 2011 12:57 DaRKMaTT3r wrote:Anyone know why this link is showing FXOSheth and Sixjax_CocoA in loser's bracket instead of Grubby and Tri_Master? Sheth and CocoA placed below 16th while grubby and Tri-Master were 9th-16th. Was that a mistake or there was any game that decided that? http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-dallas-starcraft2-champ.html# (Click on losers on the left) Grubby and trimaster are both out. Not in 9th-16th Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 13:00 00Visor wrote:
There is a open loosers bracket. Grubby and TriMaster lost there. Wow.... how do three people all end up being wrong? The reason Grubby+TriMaster aren't being shown is unknown... but it's painfully obvious that they both belong in Cocoa+Sheth's spot as these two only made it to Round 4/Round 3 respectively. Grubby and TriMaster made it to Round 5, so they're definitely in the top 16 of the open bracket. Perhaps the organizers screwed up or they had to leave and were not able to participate in the tournament... who knows. Refer to: http://i.imgur.com/sWDsl.pngand this: http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-dallas-starcraft2-open.htmlAnd you'll see that Grubby+TriMaster + all the people that made it to the Round 5 (but didn't make it to Round 6) belong in the 9-th-16th spots.
Sorry to tell you, but you are completely wrong. The people who make it to round 6 are given the seeds 1-8. Everyone else is sent to the Open Tourney Loser's bracket. Grubby + Trimaster lost in the last round of the Loser's bracket therefore they did not make it to the championship loser's bracket.
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Jimmy reaper Bunker Rushes Vibe, looks like he will take G2.
LZ seems to have beaten OptikZero by forfeit?
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On April 03 2011 13:13 Uhh Negative wrote:
I don't think MLG values their online audience as much as they do their live audience which is a shame. Obviously they want the stream to run perfectly but I think a lot of their effort is spent on the on-site preparations for the fans that are actually there. Then again, GOM runs things smoothly. It seems like MLG would have had enough time by now to get all the streaming issues worked out, but I'm sure they will get it down eventually. It's just unfortunate for all of us who are not there.
Live audience was left just as bad, whatever was showed on the stream was what the live audience was getting unless they wanted to look over the shoulders of the players, or if they were lucky, the feature stations.
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Please someone update me on the BM and drama. I was away teaching and came back 100 pages later. I'm too lazy to look through them all
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