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On March 16 2011 06:34 GP wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 06:31 chonkyfire wrote:On March 16 2011 06:27 Pokebunny wrote:
I much prefer to watch MLG than GSL. I think that's a valid comparison. weird. MLG is a joke compared to the GSL. The entire MLG format is just stupid beyond belief I definitely wouldn't call MLG a joke, but I much prefer GSL as a spectator.
i would
last season the number 1 complaint (beyond seating) was "this isnt halo"
so for season 2? lets make the bracket more like halo
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On March 16 2011 07:19 Trezeguet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 07:13 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Why isn't the StarTale applications in the front page, I didn't even know about it until a friend pointed it out to me. Lazy OP? Laziest guy in the world, look at the crap, how unorganized it is. Kid should be ashamed, you are right. Didn't say he should be ashamed of himself, just a bit lazy for my liking for a important thread like this.
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It's so funny that when TLO was talking about ActionJesus it sounded like ActionCheezes because of native tounge. Or well... maybe thats his real name :D
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I wonder if we'll be seeing some Prime team videos considering it looks like the Prime manager posted Check, Hongun, and Marine King on the voting site.
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On March 16 2011 07:13 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Why isn't the StarTale applications in the front page, I didn't even know about it until a friend pointed it out to me. Lazy OP?
There are A LOT of videos missing from the OP.
Someone made an awesome post on page 51 and has even updated it since then.
Now if some mod would just edit that into the OP that would be super 
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On March 16 2011 07:45 Kamais_Ookin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 07:19 Trezeguet wrote:On March 16 2011 07:13 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Why isn't the StarTale applications in the front page, I didn't even know about it until a friend pointed it out to me. Lazy OP? Laziest guy in the world, look at the crap, how unorganized it is. Kid should be ashamed, you are right. Didn't say he should be ashamed of himself, just a bit lazy for my liking for a important thread like this.
I guess I was just being sarcastic. I bet when he started the thread he didn't think it all the way through how much work it would be to keep it up and organized? Anyway, Mods could help out I guess.
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Idra's application is hilarious. Blatantly cannot be arsed. 'I'm really good. I should be in the league.' 'Well that was my application video. Pretty boring. Watch my games, they're much better than this.'
Never change Idra.
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On March 16 2011 08:45 Vorenius wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 07:13 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Why isn't the StarTale applications in the front page, I didn't even know about it until a friend pointed it out to me. Lazy OP? There are A LOT of videos missing from the OP. Someone made an awesome post on page 51 and has even updated it since then. Now if some mod would just edit that into the OP that would be super
Thanks. That list of videos on page 51 would be my post. The OP is basically the version I made like 24 hours ago. Maybe the OP/mod can put a link to my post on page 51 on the main page of the thread so that people can go to that if the first post isn't updated. I'll obviously be a bit behind on updating it when I'm asleep but other than that I'll keep it up to date.:D Only serious application videos though. So no trolling Brother Mack video applying to NASL.
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On March 16 2011 07:13 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Why isn't the StarTale applications in the front page, I didn't even know about it until a friend pointed it out to me. Lazy OP?
Yeah that`s sad. Ace fighting at the end of his application was epic. I though that Virus, Bomber and Squirtle`s english was pretty good. Though, Rainbow`s english was hilarious. He putted u's and Koreanglish variation of every words possible lol.
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On March 16 2011 09:11 JackhammerIV wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 08:45 Vorenius wrote:On March 16 2011 07:13 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Why isn't the StarTale applications in the front page, I didn't even know about it until a friend pointed it out to me. Lazy OP? There are A LOT of videos missing from the OP. Someone made an awesome post on page 51 and has even updated it since then. Now if some mod would just edit that into the OP that would be super Thanks. That list of videos on page 51 would be my post. The OP is basically the version I made like 24 hours ago. Maybe the OP/mod can put a link to my post on page 51 on the main page of the thread so that people can go to that if the first post isn't updated. I'll obviously be a bit behind on updating it when I'm asleep but other than that I'll keep it up to date.:D Only serious application videos though. So no trolling Brother Mack video applying to NASL. That sounds like a good idea, thanks for your work.
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On March 16 2011 07:06 DiaBoLuS wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 05:36 meRz wrote:This all really boils down to that the anti-koreans are shitting in their pants thinking about koreans coming in because they feel they are simply too good and cannot beat them. Why this attitude? Let them come! I'd love to play vs the top koreans, I don't care if they're in it to "steal my money", I really don't want the whole BW-attitude back again where it's the "newbie foreigners" doing their own thing while korea is the real deal and lightyears ahead of everyone else. We have all the means necessary (NASL!! Big teams, sponsors, players devoting all their time to this game) what says we cannot compete with the koreans? I feel like people have already "given up" on competing against the koreans, and it makes me really sad  . the problem is: if you allow all koreans to attend, you would never be able to play them. no offense to you, but its simply true.
At the time, probably no. In long term? Hopefully yes. What's your point?
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Xlord = Most baller application video LOL
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I can't stop staring at Tyler's chest...
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On March 16 2011 08:59 Jukebox Joe wrote:
Idra's application is hilarious. Blatantly cannot be arsed. 'I'm really good. I should be in the league.' 'Well that was my application video. Pretty boring. Watch my games, they're much better than this.'
Never change Idra.
Yeah, that plus when he say: "We lost the Star Wars against the chinese because they heard the commentators", like it was a normal, everyday thing.
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loool qxc. You need techno music playing in the background of your first vid
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After much searching on the internet, rewatching of videos and the use of a partially complete list from...
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/North_American_Star_League/Applications
I have updated my post on page 51 with each player having their race icon next to their names. I've identified the teams as best I can. A lot of teams don't update their member lists/give info about the races their members play. PM me if i made any mistakes but as far as i can tell it seems alright now.
EDIT: Just to be clear I didn't edit/create the wiki entry nor did I copy it completely without confirming though team websites, google and/or the video itself if possible.
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On March 16 2011 06:36 deerpark87 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 05:48 Pokebunny wrote:On March 16 2011 05:45 dtz wrote:On March 16 2011 05:41 Pokebunny wrote:On March 16 2011 05:36 Kazeyonoma wrote:On March 16 2011 05:32 Pokebunny wrote:On March 16 2011 04:41 rlagksquf wrote:On March 15 2011 23:48 Pokebunny wrote:On March 15 2011 21:48 Nimic wrote:
I'm loving the argument that the Koreans shouldn't be let in because they haven't been involved in the foreigner scene much. For one thing, they sort of have, lately. Dreamhack, IEM, FXOpen(i)s, etc. It's got to start somewhere. And therein lies the second point. There's a logical disconnect somewhere in denying someone the chance to be involved in the foreigner scene because they haven't been a part of the foreigner scene.
You can laugh all you will at their minute-or-less videos (the "jibberish" comment from the Nrg fellow I have never heard of was particularly classy), but this shows that they want to be part of our scene. Is it because of money? Who cares if it is? For one thing it probably isn't, not completely. I'm sure they are like any other people, and would love the chance to travel to different places and compete, perhaps gaining a ton of fans you didn't even know where there in the process. And it's not like Foreigner pro-gamers don't care about money.
I think that if the NASL organizers restricted Korean entries into the league too much, it would betray their stated goal. Namely to have the worlds best players competing. Obviously there should be some sort of restriction, so that all of the players aren't Korean (though I have my doubts that that many Koreans would even try to get in), but we need a fair few Koreans for this to be legitimate.
Sure, a Korean could end up winning the first few seasons. Or Idra could. Or Ret. Or WhiteRA. Either way, can you imagine the publicity the NASL would get in the SC2 community, or even the gaming community in general, the first time a foreigner beat a fairly known Korean? It would make it all worth it. ?? You saw July's video, they read these off a piece of paper probably prepared by a manager. Their videos are more of a turn-off to me than anything, as it shows they can't even communicate properly during the event. They don't want to be a part of the scene, they just want to win the cash with as little effort given as possible. Bashing NrG's manager who has grown the team for six years for a valid comment is also particularly classy. As little effort given as possible? GTFO kid. NASL seriously need to put some age restriction They can't possibly give less effort than reading a 1 min statement in a manner impossible to understand. At least practice a couple times to get it to be understandable. I doubt they purposefully did it that way, this isn't their native language, yet they tried. They could've just stood there, spoke in korean, and had text float across instead, but they opted to try to speak english as best they could to try to appease americans and hopefully their foreigner fans. It's kind of shitty that you're attacking their lack of english speaking ability as some sort of barrier for them to enter. What if GSL required you to submit korean applications, we'd be outraged, and i doubt they'd call any foreigner to WHO TRIED their best "giving low effort". I'm not screaming bloody racism or anything, i just don't see this as a reason to outright deny them. I didn't realize NASL application VODs were based on how witty or silly you can make it to get in. If that's the case I guess a lot of the straight up videos don't get in either, like TLO or SeleCT I think it would be fantastic if GSL required you to learn some korean. I don't want every kid who thinks he's half decent going to korea. Come on.. now you are just grasping at straws.. But in case you are really trying to make a valid argument, half decent in what? in starcraft or in korean language? Do you think it was rude for the TL guys to go and qualify for GSL despite not being able to speak Korean. Same with iNcontrol, Kiwikaki, Moonglade, Spades, etc. Do you think they were trying to get GSL bucks and fame without learning the language and thus they are putting minimal effort and thus it was rude? Yep. The people who just go for a week to try and qualify I think is dumb. VTSpade and bunch of other VTs who i don't recall try to quality for Code A and fail. So you think your teammates are dumb too?
I didn't think it was smart for spades to go to Korea (he was the only one, fyi.)
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On March 16 2011 11:07 Pokebunny wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 06:36 deerpark87 wrote:On March 16 2011 05:48 Pokebunny wrote:On March 16 2011 05:45 dtz wrote:On March 16 2011 05:41 Pokebunny wrote:On March 16 2011 05:36 Kazeyonoma wrote:On March 16 2011 05:32 Pokebunny wrote:On March 16 2011 04:41 rlagksquf wrote:On March 15 2011 23:48 Pokebunny wrote:On March 15 2011 21:48 Nimic wrote:
I'm loving the argument that the Koreans shouldn't be let in because they haven't been involved in the foreigner scene much. For one thing, they sort of have, lately. Dreamhack, IEM, FXOpen(i)s, etc. It's got to start somewhere. And therein lies the second point. There's a logical disconnect somewhere in denying someone the chance to be involved in the foreigner scene because they haven't been a part of the foreigner scene.
You can laugh all you will at their minute-or-less videos (the "jibberish" comment from the Nrg fellow I have never heard of was particularly classy), but this shows that they want to be part of our scene. Is it because of money? Who cares if it is? For one thing it probably isn't, not completely. I'm sure they are like any other people, and would love the chance to travel to different places and compete, perhaps gaining a ton of fans you didn't even know where there in the process. And it's not like Foreigner pro-gamers don't care about money.
I think that if the NASL organizers restricted Korean entries into the league too much, it would betray their stated goal. Namely to have the worlds best players competing. Obviously there should be some sort of restriction, so that all of the players aren't Korean (though I have my doubts that that many Koreans would even try to get in), but we need a fair few Koreans for this to be legitimate.
Sure, a Korean could end up winning the first few seasons. Or Idra could. Or Ret. Or WhiteRA. Either way, can you imagine the publicity the NASL would get in the SC2 community, or even the gaming community in general, the first time a foreigner beat a fairly known Korean? It would make it all worth it. ?? You saw July's video, they read these off a piece of paper probably prepared by a manager. Their videos are more of a turn-off to me than anything, as it shows they can't even communicate properly during the event. They don't want to be a part of the scene, they just want to win the cash with as little effort given as possible. Bashing NrG's manager who has grown the team for six years for a valid comment is also particularly classy. As little effort given as possible? GTFO kid. NASL seriously need to put some age restriction They can't possibly give less effort than reading a 1 min statement in a manner impossible to understand. At least practice a couple times to get it to be understandable. I doubt they purposefully did it that way, this isn't their native language, yet they tried. They could've just stood there, spoke in korean, and had text float across instead, but they opted to try to speak english as best they could to try to appease americans and hopefully their foreigner fans. It's kind of shitty that you're attacking their lack of english speaking ability as some sort of barrier for them to enter. What if GSL required you to submit korean applications, we'd be outraged, and i doubt they'd call any foreigner to WHO TRIED their best "giving low effort". I'm not screaming bloody racism or anything, i just don't see this as a reason to outright deny them. I didn't realize NASL application VODs were based on how witty or silly you can make it to get in. If that's the case I guess a lot of the straight up videos don't get in either, like TLO or SeleCT I think it would be fantastic if GSL required you to learn some korean. I don't want every kid who thinks he's half decent going to korea. Come on.. now you are just grasping at straws.. But in case you are really trying to make a valid argument, half decent in what? in starcraft or in korean language? Do you think it was rude for the TL guys to go and qualify for GSL despite not being able to speak Korean. Same with iNcontrol, Kiwikaki, Moonglade, Spades, etc. Do you think they were trying to get GSL bucks and fame without learning the language and thus they are putting minimal effort and thus it was rude? Yep. The people who just go for a week to try and qualify I think is dumb. VTSpade and bunch of other VTs who i don't recall try to quality for Code A and fail. So you think your teammates are dumb too? I didn't think it was smart for spades to go to Korea (he was the only one, fyi.)
Poor Laneir
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Why don't you guys just wait and see what the NASL itself decides?
Everyone understands the fundamental argument already. They can make the decision that sponsors aren't looking for the highest caliber of SC2, but they're looking for a way to market the sport in the US. That's still valid. They can make the decision that they want to try the best of both worlds. They can make the decision that they want to try to somehow out-do TSL3 and get an even crazier lineup. Not possible, but they could try.
It is obviously their money to do whatever they want with. I highly doubt there's going to be some golden flash of light that shines out from this thread and illuminates the minds of everyone at NASL after all this time. They've probably worked out their strategy before they decided to spend $100,000 on this tournament.
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