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pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
March 31 2011 16:02 GMT
#2881
Protoss players are just ridiculously pulling ahead of the Competiton . I'm waiting for that one spark of Genius or one New Revolutionary Build by the Terran that shifts momentum back to the Terran.

Basically we need a Terran Bisu.
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
March 31 2011 16:14 GMT
#2882
On March 31 2011 20:37 WingEn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2011 20:34 Pekkz wrote:
What I really have a problem with is every zerg seems to say they have a reallly really hard time against protoss. Every protoss say PvZ is their best match up. Is it hard to draw the conclusion that something is not as it should be in this MU....

PvZ is my worst.
PvT is my best.
Hi.
Every human in this world love chocolates. Why? Because I say so.


Wasnt talking about bronze level players.
abominable
Profile Joined March 2011
101 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 16:18:48
March 31 2011 16:18 GMT
#2883
jinro appeared on the top level from nowhere when economy/macro terran came to power...

but since people have started cheesy / punishing play which makes FE unbelievably hard to hold, it's nowhere near as good anymore... and jinro is suffering.
croupier
Profile Joined July 2010
United States92 Posts
March 31 2011 16:27 GMT
#2884
(caveat: i haven't seen the games yet)

It looks from the discussion that the koreans handily beat the foreigners. We had a thread dedicated to the korean reaction to the World Vs. Korea team showmatch where the foreigners did pretty well. I wonder what the Korean reaction was to these matches last night? I wonder if all the respect that the foreigners got has since been put down a notch. Or maybe all that respect was only in the TL fan community, i don't really know.

Interesting results for sure anyhow.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 31 2011 16:30 GMT
#2885
Apparently, I read a post from Jinro in another thread saying that he had been slacking off in the past weeks. Also, he has been having tons of trouble with TvP, especially Phoenix and Stargate openers.

Anyways, sad to see that the only foreigners advancing are the ones from the foreigner vs foreigner match. It looked like the Koreans were well-prepared this time, and I fear for Dimaga and TT1.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
LesPhoques
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada782 Posts
March 31 2011 16:30 GMT
#2886
On April 01 2011 01:14 Pekkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2011 20:37 WingEn wrote:
On March 31 2011 20:34 Pekkz wrote:
What I really have a problem with is every zerg seems to say they have a reallly really hard time against protoss. Every protoss say PvZ is their best match up. Is it hard to draw the conclusion that something is not as it should be in this MU....

PvZ is my worst.
PvT is my best.
Hi.
Every human in this world love chocolates. Why? Because I say so.


Wasnt talking about bronze level players.


I am masters protoss here...
PvZ is my worst MU.
PvT is my best MU.
PvP is at 65% win rate.

I think I only lost PvT twice in masters league, due to me making a most retarded mistake. WingEn has a great point.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
March 31 2011 16:34 GMT
#2887
Happy for all results except Jinro.

Sad to see him not win a single WC game =(

He didn't get the whole "macro terran" thing going on. Got punished and was behind all the time =(
CardG
Profile Joined March 2011
France131 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 16:35:27
March 31 2011 16:34 GMT
#2888
Hey, is there any vods i can look for mkp v sen? editfound sorry for that)
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
March 31 2011 16:36 GMT
#2889
pvp is my best matchup
pvt is 50/50
pvz i seem to never win
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
March 31 2011 16:45 GMT
#2890
Jinro really should've won the first game, but the second was really tough.

As T, you can't go 3-rax after a fast expand because the MC-style expand into 6-gate just crushes it. So you have to go 4-rax. But then you're tech is delayed, so you don't have vikings/medvacs out in sufficient number if the toss goes for a straight (basically naked) 1-gate expand into colossi. And with the nerf to stim, it's really tough to get a good timing rush out that can punish such a build. As we saw, by the time Jinro's stim was done, there was already a colossus out plus sentries.

Perhaps you just need to skip stim/shields and go straight to factory --> medvacs and get the upgrades later? That's a very late stim, though.

I look forward to someone finding a solution. I hope it'll be Jinro, 'cause he looked awesome with those shades. :-)
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
March 31 2011 16:46 GMT
#2891
So does this mean jinro will hop a flight to dallas in time for mlg open bracket?^^
holycrapitsTony
Profile Joined October 2010
United States330 Posts
March 31 2011 16:52 GMT
#2892
I feel really terrible for Jinro. He shows the way Terran ought be played, but the metagame is just so aggressive.
NYE: when the match loading screen comes up "zvz" it's like finding out you have hiv
Twistacles
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1327 Posts
March 31 2011 16:53 GMT
#2893
TT1 has this. Just play it safe; there's no way you'll lose in the lategame.
"If you don't give a shit which gum you buy, get stride" - Tyler
kapistar
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland17 Posts
March 31 2011 17:00 GMT
#2894
On April 01 2011 00:08 Sein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2011 21:16 PlosionCornu wrote:
On March 31 2011 21:12 OTIX wrote:
No excuses, Jinro just isn't playing well atm. He's not in the right place mentally, needs to find his groove again.


He should probably date the female korean commentator LOL.


Too bad she's over 10 years senior to Jinro and has a husband and a kid.

It shouldn't be a problem to sir Jinro.
pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
March 31 2011 17:03 GMT
#2895
Jinro, what is happening to you recently?
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
March 31 2011 17:06 GMT
#2896
On April 01 2011 01:02 pyro19 wrote:
Protoss players are just ridiculously pulling ahead of the Competiton . I'm waiting for that one spark of Genius or one New Revolutionary Build by the Terran that shifts momentum back to the Terran.

Basically we need a Terran Bisu.


http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=26&part=games&vs=P&league=any&map=any&from_year=2011&from_month=1&from_day=30&to_year=2011&to_month=3&to_day=22&action=Update

also ROFL at the name changes, gd TL.
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
March 31 2011 17:23 GMT
#2897
Jinro is very charismatic; it's easy to pull for him. I thought he was a lock to win too

I still reckon Dimaga could win the whole thing... unless MC makes it to the finals. I think beating him in PvZ is a bit of a tall order right now.

At the minute I'm thinking it's a toss up (har har) between MC, MVP and Dimaga.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
March 31 2011 17:24 GMT
#2898
Jinro's reaction to the loss caught me by surprise. Everyone has outbursts like that in private but, to see it televised was something else. Not saying that he shouldn't of done it, just surprising to witness it. Almost like he had a feeling he would lose going into this match and was extremely pissed off that he couldn't stop that from happening.

Still a lot of potential, don't get off that horse! Jinro Fighting!!!
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
cordlc
Profile Joined November 2010
United States360 Posts
March 31 2011 17:32 GMT
#2899
Supernova's TvP is good, but I don't think it's revolutionary. If Alicia meets up with him again in Code S, I'm confident he'd take him this time, as he seems to know mech's weakness better than anybody (just needs to execute correctly, macro up). Tank / banshee / raven is too immobile, and when split up (for attack & defense) the mobile warpgate units are enough to crush it.

I suppose it can stall into a lategame transition into the speed buffed BC's, though we've never gotten that far... shame there haven't been many quality TvP's in the GSL. Hoping MVP will give us some this tournament
Yunarc
Profile Joined March 2011
United States314 Posts
March 31 2011 17:34 GMT
#2900
Dimaga and TT1 have looked the best out of the foreigners. I think Dimaga has a better chance to win though because TT1 has been sick.
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