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On March 24 2011 14:04 palookieblue wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 13:29 Golgotha wrote:On March 24 2011 13:20 palookieblue wrote:
If there reverse happened (Alicia first), then I'd put Losira, and when MMA come's to clean up I'd put in MVP, who'd probably wreck the rest of the SlayerS lineup. Keep in mind you still have Nestea as a backup, who is ridiculously good ZvZ (in case of Curious) and ZvP.
curious? he is the ST guy. You mean Min right? I think Ryung could give MVP a run for his money in a TvT. Ryung took out one of the best macro terrans (TOP). Also, I believe Min has a lot left to show after his early exit against TOP (still a great game though). Alicia and Losira are the X factors. We know MVP and Nestea will be solid and win at least two games. Thus, it will come down to Losira and Alicia taking down some of the top players and getting at least two wins for their respective teams. I wonder who will go first...so strategic! Sorry, you're right, I meant Min! (: SlayerS have a lot more viable options than IM, it seems. Whether they'll be able to exploit this remains to be seen.
Hmm, I wouldn't say that.
I think SlayerS have shown us more viable options than IM.
IM, on the other hand, have simply gone with the plan of "Let's just win this like total bosses" as opposed to giving everyone a fair go this season.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/teams/89_Incredible_Miracle
There are definitely more players on the team beyond those 3. Junwi, Seed, Yongwha and Yoda are all good players. They aren't Losira, Nestea or MVP to be sure, but then again Ryung isn't exactly Boxer or MMA and he still looks scary good.
IM have options, they just haven't used them this season.
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Regardless of a championship or not, this GSTL run for SlayerS is fantastic. They don't have to win it all, they have already won it in their (and their fans') hearts. Even though the odds are against them, they have so much to take away from this.
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On March 24 2011 14:07 ch33psh33p wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 14:04 palookieblue wrote:On March 24 2011 13:29 Golgotha wrote:On March 24 2011 13:20 palookieblue wrote:
If there reverse happened (Alicia first), then I'd put Losira, and when MMA come's to clean up I'd put in MVP, who'd probably wreck the rest of the SlayerS lineup. Keep in mind you still have Nestea as a backup, who is ridiculously good ZvZ (in case of Curious) and ZvP.
curious? he is the ST guy. You mean Min right? I think Ryung could give MVP a run for his money in a TvT. Ryung took out one of the best macro terrans (TOP). Also, I believe Min has a lot left to show after his early exit against TOP (still a great game though). Alicia and Losira are the X factors. We know MVP and Nestea will be solid and win at least two games. Thus, it will come down to Losira and Alicia taking down some of the top players and getting at least two wins for their respective teams. I wonder who will go first...so strategic! Sorry, you're right, I meant Min! (: SlayerS have a lot more viable options than IM, it seems. Whether they'll be able to exploit this remains to be seen. If anything, SlayerS WILL be the team thats able to best exploit its vast lineup of players. We saw how oGs hasn't really figured that out, and gets knocked out both times becuase they couldn't put the proper lineup of players out.
yeh i think putting mc out last is a horrible idea, i mean its good for drama and for story, but strategically its the second worst thing to do (worst would be not playing him at all) - putting him 2nd last or 2nd would be best imo.
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On March 24 2011 13:58 kaisr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 13:27 Steamroller wrote:
wtf u can actually bet this in pinnacle. Ok time to open an account! They have had starcraft matches before? yes they have gsl and tsl... i lost a lot betting on ogs v slayers... thought slayers had probably ~10% chance to win and the line was like 1.2 for ogs
1,2 is really not worth of betting. I quess i could bet a little for Slayers, just to make it more exciting. Can u bet gsl games like round 32 etc, or was it finals only?
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The only way this could be extremely epic is if in the final set Boxer himself plays and wins against IMMVP or IMNesTea.
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On March 24 2011 14:15 Steamroller wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 13:58 kaisr wrote:On March 24 2011 13:27 Steamroller wrote:
wtf u can actually bet this in pinnacle. Ok time to open an account! They have had starcraft matches before? yes they have gsl and tsl... i lost a lot betting on ogs v slayers... thought slayers had probably ~10% chance to win and the line was like 1.2 for ogs 1,2 is really not worth of betting. I quess i could bet a little for Slayers, just to make it more exciting. Can u bet gsl games like round 32 etc, or was it finals only?
uh i only found out when it was finals... but gstl started from the beginning so I would guess that ro32 should be available. Iunno... slayers was a huge surprise. I mean good odds are good odds even if I'm betting on the favorite. It was winners league format, ogs has like 5 solid code S players as well as MC, slayers had 1 in code s and 1 in code a and the rest unknown.... seemed like a solid bet to me they had all the tsl3 games too, but they closed betting tuesday night
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This tie is very interesting from a strategic point of view, assuming that IM won't just simply out class their way to victory and SlayerS will be able to effectively use their sniping players. A lot of this will come down to who they both send in Game 1. I would say that SlayerS have to keep MMA/Ryung in their toolkit for later on IMmvp and Nestea, and therefore maybe SlayerSMin seems like a good first choice to send. Similarly for IM, I think it would be unwise to send Nestea or mvp initially, so I think we might see either Losira or Seed. We saw how well Min played against InCa, but I can't recall if we have seen him in a ZvZ yet, and we are already aware that Losira is pretty strong in all 3 matchups, but his ZvZ is second to only Nestea.
IM's major weakness seems that they heavily rely on IMmvp as their only strong/recognised Terran, so if SlayerS are able to play this into their hands somehow it might be able to turn the tie in their favour.
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On March 24 2011 11:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Hasn't Losira done far more overall? MMA did beat MC (which was obviously clutch), but iirc, Losira has beaten 5 or so players!
MMA managed to defeat both finalists from GSL Mar. (MC and July both!)
Complete baller
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On March 24 2011 14:13 kaisr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 14:07 ch33psh33p wrote:On March 24 2011 14:04 palookieblue wrote:On March 24 2011 13:29 Golgotha wrote:On March 24 2011 13:20 palookieblue wrote:
If there reverse happened (Alicia first), then I'd put Losira, and when MMA come's to clean up I'd put in MVP, who'd probably wreck the rest of the SlayerS lineup. Keep in mind you still have Nestea as a backup, who is ridiculously good ZvZ (in case of Curious) and ZvP.
curious? he is the ST guy. You mean Min right? I think Ryung could give MVP a run for his money in a TvT. Ryung took out one of the best macro terrans (TOP). Also, I believe Min has a lot left to show after his early exit against TOP (still a great game though). Alicia and Losira are the X factors. We know MVP and Nestea will be solid and win at least two games. Thus, it will come down to Losira and Alicia taking down some of the top players and getting at least two wins for their respective teams. I wonder who will go first...so strategic! Sorry, you're right, I meant Min! (: SlayerS have a lot more viable options than IM, it seems. Whether they'll be able to exploit this remains to be seen. If anything, SlayerS WILL be the team thats able to best exploit its vast lineup of players. We saw how oGs hasn't really figured that out, and gets knocked out both times becuase they couldn't put the proper lineup of players out. yeh i think putting mc out last is a horrible idea, i mean its good for drama and for story, but strategically its the second worst thing to do (worst would be not playing him at all) - putting him 2nd last or 2nd would be best imo.
I like that IM have taken it seriously and have come out with strong players every time, show's that they really want to win again, while oGs's decisions were a bit questionable
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I liquibett'd IM I am going to feel so dirty and horrible if slayers wins =/
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On March 24 2011 14:33 SenorChang wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 14:13 kaisr wrote:On March 24 2011 14:07 ch33psh33p wrote:On March 24 2011 14:04 palookieblue wrote:On March 24 2011 13:29 Golgotha wrote:On March 24 2011 13:20 palookieblue wrote:
If there reverse happened (Alicia first), then I'd put Losira, and when MMA come's to clean up I'd put in MVP, who'd probably wreck the rest of the SlayerS lineup. Keep in mind you still have Nestea as a backup, who is ridiculously good ZvZ (in case of Curious) and ZvP.
curious? he is the ST guy. You mean Min right? I think Ryung could give MVP a run for his money in a TvT. Ryung took out one of the best macro terrans (TOP). Also, I believe Min has a lot left to show after his early exit against TOP (still a great game though). Alicia and Losira are the X factors. We know MVP and Nestea will be solid and win at least two games. Thus, it will come down to Losira and Alicia taking down some of the top players and getting at least two wins for their respective teams. I wonder who will go first...so strategic! Sorry, you're right, I meant Min! (: SlayerS have a lot more viable options than IM, it seems. Whether they'll be able to exploit this remains to be seen. If anything, SlayerS WILL be the team thats able to best exploit its vast lineup of players. We saw how oGs hasn't really figured that out, and gets knocked out both times becuase they couldn't put the proper lineup of players out. yeh i think putting mc out last is a horrible idea, i mean its good for drama and for story, but strategically its the second worst thing to do (worst would be not playing him at all) - putting him 2nd last or 2nd would be best imo. I like that IM have taken it seriously and have come out with strong players every time, show's that they really want to win again, while oGs's decisions were a bit questionable
I'm not sure that ogs wasn't taking it seriously... in bw proleague some teams consistently make objectively HORRIBLE decisions and I could never figure out why, even in important games when they were clearly trying to win. Ive just learned to accept that sometimes coaches make retarded decisions for no reason
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Still rooting for slayers! they upped me to 25th on liquidbets totally happy taking the risk on my favorite team and seeing them do so well. So many good players up and coming but it will be a hard fought battle versus losira who is just on fire lately, MVP and nestea... Hopefully we can see more strong players out of slayers!
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I think SlayersCella must get that money $900 cuz he is poor.
But he is rly good very kind and super baller like this kkkkkkkkkkkk.
thx for rooting slayersteam.
Today.. I should bring showking waves for you guys.
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I've never been as excited for any GSL event as I am for tonight. You guys speculating over which players they're gonna send out first is hyping me up like crazy.
Only three and a half hours to go!
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Alicia may be a good allround starter for SlayerS, although may be best to leave him as a sniper for Mvp, but you have to actually win enough games to force Mvp out, as i doubt he'll start again. But might be good mind games to start with Mvp again as Slayers probably won't expect it either.
Ideally you want MMA to be in against LosirA/Nestea as he's so good against Zerg, but he's good at TvP and TvT as well. Also GanZi is really good against Zerg as well, so SlayerS definitely have a shot if all goes well for them!
Will be fascinating to see what happens! Will Boxer play if the team is in trouble and needs a miracle? I doubt it but it'd be awesome to see!
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The only thing I don't like for the finals is that we probably won't see BM / ceremony. These two teams are pretty mannered. I hope we see a really close match between the teams.
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On March 24 2011 13:25 Zeiryuu wrote:If SlayerS win this GSTL then Boxer's new documentary episode will be full of drama. 
Oh my gosh I forgot about that documentary, the first part of it was brilliant! What's happening with it now? And has the next part been translated yet?
Oh and Slayers team hwaiting! :D
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I think SlayersCella must get that money $900 cuz he is poor.
But he is rly good very kind and super baller like this kkkkkkkkkkkk.
thx for rooting slayersteam.
Today.. I should bring showking waves for you guys.
Cella needs moneyyyy!!!!
Boxer vs Nestea finals SCV-ALL-IN (or something even more epic) 5-4 win please :D
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I want SlayerS to win, just to upset the balanced order, it's gonna take a lot of stuff coming together to make that happen, so we'll see, but IM definitely isn't "unbeatable".
Also, SlayerS really needs to recruit Check...just for the hell of it.
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On March 24 2011 14:36 kaisr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 14:33 SenorChang wrote:On March 24 2011 14:13 kaisr wrote:On March 24 2011 14:07 ch33psh33p wrote:On March 24 2011 14:04 palookieblue wrote:On March 24 2011 13:29 Golgotha wrote:On March 24 2011 13:20 palookieblue wrote:
If there reverse happened (Alicia first), then I'd put Losira, and when MMA come's to clean up I'd put in MVP, who'd probably wreck the rest of the SlayerS lineup. Keep in mind you still have Nestea as a backup, who is ridiculously good ZvZ (in case of Curious) and ZvP.
curious? he is the ST guy. You mean Min right? I think Ryung could give MVP a run for his money in a TvT. Ryung took out one of the best macro terrans (TOP). Also, I believe Min has a lot left to show after his early exit against TOP (still a great game though). Alicia and Losira are the X factors. We know MVP and Nestea will be solid and win at least two games. Thus, it will come down to Losira and Alicia taking down some of the top players and getting at least two wins for their respective teams. I wonder who will go first...so strategic! Sorry, you're right, I meant Min! (: SlayerS have a lot more viable options than IM, it seems. Whether they'll be able to exploit this remains to be seen. If anything, SlayerS WILL be the team thats able to best exploit its vast lineup of players. We saw how oGs hasn't really figured that out, and gets knocked out both times becuase they couldn't put the proper lineup of players out. yeh i think putting mc out last is a horrible idea, i mean its good for drama and for story, but strategically its the second worst thing to do (worst would be not playing him at all) - putting him 2nd last or 2nd would be best imo. I like that IM have taken it seriously and have come out with strong players every time, show's that they really want to win again, while oGs's decisions were a bit questionable I'm not sure that ogs wasn't taking it seriously... in bw proleague some teams consistently make objectively HORRIBLE decisions and I could never figure out why, even in important games when they were clearly trying to win. Ive just learned to accept that sometimes coaches make retarded decisions for no reason
The thing is, some players practice differently to how they play in front of a live stream/pressure. You won't know until you put them out there, so maybe some of those guys are beasts in practice. I mean ST_Curious was a bizarre decision in the last 2 days, but they hyped him up in the interview videos saying that his ZvT was brilliant.
oGs beats SlayerS (as does Startale) 9 times out of 10 with proper decision making though. However, SlayerS cannot be underestimated as some of these Code B guys are really quite gosu.
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