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On March 28 2011 11:00 Zeri wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 10:39 tdt wrote:On March 28 2011 10:35 TelesisGQ wrote:
Fuck Idra in his bm ass, I don't see why all these fools worship him. I don't get it either. Like being rude is cool. Especially when you weigh 80lbs. I call it stupid. hmm... Its sort of why people love the character House... IdrA doesn't care what people think about him. He says what he thinks with no regard to how people will react, and a lot of people (including me) find that refreshing. Being nice for the sake of niceness is, well, nice...but sort of boring. the fact that idrA doesn't hesitate to call people out when he feels they are being bad or stupid, is actually kind a positive attribute at least to me. It means he has no fall back to people saying "well, at least he's nice and well mannered.." no. IdrA pissing people off and not being nice actually means he HAS to be one of the best out there to back it up, it takes a lot of confidence to do that too. And yea, when he loses it looks 10000% worse than when other people lose because of his "bm." But I find it awesome that he carries himself the way he does.
Ya it's really "refreshing" when someone cries after they lose a game they deserved to lose.
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Just watched Idra v Cruncher, can't believe Idra made 7 drones after Cruncher pushed out. Really expected better decision making from him than that. A few more roaches and he might have held. Disappointing to see him out.
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On March 28 2011 11:46 Tonic420 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 28 2011 11:00 Zeri wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 10:39 tdt wrote:On March 28 2011 10:35 TelesisGQ wrote:
Fuck Idra in his bm ass, I don't see why all these fools worship him. I don't get it either. Like being rude is cool. Especially when you weigh 80lbs. I call it stupid. hmm... Its sort of why people love the character House... IdrA doesn't care what people think about him. He says what he thinks with no regard to how people will react, and a lot of people (including me) find that refreshing. Being nice for the sake of niceness is, well, nice...but sort of boring. the fact that idrA doesn't hesitate to call people out when he feels they are being bad or stupid, is actually kind a positive attribute at least to me. It means he has no fall back to people saying "well, at least he's nice and well mannered.." no. IdrA pissing people off and not being nice actually means he HAS to be one of the best out there to back it up, it takes a lot of confidence to do that too. And yea, when he loses it looks 10000% worse than when other people lose because of his "bm." But I find it awesome that he carries himself the way he does. Ya it's really "refreshing" when someone cries after they lose a game they deserved to lose.
It's completely debatable whether IdrA deserved to lose those games. Of course, you could say that because he lost, he deserved to lose, but that just creates cyclical logic. Judging on Game 2, I would say IdrA has a much higher skill level, or Cruncher had some really bad game, which it didn't seem like he would based on his performance in Game 3.
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Wow i can't believe this round haha! Completely screwed up my bracket competition; I had this sick feeling that Cruncher would win today; after all that smack talking he had it coming.. Must be such an amazing feeling for Cruncher! I could never have bet on Cruncher, but man just sensed it coming..
Complete let down that NaDa and TLO had to meet in the Ro32; both are so amazing, and that one had to go down so early is so annoying.. Was awesome to see TLO pull out the MVP "battlecruisers > all" play.. I just hate to think if he hadn't tried the gimmicky ghost play in the first game if the he would have had a better chance. But then he wouldn't be TLO - the craziest guy around!
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i sooo love cruncher right nowww. SO SO SO happy jeez, that last rage quit from idra was better then sex seriously
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On March 28 2011 11:46 Tonic420 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 11:00 Zeri wrote:On March 28 2011 10:39 tdt wrote:On March 28 2011 10:35 TelesisGQ wrote:
Fuck Idra in his bm ass, I don't see why all these fools worship him. I don't get it either. Like being rude is cool. Especially when you weigh 80lbs. I call it stupid. hmm... Its sort of why people love the character House... IdrA doesn't care what people think about him. He says what he thinks with no regard to how people will react, and a lot of people (including me) find that refreshing. Being nice for the sake of niceness is, well, nice...but sort of boring. the fact that idrA doesn't hesitate to call people out when he feels they are being bad or stupid, is actually kind a positive attribute at least to me. It means he has no fall back to people saying "well, at least he's nice and well mannered.." no. IdrA pissing people off and not being nice actually means he HAS to be one of the best out there to back it up, it takes a lot of confidence to do that too. And yea, when he loses it looks 10000% worse than when other people lose because of his "bm." But I find it awesome that he carries himself the way he does. Ya it's really "refreshing" when someone cries after they lose a game they deserved to lose.
Read your what you just said out loud. Really. Now think about your word choice and what you are trying to say.
The release of negative emotion after a tough loss does show passion.
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On March 28 2011 11:54 Omegalisk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 11:46 Tonic420 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 28 2011 11:00 Zeri wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 10:39 tdt wrote:On March 28 2011 10:35 TelesisGQ wrote:
Fuck Idra in his bm ass, I don't see why all these fools worship him. I don't get it either. Like being rude is cool. Especially when you weigh 80lbs. I call it stupid. hmm... Its sort of why people love the character House... IdrA doesn't care what people think about him. He says what he thinks with no regard to how people will react, and a lot of people (including me) find that refreshing. Being nice for the sake of niceness is, well, nice...but sort of boring. the fact that idrA doesn't hesitate to call people out when he feels they are being bad or stupid, is actually kind a positive attribute at least to me. It means he has no fall back to people saying "well, at least he's nice and well mannered.." no. IdrA pissing people off and not being nice actually means he HAS to be one of the best out there to back it up, it takes a lot of confidence to do that too. And yea, when he loses it looks 10000% worse than when other people lose because of his "bm." But I find it awesome that he carries himself the way he does. Ya it's really "refreshing" when someone cries after they lose a game they deserved to lose. It's completely debatable whether IdrA deserved to lose those games. Of course, you could say that because he lost, he deserved to lose, but that just creates cyclical logic. Judging on Game 2, I would say IdrA has a much higher skill level, or Cruncher had some really bad game, which it didn't seem like he would based on his performance in Game 3.
Ok I'll agree that he does have a higher skill level, there really is no doubt in that. I'm not one to judge his play either as my skill level is much lower, but I believe that in the first game there were probably a lot of opportunities for him to do some major harassment to slow the toss down instead of trying to take every expansion on the map and building a 100/200 army with 100 drones.
P.S I know he didn't have 100 drones but you get my point hopefully. It just seemed like instead of engaging he just let Cruncher build up a 200/200 toss deathball.
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Regardless of opinions on CrunCher, I'm just happy to see IdrA get taken down so hardcore after being such a douche in his interview. (And forever)
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On March 28 2011 11:11 frodoguy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 10:40 ComusLoM wrote:On March 28 2011 10:28 BasilPesto wrote:So did TLO play as terran, and not random? edit: tried searching this thread, 75% of the posts seemingly related to Idra  Yeah TLO race picked terran each match. you serious? cause iirc, its standard tourny rule to stick to one race (T,P,Z,R) and not change for the duration of tourney since players are gonna practice certain matchup for their upcoming match.
The rule in TSL is that you have to inform your opponent what race you're playing for the series, but you can change from series to series.
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On March 28 2011 11:46 Darion wrote:
Here's another fun breakdown of first round results, based on how players got into the TSL:
Top 3 of TSL2: 3-0
Korea invitees: 3-10 (Boxer, Nada and MC being the winners)
TL Open winners: 7-1 (Nightend is the one loser)
TL top 8 qualifying points: 3-5
That is actually quite interesting. Thanks for the breakdown!
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Do they release replays from these matches by any chance?
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On March 28 2011 12:03 Tonic420 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 11:54 Omegalisk wrote:On March 28 2011 11:46 Tonic420 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 28 2011 11:00 Zeri wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 10:39 tdt wrote:On March 28 2011 10:35 TelesisGQ wrote:
Fuck Idra in his bm ass, I don't see why all these fools worship him. I don't get it either. Like being rude is cool. Especially when you weigh 80lbs. I call it stupid. hmm... Its sort of why people love the character House... IdrA doesn't care what people think about him. He says what he thinks with no regard to how people will react, and a lot of people (including me) find that refreshing. Being nice for the sake of niceness is, well, nice...but sort of boring. the fact that idrA doesn't hesitate to call people out when he feels they are being bad or stupid, is actually kind a positive attribute at least to me. It means he has no fall back to people saying "well, at least he's nice and well mannered.." no. IdrA pissing people off and not being nice actually means he HAS to be one of the best out there to back it up, it takes a lot of confidence to do that too. And yea, when he loses it looks 10000% worse than when other people lose because of his "bm." But I find it awesome that he carries himself the way he does. Ya it's really "refreshing" when someone cries after they lose a game they deserved to lose. It's completely debatable whether IdrA deserved to lose those games. Of course, you could say that because he lost, he deserved to lose, but that just creates cyclical logic. Judging on Game 2, I would say IdrA has a much higher skill level, or Cruncher had some really bad game, which it didn't seem like he would based on his performance in Game 3. Ok I'll agree that he does have a higher skill level, there really is no doubt in that. I'm not one to judge his play either as my skill level is much lower, but I believe that in the first game there were probably a lot of opportunities for him to do some major harassment to slow the toss down instead of trying to take every expansion on the map and building a 100/200 army with 100 drones. P.S I know he didn't have 100 drones but you get my point hopefully. It just seemed like instead of engaging he just let Cruncher build up a 200/200 toss deathball.
The way protoss gets 3 bases on Shakuras really inhibits Zerg's ability do do anything about it. Which is why the map is now changed.
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No replays, but VODs should be up tomorrow.
Re: TLO's ghost play, I've seen him have a lot of success with it. If the SCV doesn't just barely see it coming, the bunker doesn't go up and TLO does a *TON* of damage. Or if the opening is tanks rather than banshee, etc., etc. I thought that was fine, but such a late factory/starport in the third game was very risky IMO. That's the only game that disappointed me.
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Holy shit Mondi won! That's awesome, what an absolute hero
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Congratz to Mondragon !
nice play by TLO, respect !
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For the record, I don't think too many people have been saying the IdrA isn't bad mannered, they are simply saying that Cruncher is ALSO bad mannered. Cruncher deserved to win, even if his style was frustrating to watch. IdrA I personally think is the better player but the skill gap at the highest level is never as high as people seem to think. You don't get to the TSL or any of these other tournaments without being a superb player.
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On March 28 2011 11:54 Omegalisk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 11:46 Tonic420 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 28 2011 11:00 Zeri wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 10:39 tdt wrote:On March 28 2011 10:35 TelesisGQ wrote:
Fuck Idra in his bm ass, I don't see why all these fools worship him. I don't get it either. Like being rude is cool. Especially when you weigh 80lbs. I call it stupid. hmm... Its sort of why people love the character House... IdrA doesn't care what people think about him. He says what he thinks with no regard to how people will react, and a lot of people (including me) find that refreshing. Being nice for the sake of niceness is, well, nice...but sort of boring. the fact that idrA doesn't hesitate to call people out when he feels they are being bad or stupid, is actually kind a positive attribute at least to me. It means he has no fall back to people saying "well, at least he's nice and well mannered.." no. IdrA pissing people off and not being nice actually means he HAS to be one of the best out there to back it up, it takes a lot of confidence to do that too. And yea, when he loses it looks 10000% worse than when other people lose because of his "bm." But I find it awesome that he carries himself the way he does. Ya it's really "refreshing" when someone cries after they lose a game they deserved to lose. It's completely debatable whether IdrA deserved to lose those games. Of course, you could say that because he lost, he deserved to lose, but that just creates cyclical logic. Judging on Game 2, I would say IdrA has a much higher skill level, or Cruncher had some really bad game, which it didn't seem like he would based on his performance in Game 3.
That quite possibly is the dumbest thing I've read in this thread thus far. You really are grasping at straws aren't you? Idra made some unfortunate choices. Those choices caused him to lose games one and three. Therefore, he deserved to lose.
"Skill level" is purely subjective. Objective? The outcome.
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On March 28 2011 12:18 n.DieJokes wrote:
Holy shit Mondi won! That's awesome, what an absolute hero
You should definitely watch the VODs.. It went something like;
Okay you build stargate.. I build roaches - gg 
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On March 28 2011 12:03 Zeri wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 11:46 Tonic420 wrote:On March 28 2011 11:00 Zeri wrote:On March 28 2011 10:39 tdt wrote:On March 28 2011 10:35 TelesisGQ wrote:
Fuck Idra in his bm ass, I don't see why all these fools worship him. I don't get it either. Like being rude is cool. Especially when you weigh 80lbs. I call it stupid. hmm... Its sort of why people love the character House... IdrA doesn't care what people think about him. He says what he thinks with no regard to how people will react, and a lot of people (including me) find that refreshing. Being nice for the sake of niceness is, well, nice...but sort of boring. the fact that idrA doesn't hesitate to call people out when he feels they are being bad or stupid, is actually kind a positive attribute at least to me. It means he has no fall back to people saying "well, at least he's nice and well mannered.." no. IdrA pissing people off and not being nice actually means he HAS to be one of the best out there to back it up, it takes a lot of confidence to do that too. And yea, when he loses it looks 10000% worse than when other people lose because of his "bm." But I find it awesome that he carries himself the way he does. Ya it's really "refreshing" when someone cries after they lose a game they deserved to lose. Read your what you just said out loud. Really. Now think about your word choice and what you are trying to say. The release of negative emotion after a tough loss does show passion.
It shows immaturity. Say a few canned words, be polite, get out and let your frustration out in private like a man instead of whining to the whole world like a baby.
I really don't feel anything for Idra except pity these days. He was nothing special in Brood War and he's nothing special now in StarCraft 2 even though he had a decent start. Being rude and bad mannered when you're not the best only makes you look pathetic, not confident or cocky.
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