• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:56
CEST 23:56
KST 06:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-69SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-64PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)14
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement! Protoss AoE skill expression August World Ranking: Clem climbs to #2 Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Serral wins HomeStory Cup 29
Tourneys
RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 538 Media Blackout The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL22 General Discussion How FlaSh Nearly Forfeited MSL Finals being late Are you ready for ASL 22? NEW HYPE VIDEO BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo 2 thread ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Iain M Banks Says He Has Cancer And Months To Live European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Are High-Level Gamers more A…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3964 users

[TSL] Ro32 Day 4 - Page 412

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 410 411 412 413 414 422 Next
Balance whining will result in a ban
airety
Profile Joined July 2010
United States63 Posts
March 28 2011 03:45 GMT
#8221
Loving the TSL3! Quick question - why not 1080p on the YouTube VODs? Not a major complaint, 720p still looks great!
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 03:50:50
March 28 2011 03:49 GMT
#8222
Disappointed TLO lost. I'm sure he could have taken them, he just was too risky in 2 of the 3 games. I would have only done something that risky in 1 of the games, but not 2.

But, I loved his play and I'm still watching him every chance I get. He understands showmanship like Boxer does. I got the same feeling watching TLO lose as I did Boxer vs. NesTea--sad that he lost, but still so excited about the potential of his great idea.
vitonga
Profile Joined February 2011
United States45 Posts
March 28 2011 03:51 GMT
#8223
it is a computer game tournament and not a dating show.
the gracken played well, but he lost. who cares?

TL KICKING ASS!

greatest SC2 tourney so far, really.
"...but korean imba"-MC
Bruenoran
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3 Posts
March 28 2011 03:54 GMT
#8224
Overall, really exciting games so far...but being a zerg player the results thus far have been slightly disheartening. PvZ is by far my worst match-up so seeing all my fav zerg buddies get rolled by the toss makes me sad...heres to the hope we see some awesome meta-game shifts soon!
Belano
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden657 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 04:07:57
March 28 2011 04:07 GMT
#8225
TSL rocks. Loved the games today and Day9 and DJWheat did a great job casting. It was nice to see Mondragon doing good, and I'm also impressed with Crunchers overall play, and Idras play in game 2 of that series. Too bad Haypro lost, but oh well, still many swedes left in the tournament.

But yeah, nice freewin Idra
Bring back 1 supply roaches.
trikshun
Profile Joined October 2010
United States437 Posts
March 28 2011 04:13 GMT
#8226
Boxer and Nada have a shot at winning this! seeing as half the koreans are gone
theBOOCH
Profile Joined November 2010
United States832 Posts
March 28 2011 04:17 GMT
#8227
Even though Zeerax played really badly, Mondragon game 1 was beautiful.
If all you're offering is Dos Equis, I will stay thirsty thank you very much.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
March 28 2011 04:23 GMT
#8228
On March 28 2011 11:46 Tonic420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 11:00 Zeri wrote:
On March 28 2011 10:39 tdt wrote:
On March 28 2011 10:35 TelesisGQ wrote:
Fuck Idra in his bm ass, I don't see why all these fools worship him.



I don't get it either. Like being rude is cool. Especially when you weigh 80lbs. I call it stupid.




hmm... Its sort of why people love the character House... IdrA doesn't care what people think about him. He says what he thinks with no regard to how people will react, and a lot of people (including me) find that refreshing. Being nice for the sake of niceness is, well, nice...but sort of boring. the fact that idrA doesn't hesitate to call people out when he feels they are being bad or stupid, is actually kind a positive attribute at least to me. It means he has no fall back to people saying "well, at least he's nice and well mannered.." no. IdrA pissing people off and not being nice actually means he HAS to be one of the best out there to back it up, it takes a lot of confidence to do that too. And yea, when he loses it looks 10000% worse than when other people lose because of his "bm." But I find it awesome that he carries himself the way he does.


Ya it's really "refreshing" when someone cries after they lose a game they deserved to lose.


You barely even responded to his post... He didn't focus on complaining after a loss, but instead his overall attitude, and I agree. I am definitely no big fan of IdrA (not a hater either) but I do love that he is a strong player in the scene. He adds a lot more drama and excitement when he does his BM stuff. I see nothing wrong with people enjoying that.

Respecting him, on the other hand, is another story... as well as the specifics of his attitude like being bitter after a loss.

Either way, I was by far the most excited by the Cruncher/IdrA game today.
darkevilxe
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada346 Posts
March 28 2011 04:23 GMT
#8229
Honestly, mondragon only won that because he got lucky.
Zeri
Profile Joined March 2010
United States773 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 04:33:03
March 28 2011 04:32 GMT
#8230
On March 28 2011 12:34 trashcan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 12:03 Zeri wrote:
On March 28 2011 11:46 Tonic420 wrote:
On March 28 2011 11:00 Zeri wrote:
On March 28 2011 10:39 tdt wrote:
On March 28 2011 10:35 TelesisGQ wrote:
Fuck Idra in his bm ass, I don't see why all these fools worship him.



I don't get it either. Like being rude is cool. Especially when you weigh 80lbs. I call it stupid.




hmm... Its sort of why people love the character House... IdrA doesn't care what people think about him. He says what he thinks with no regard to how people will react, and a lot of people (including me) find that refreshing. Being nice for the sake of niceness is, well, nice...but sort of boring. the fact that idrA doesn't hesitate to call people out when he feels they are being bad or stupid, is actually kind a positive attribute at least to me. It means he has no fall back to people saying "well, at least he's nice and well mannered.." no. IdrA pissing people off and not being nice actually means he HAS to be one of the best out there to back it up, it takes a lot of confidence to do that too. And yea, when he loses it looks 10000% worse than when other people lose because of his "bm." But I find it awesome that he carries himself the way he does.


Ya it's really "refreshing" when someone cries after they lose a game they deserved to lose.



Read your what you just said out loud. Really. Now think about your word choice and what you are trying to say.

The release of negative emotion after a tough loss does show passion.


It shows immaturity. Say a few canned words, be polite, get out and let your frustration out in private like a man instead of whining to the whole world like a baby.

I really don't feel anything for Idra except pity these days. He was nothing special in Brood War and he's nothing special now in StarCraft 2 even though he had a decent start. Being rude and bad mannered when you're not the best only makes you look pathetic, not confident or cocky.




Yes, saying a few canned words to appease people and to be sure to not step on anyones toes makes you a man? Way to not respond to the original posts that started this and just the most recent one.
You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
March 28 2011 04:42 GMT
#8231
On March 28 2011 13:23 darkevilxe wrote:
Honestly, mondragon only won that because he got lucky.


funny you write that because in his interview, he talks about how he doesn't have a lot of time to practice and will only win if he gets lucky
Zeri
Profile Joined March 2010
United States773 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 05:07:26
March 28 2011 04:49 GMT
#8232
On March 28 2011 13:42 trifecta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 13:23 darkevilxe wrote:
Honestly, mondragon only won that because he got lucky.


funny you write that because in his interview, he talks about how he doesn't have a lot of time to practice and will only win if he gets lucky



I think darkevilxe was being sarcastic....
You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.
Tipany
Profile Joined November 2010
United States368 Posts
March 28 2011 04:51 GMT
#8233
On March 28 2011 13:49 Zeri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 13:42 trifecta wrote:
On March 28 2011 13:23 darkevilxe wrote:
Honestly, mondragon only won that because he got lucky.


funny you write that because in his interview, he talks about how he doesn't have a lot of time to practice and will only win if he gets lucky



I think he was being sarcastic....

Lol, how would sarcasm even fit into his post? It wouldn't make any sense to be sarcastic when saying that.
wat.
Noreh
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada24 Posts
March 28 2011 04:54 GMT
#8234
On March 28 2011 10:23 -Strider- wrote:
LiquidCruncher!

I hope that day never comes
Niick
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia426 Posts
March 28 2011 04:56 GMT
#8235
On March 28 2011 13:51 TheJoyBringer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 13:49 Zeri wrote:
On March 28 2011 13:42 trifecta wrote:
On March 28 2011 13:23 darkevilxe wrote:
Honestly, mondragon only won that because he got lucky.


funny you write that because in his interview, he talks about how he doesn't have a lot of time to practice and will only win if he gets lucky



I think he was being sarcastic....

Lol, how would sarcasm even fit into his post? It wouldn't make any sense to be sarcastic when saying that.


... it would make lots of sense..

You'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 05:19:22
March 28 2011 04:59 GMT
#8236
On March 28 2011 11:00 Zeri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 10:39 tdt wrote:
On March 28 2011 10:35 TelesisGQ wrote:
Fuck Idra in his bm ass, I don't see why all these fools worship him.



I don't get it either. Like being rude is cool. Especially when you weigh 80lbs. I call it stupid.




hmm... Its sort of why people love the character House... IdrA doesn't care what people think about him. He says what he thinks with no regard to how people will react, and a lot of people (including me) find that refreshing. Being nice for the sake of niceness is, well, nice...but sort of boring. the fact that idrA doesn't hesitate to call people out when he feels they are being bad or stupid, is actually kind a positive attribute at least to me. It means he has no fall back to people saying "well, at least he's nice and well mannered.." no. IdrA pissing people off and not being nice actually means he HAS to be one of the best out there to back it up, it takes a lot of confidence to do that too. And yea, when he loses it looks 10000% worse than when other people lose because of his "bm." But I find it awesome that he carries himself the way he does.

If by refreshing honesty you mean saying things that would ordinarily get a broken jaw in RL... not that honest after all hiding behind intreweb eh? Just think about it. You and others already said he was nice in RL so one persona is manufactured. e.g dishonest.

Edit:I have no problem with confidence. Take MC when he says player x is not that great, but he actually wins. Big difference.
MC for president
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
March 28 2011 05:03 GMT
#8237
On March 28 2011 13:49 Zeri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 13:42 trifecta wrote:
On March 28 2011 13:23 darkevilxe wrote:
Honestly, mondragon only won that because he got lucky.


funny you write that because in his interview, he talks about how he doesn't have a lot of time to practice and will only win if he gets lucky



I think he was being sarcastic....


It's just Mondragon being Mondragon, iNcontroL said that Mondragon says stuff like that all the time before tournaments like "I'm really out of shape and I won't do so well, hopefully I get lucky" and then at the end of the tournament Mondragon has won and is like "I guess I'm still pretty good" this was discussed on an episode of SOTG.
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
March 28 2011 05:04 GMT
#8238
Can someone link me to the interviews? I can't seem to find them
“... you don’t have to be Sun freakin Tzu to know that real fighting isn’t about killing or even hurting the other guy, it’s about scaring him enough to call it a day.” - Max Brooks: World War Z
Zeri
Profile Joined March 2010
United States773 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 05:07:05
March 28 2011 05:06 GMT
#8239
On March 28 2011 14:03 Hierarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 13:49 Zeri wrote:
On March 28 2011 13:42 trifecta wrote:
On March 28 2011 13:23 darkevilxe wrote:
Honestly, mondragon only won that because he got lucky.


funny you write that because in his interview, he talks about how he doesn't have a lot of time to practice and will only win if he gets lucky



I think he was being sarcastic....


It's just Mondragon being Mondragon, iNcontroL said that Mondragon says stuff like that all the time before tournaments like "I'm really out of shape and I won't do so well, hopefully I get lucky" and then at the end of the tournament Mondragon has won and is like "I guess I'm still pretty good" this was discussed on an episode of SOTG.



not mondragon...the guy who said mondragon won because he got lucky....edited to avoid confusion
You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.
RoseTempest
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada196 Posts
March 28 2011 05:15 GMT
#8240
On March 28 2011 13:23 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 11:46 Tonic420 wrote:
On March 28 2011 11:00 Zeri wrote:
On March 28 2011 10:39 tdt wrote:
On March 28 2011 10:35 TelesisGQ wrote:
Fuck Idra in his bm ass, I don't see why all these fools worship him.



I don't get it either. Like being rude is cool. Especially when you weigh 80lbs. I call it stupid.




hmm... Its sort of why people love the character House... IdrA doesn't care what people think about him. He says what he thinks with no regard to how people will react, and a lot of people (including me) find that refreshing. Being nice for the sake of niceness is, well, nice...but sort of boring. the fact that idrA doesn't hesitate to call people out when he feels they are being bad or stupid, is actually kind a positive attribute at least to me. It means he has no fall back to people saying "well, at least he's nice and well mannered.." no. IdrA pissing people off and not being nice actually means he HAS to be one of the best out there to back it up, it takes a lot of confidence to do that too. And yea, when he loses it looks 10000% worse than when other people lose because of his "bm." But I find it awesome that he carries himself the way he does.


Ya it's really "refreshing" when someone cries after they lose a game they deserved to lose.


You barely even responded to his post... He didn't focus on complaining after a loss, but instead his overall attitude, and I agree. I am definitely no big fan of IdrA (not a hater either) but I do love that he is a strong player in the scene. He adds a lot more drama and excitement when he does his BM stuff. I see nothing wrong with people enjoying that.

Respecting him, on the other hand, is another story... as well as the specifics of his attitude like being bitter after a loss.

Either way, I was by far the most excited by the Cruncher/IdrA game today.


People like House because he's the BEST at what he does. He's a cocky, arrogant asshole, but in the end, he's ALWAYS right. Out of... what is it now... 7 seasons? He's been wrong on a total of 2-3 cases. Thats why he has the privilege of being the ass that he is and still maintaining his respect/likeability as a character.

IDRA, however, has done next to nothing to back up his hefty ego. Take MC for example, seems cocky, displays his trashtalk and confidence in a brash manner, but know what? He follows through, he stomps through whoever he says he'll stomp through, and we love him for that.

In the end Idra is just being Idra, from his BW failures to his mediocrity in SC2, he never fails to find something to blame that isn't himself. In SC1, toss was imba, and his opponents were doing dumb things and winning (see for lulz, don't necropost though http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88342 ), and in SC2, every race/strategy that he loses against is a) cheesy b) all-in or c) imbalanced.

However, I love having Idra around because, in the end, he brings something to the community. I love watching him play and reading his interviews because it gives me something to hate. Something to cheer against. It doesn't matter if it's F91 or Silver or Morrow or Cruncher, it brings a flutter to my heart and a tear of happiness to my eye whenever Idra's massive ego is cut down yet another notch, and he's forced to eat his words yet once again.

tl;dr - You can only be cocky like house when you're the uncontested best at something, and Idra is and always will be a whiner/sore loser.
Prev 1 410 411 412 413 414 422 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 12h 4m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech92
SteadfastSC 77
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm121
Counter-Strike
summit1g1489
Fnx 1317
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0232
Mew2King109
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu515
Other Games
Grubby2761
shahzam740
FrodaN372
ToD265
elazer129
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 91
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 13
• Eskiya23 12
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2996
League of Legends
• imaqtpie3304
• Shiphtur541
Other Games
• Scarra1079
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
12h 4m
PiG Sty Festival
14h 4m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 2h
Replay Cast
1d 11h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 13h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Rush vs Hm
Bisu vs Shuttle
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
The Patches Monday
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-09
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
Proleague 2026-08-10
RSL Revival: Season 6
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
META DYMY #4
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.