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airety
Profile Joined July 2010
United States63 Posts
March 28 2011 03:45 GMT
#8221
Loving the TSL3! Quick question - why not 1080p on the YouTube VODs? Not a major complaint, 720p still looks great!
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 03:50:50
March 28 2011 03:49 GMT
#8222
Disappointed TLO lost. I'm sure he could have taken them, he just was too risky in 2 of the 3 games. I would have only done something that risky in 1 of the games, but not 2.

But, I loved his play and I'm still watching him every chance I get. He understands showmanship like Boxer does. I got the same feeling watching TLO lose as I did Boxer vs. NesTea--sad that he lost, but still so excited about the potential of his great idea.
vitonga
Profile Joined February 2011
United States45 Posts
March 28 2011 03:51 GMT
#8223
it is a computer game tournament and not a dating show.
the gracken played well, but he lost. who cares?

TL KICKING ASS!

greatest SC2 tourney so far, really.
"...but korean imba"-MC
Bruenoran
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3 Posts
March 28 2011 03:54 GMT
#8224
Overall, really exciting games so far...but being a zerg player the results thus far have been slightly disheartening. PvZ is by far my worst match-up so seeing all my fav zerg buddies get rolled by the toss makes me sad...heres to the hope we see some awesome meta-game shifts soon!
Belano
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden657 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 04:07:57
March 28 2011 04:07 GMT
#8225
TSL rocks. Loved the games today and Day9 and DJWheat did a great job casting. It was nice to see Mondragon doing good, and I'm also impressed with Crunchers overall play, and Idras play in game 2 of that series. Too bad Haypro lost, but oh well, still many swedes left in the tournament.

But yeah, nice freewin Idra
Bring back 1 supply roaches.
trikshun
Profile Joined October 2010
United States437 Posts
March 28 2011 04:13 GMT
#8226
Boxer and Nada have a shot at winning this! seeing as half the koreans are gone
theBOOCH
Profile Joined November 2010
United States832 Posts
March 28 2011 04:17 GMT
#8227
Even though Zeerax played really badly, Mondragon game 1 was beautiful.
If all you're offering is Dos Equis, I will stay thirsty thank you very much.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
March 28 2011 04:23 GMT
#8228
On March 28 2011 11:46 Tonic420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 11:00 Zeri wrote:
On March 28 2011 10:39 tdt wrote:
On March 28 2011 10:35 TelesisGQ wrote:
Fuck Idra in his bm ass, I don't see why all these fools worship him.



I don't get it either. Like being rude is cool. Especially when you weigh 80lbs. I call it stupid.




hmm... Its sort of why people love the character House... IdrA doesn't care what people think about him. He says what he thinks with no regard to how people will react, and a lot of people (including me) find that refreshing. Being nice for the sake of niceness is, well, nice...but sort of boring. the fact that idrA doesn't hesitate to call people out when he feels they are being bad or stupid, is actually kind a positive attribute at least to me. It means he has no fall back to people saying "well, at least he's nice and well mannered.." no. IdrA pissing people off and not being nice actually means he HAS to be one of the best out there to back it up, it takes a lot of confidence to do that too. And yea, when he loses it looks 10000% worse than when other people lose because of his "bm." But I find it awesome that he carries himself the way he does.


Ya it's really "refreshing" when someone cries after they lose a game they deserved to lose.


You barely even responded to his post... He didn't focus on complaining after a loss, but instead his overall attitude, and I agree. I am definitely no big fan of IdrA (not a hater either) but I do love that he is a strong player in the scene. He adds a lot more drama and excitement when he does his BM stuff. I see nothing wrong with people enjoying that.

Respecting him, on the other hand, is another story... as well as the specifics of his attitude like being bitter after a loss.

Either way, I was by far the most excited by the Cruncher/IdrA game today.
darkevilxe
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada346 Posts
March 28 2011 04:23 GMT
#8229
Honestly, mondragon only won that because he got lucky.
Zeri
Profile Joined March 2010
United States773 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 04:33:03
March 28 2011 04:32 GMT
#8230
On March 28 2011 12:34 trashcan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 12:03 Zeri wrote:
On March 28 2011 11:46 Tonic420 wrote:
On March 28 2011 11:00 Zeri wrote:
On March 28 2011 10:39 tdt wrote:
On March 28 2011 10:35 TelesisGQ wrote:
Fuck Idra in his bm ass, I don't see why all these fools worship him.



I don't get it either. Like being rude is cool. Especially when you weigh 80lbs. I call it stupid.




hmm... Its sort of why people love the character House... IdrA doesn't care what people think about him. He says what he thinks with no regard to how people will react, and a lot of people (including me) find that refreshing. Being nice for the sake of niceness is, well, nice...but sort of boring. the fact that idrA doesn't hesitate to call people out when he feels they are being bad or stupid, is actually kind a positive attribute at least to me. It means he has no fall back to people saying "well, at least he's nice and well mannered.." no. IdrA pissing people off and not being nice actually means he HAS to be one of the best out there to back it up, it takes a lot of confidence to do that too. And yea, when he loses it looks 10000% worse than when other people lose because of his "bm." But I find it awesome that he carries himself the way he does.


Ya it's really "refreshing" when someone cries after they lose a game they deserved to lose.



Read your what you just said out loud. Really. Now think about your word choice and what you are trying to say.

The release of negative emotion after a tough loss does show passion.


It shows immaturity. Say a few canned words, be polite, get out and let your frustration out in private like a man instead of whining to the whole world like a baby.

I really don't feel anything for Idra except pity these days. He was nothing special in Brood War and he's nothing special now in StarCraft 2 even though he had a decent start. Being rude and bad mannered when you're not the best only makes you look pathetic, not confident or cocky.




Yes, saying a few canned words to appease people and to be sure to not step on anyones toes makes you a man? Way to not respond to the original posts that started this and just the most recent one.
You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
March 28 2011 04:42 GMT
#8231
On March 28 2011 13:23 darkevilxe wrote:
Honestly, mondragon only won that because he got lucky.


funny you write that because in his interview, he talks about how he doesn't have a lot of time to practice and will only win if he gets lucky
Zeri
Profile Joined March 2010
United States773 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 05:07:26
March 28 2011 04:49 GMT
#8232
On March 28 2011 13:42 trifecta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 13:23 darkevilxe wrote:
Honestly, mondragon only won that because he got lucky.


funny you write that because in his interview, he talks about how he doesn't have a lot of time to practice and will only win if he gets lucky



I think darkevilxe was being sarcastic....
You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.
Tipany
Profile Joined November 2010
United States368 Posts
March 28 2011 04:51 GMT
#8233
On March 28 2011 13:49 Zeri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 13:42 trifecta wrote:
On March 28 2011 13:23 darkevilxe wrote:
Honestly, mondragon only won that because he got lucky.


funny you write that because in his interview, he talks about how he doesn't have a lot of time to practice and will only win if he gets lucky



I think he was being sarcastic....

Lol, how would sarcasm even fit into his post? It wouldn't make any sense to be sarcastic when saying that.
wat.
Noreh
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada24 Posts
March 28 2011 04:54 GMT
#8234
On March 28 2011 10:23 -Strider- wrote:
LiquidCruncher!

I hope that day never comes
Niick
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia426 Posts
March 28 2011 04:56 GMT
#8235
On March 28 2011 13:51 TheJoyBringer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 13:49 Zeri wrote:
On March 28 2011 13:42 trifecta wrote:
On March 28 2011 13:23 darkevilxe wrote:
Honestly, mondragon only won that because he got lucky.


funny you write that because in his interview, he talks about how he doesn't have a lot of time to practice and will only win if he gets lucky



I think he was being sarcastic....

Lol, how would sarcasm even fit into his post? It wouldn't make any sense to be sarcastic when saying that.


... it would make lots of sense..

You'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 05:19:22
March 28 2011 04:59 GMT
#8236
On March 28 2011 11:00 Zeri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 10:39 tdt wrote:
On March 28 2011 10:35 TelesisGQ wrote:
Fuck Idra in his bm ass, I don't see why all these fools worship him.



I don't get it either. Like being rude is cool. Especially when you weigh 80lbs. I call it stupid.




hmm... Its sort of why people love the character House... IdrA doesn't care what people think about him. He says what he thinks with no regard to how people will react, and a lot of people (including me) find that refreshing. Being nice for the sake of niceness is, well, nice...but sort of boring. the fact that idrA doesn't hesitate to call people out when he feels they are being bad or stupid, is actually kind a positive attribute at least to me. It means he has no fall back to people saying "well, at least he's nice and well mannered.." no. IdrA pissing people off and not being nice actually means he HAS to be one of the best out there to back it up, it takes a lot of confidence to do that too. And yea, when he loses it looks 10000% worse than when other people lose because of his "bm." But I find it awesome that he carries himself the way he does.

If by refreshing honesty you mean saying things that would ordinarily get a broken jaw in RL... not that honest after all hiding behind intreweb eh? Just think about it. You and others already said he was nice in RL so one persona is manufactured. e.g dishonest.

Edit:I have no problem with confidence. Take MC when he says player x is not that great, but he actually wins. Big difference.
MC for president
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
March 28 2011 05:03 GMT
#8237
On March 28 2011 13:49 Zeri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 13:42 trifecta wrote:
On March 28 2011 13:23 darkevilxe wrote:
Honestly, mondragon only won that because he got lucky.


funny you write that because in his interview, he talks about how he doesn't have a lot of time to practice and will only win if he gets lucky



I think he was being sarcastic....


It's just Mondragon being Mondragon, iNcontroL said that Mondragon says stuff like that all the time before tournaments like "I'm really out of shape and I won't do so well, hopefully I get lucky" and then at the end of the tournament Mondragon has won and is like "I guess I'm still pretty good" this was discussed on an episode of SOTG.
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
March 28 2011 05:04 GMT
#8238
Can someone link me to the interviews? I can't seem to find them
“... you don’t have to be Sun freakin Tzu to know that real fighting isn’t about killing or even hurting the other guy, it’s about scaring him enough to call it a day.” - Max Brooks: World War Z
Zeri
Profile Joined March 2010
United States773 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 05:07:05
March 28 2011 05:06 GMT
#8239
On March 28 2011 14:03 Hierarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 13:49 Zeri wrote:
On March 28 2011 13:42 trifecta wrote:
On March 28 2011 13:23 darkevilxe wrote:
Honestly, mondragon only won that because he got lucky.


funny you write that because in his interview, he talks about how he doesn't have a lot of time to practice and will only win if he gets lucky



I think he was being sarcastic....


It's just Mondragon being Mondragon, iNcontroL said that Mondragon says stuff like that all the time before tournaments like "I'm really out of shape and I won't do so well, hopefully I get lucky" and then at the end of the tournament Mondragon has won and is like "I guess I'm still pretty good" this was discussed on an episode of SOTG.



not mondragon...the guy who said mondragon won because he got lucky....edited to avoid confusion
You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.
RoseTempest
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada196 Posts
March 28 2011 05:15 GMT
#8240
On March 28 2011 13:23 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 11:46 Tonic420 wrote:
On March 28 2011 11:00 Zeri wrote:
On March 28 2011 10:39 tdt wrote:
On March 28 2011 10:35 TelesisGQ wrote:
Fuck Idra in his bm ass, I don't see why all these fools worship him.



I don't get it either. Like being rude is cool. Especially when you weigh 80lbs. I call it stupid.




hmm... Its sort of why people love the character House... IdrA doesn't care what people think about him. He says what he thinks with no regard to how people will react, and a lot of people (including me) find that refreshing. Being nice for the sake of niceness is, well, nice...but sort of boring. the fact that idrA doesn't hesitate to call people out when he feels they are being bad or stupid, is actually kind a positive attribute at least to me. It means he has no fall back to people saying "well, at least he's nice and well mannered.." no. IdrA pissing people off and not being nice actually means he HAS to be one of the best out there to back it up, it takes a lot of confidence to do that too. And yea, when he loses it looks 10000% worse than when other people lose because of his "bm." But I find it awesome that he carries himself the way he does.


Ya it's really "refreshing" when someone cries after they lose a game they deserved to lose.


You barely even responded to his post... He didn't focus on complaining after a loss, but instead his overall attitude, and I agree. I am definitely no big fan of IdrA (not a hater either) but I do love that he is a strong player in the scene. He adds a lot more drama and excitement when he does his BM stuff. I see nothing wrong with people enjoying that.

Respecting him, on the other hand, is another story... as well as the specifics of his attitude like being bitter after a loss.

Either way, I was by far the most excited by the Cruncher/IdrA game today.


People like House because he's the BEST at what he does. He's a cocky, arrogant asshole, but in the end, he's ALWAYS right. Out of... what is it now... 7 seasons? He's been wrong on a total of 2-3 cases. Thats why he has the privilege of being the ass that he is and still maintaining his respect/likeability as a character.

IDRA, however, has done next to nothing to back up his hefty ego. Take MC for example, seems cocky, displays his trashtalk and confidence in a brash manner, but know what? He follows through, he stomps through whoever he says he'll stomp through, and we love him for that.

In the end Idra is just being Idra, from his BW failures to his mediocrity in SC2, he never fails to find something to blame that isn't himself. In SC1, toss was imba, and his opponents were doing dumb things and winning (see for lulz, don't necropost though http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88342 ), and in SC2, every race/strategy that he loses against is a) cheesy b) all-in or c) imbalanced.

However, I love having Idra around because, in the end, he brings something to the community. I love watching him play and reading his interviews because it gives me something to hate. Something to cheer against. It doesn't matter if it's F91 or Silver or Morrow or Cruncher, it brings a flutter to my heart and a tear of happiness to my eye whenever Idra's massive ego is cut down yet another notch, and he's forced to eat his words yet once again.

tl;dr - You can only be cocky like house when you're the uncontested best at something, and Idra is and always will be a whiner/sore loser.
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