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TazzDingo
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany502 Posts
March 26 2011 03:16 GMT
#901
On March 26 2011 12:12 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 12:08 IdrA wrote:
On March 26 2011 12:06 Swixi wrote:
On March 26 2011 11:57 DiaBoLuS wrote:
IdrA, GSL code S and best foreigner losing 2-0 vs strelok - playing from NA. how can a code s player without lag even lose maps?

Did you even watch those games?

no hes right i was massively outplayed
he didnt choose zerg
those fundamental mistakes keep getting to me

This was funny like 3 months ago. Now its only boring.

Funnier than the lag-conspiracy talk actually :/.
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
March 26 2011 03:16 GMT
#902
i stop watching.

with 1.5 secs, you couldnt even micro a ling around the tossbase or place a forcefield.
it is def. not even 0.5 secs - omg i cannot belive you trust in "a friend of mine said that".
when i have lag i also say "3 secs i cannot move" asap


you guys rly take off the fun by talking about lags only.
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
Namu
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 03:18:03
March 26 2011 03:17 GMT
#903
On March 26 2011 12:12 DiaBoLuS wrote:
its 4 am in europe - if europeans lose games, this will be the reason!

Kor > EU > NA should be a clear fact now, with small skillgaps, no huge deal.


you guys rly believe in 1.5 secs?

how can the koreans even put a single forcefield or micro lings around bases?
it is def. not even 0.5 secs - omg i cannot belive you trust in "a friend of mine said that".

when i have lag i also say "3 secs i cannot move" asap


When I play on the korean server, the lag is close to 1.5 sec.
I wouldn't be surprised if they're actually getting 1+ seconds of latency...
and Boxer also mentioned the latency was really really bad for TSL, at least a full second.
I don't know about you but I give more credit to boxer than "a friend of mine"

Not saying the koreans lost cause of latency, etc, but just putting it out there
that 1.5 seconds isn't far fetched at all
Trig
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom64 Posts
March 26 2011 03:17 GMT
#904
On March 26 2011 12:12 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 12:08 IdrA wrote:
On March 26 2011 12:06 Swixi wrote:
On March 26 2011 11:57 DiaBoLuS wrote:
IdrA, GSL code S and best foreigner losing 2-0 vs strelok - playing from NA. how can a code s player without lag even lose maps?

Did you even watch those games?

no hes right i was massively outplayed
he didnt choose zerg
those fundamental mistakes keep getting to me

This was funny like 3 months ago. Now its only boring.


No, it's still funny.
I am your father, Luke.
Vathus
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada404 Posts
March 26 2011 03:17 GMT
#905
Idra vs F91!!!!!!
Hunterai
Profile Joined October 2010
Thailand842 Posts
March 26 2011 03:18 GMT
#906
On March 26 2011 12:10 haylmfao wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 12:08 Hunterai wrote:
On March 26 2011 11:03 Azarkon wrote:
On March 26 2011 11:02 motbob wrote:
I don't want to alarm anyone.

But if Idra and F91 both win, they face each other.


Grudge match inc? Must cast.


What's the story on this one?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88342


OMFG, now I want to see IdrA vs F91. Make it happen!!!
GP
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1056 Posts
March 26 2011 03:18 GMT
#907
On March 26 2011 12:17 Trig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 12:12 Redox wrote:
On March 26 2011 12:08 IdrA wrote:
On March 26 2011 12:06 Swixi wrote:
On March 26 2011 11:57 DiaBoLuS wrote:
IdrA, GSL code S and best foreigner losing 2-0 vs strelok - playing from NA. how can a code s player without lag even lose maps?

Did you even watch those games?

no hes right i was massively outplayed
he didnt choose zerg
those fundamental mistakes keep getting to me

This was funny like 3 months ago. Now its only boring.


No, it's still funny.

I guess if you like that sort of whiny humor--different strokes I guess.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 03:22:07
March 26 2011 03:19 GMT
#908
On March 26 2011 12:14 ttomelle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 12:13 zerious wrote:
haa I'm afraid for MVP and Nestea in tomorrow's TSL3 match up.


ye thorzain sucked.the euros are so bad
XD


Where do you read that in his comment?

Also.. Am I the only one who facepalmes whenever seeing "XD" smileys? :/



On March 26 2011 12:12 DiaBoLuS wrote:
its 4 am in europe - if europeans lose games, this will be the reason!

Kor > EU > NA should be a clear fact now, with small skillgaps, no huge deal.


you guys rly believe in 1.5 secs?

how can the koreans even put a single forcefield or micro lings around bases?
it is def. not even 0.5 secs - omg i cannot belive you trust in "a friend of mine said that".

when i have lag i also say "3 secs i cannot move" asap



sure it's probably exaggerated, but any delay is a huge handicap in online gaming and it's definately impacting the korean players more when playing on the NA server than europeans
Kevmeister @ Dota2
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
March 26 2011 03:19 GMT
#909
On March 26 2011 12:17 Namu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 12:12 DiaBoLuS wrote:
its 4 am in europe - if europeans lose games, this will be the reason!

Kor > EU > NA should be a clear fact now, with small skillgaps, no huge deal.


you guys rly believe in 1.5 secs?

how can the koreans even put a single forcefield or micro lings around bases?
it is def. not even 0.5 secs - omg i cannot belive you trust in "a friend of mine said that".

when i have lag i also say "3 secs i cannot move" asap


When I play on the korean server, the lag is close to 1.5 sec.
I wouldn't be surprised if they're actually getting 1+ seconds of latency...
and Boxer also mentioned the latency was really really bad for TSL, at least a full second.
I don't know about you but I give more credit to boxer than "a friend of mine"


it wasnt boxer who said it, it was his gf

but just watching the games tells a different story. stalker attacks a ling on hold position. 0.3 secs later the ling moves.

how is that possible with 1 sec latency... do you guys even know how much a second is in a RTS?^^
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
March 26 2011 03:19 GMT
#910
So it seems "accidentally" we will not watch IdrA vs F91.
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
March 26 2011 03:20 GMT
#911
On March 26 2011 12:17 Namu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 12:12 DiaBoLuS wrote:
its 4 am in europe - if europeans lose games, this will be the reason!

Kor > EU > NA should be a clear fact now, with small skillgaps, no huge deal.


you guys rly believe in 1.5 secs?

how can the koreans even put a single forcefield or micro lings around bases?
it is def. not even 0.5 secs - omg i cannot belive you trust in "a friend of mine said that".

when i have lag i also say "3 secs i cannot move" asap


When I play on the korean server, the lag is close to 1.5 sec.
I wouldn't be surprised if they're actually getting 1+ seconds of latency...
and Boxer also mentioned the latency was really really bad for TSL, at least a full second.
I don't know about you but I give more credit to boxer than "a friend of mine"

Not saying the koreans lost cause of latency, etc, but just putting it out there
that 1.5 seconds isn't far fetched at all


Have you played recently? It was okay before, but Boxer's girlfriend mentioned that the earthquake in Japan made the connection to the US a lot worse.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 03:20:47
March 26 2011 03:20 GMT
#912
On March 26 2011 12:16 TazzDingo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 12:12 Redox wrote:
On March 26 2011 12:08 IdrA wrote:
On March 26 2011 12:06 Swixi wrote:
On March 26 2011 11:57 DiaBoLuS wrote:
IdrA, GSL code S and best foreigner losing 2-0 vs strelok - playing from NA. how can a code s player without lag even lose maps?

Did you even watch those games?

no hes right i was massively outplayed
he didnt choose zerg
those fundamental mistakes keep getting to me

This was funny like 3 months ago. Now its only boring.

Funnier than the lag-conspiracy talk actually :/.


Don't see why it's a conspiracy. A Root member came out and pretty much said exactly how things are. The lag might not be 1.5 seconds, but KR lag is definitely worse than EU lag, bad enough that MC decided to go VR Colossus against Ciara so he wouldn't have to micro.
Trig
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom64 Posts
March 26 2011 03:20 GMT
#913
On March 26 2011 12:18 GP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 12:17 Trig wrote:
On March 26 2011 12:12 Redox wrote:
On March 26 2011 12:08 IdrA wrote:
On March 26 2011 12:06 Swixi wrote:
On March 26 2011 11:57 DiaBoLuS wrote:
IdrA, GSL code S and best foreigner losing 2-0 vs strelok - playing from NA. how can a code s player without lag even lose maps?

Did you even watch those games?

no hes right i was massively outplayed
he didnt choose zerg
those fundamental mistakes keep getting to me

This was funny like 3 months ago. Now its only boring.


No, it's still funny.

I guess if you like that sort of whiny humor--different strokes I guess.


I don't think it's whiny, he's just being blunt. I haven't watched the games though.
I am your father, Luke.
Swixi
Profile Joined August 2010
United States73 Posts
March 26 2011 03:20 GMT
#914
On March 26 2011 12:16 GP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 12:08 IdrA wrote:
On March 26 2011 12:06 Swixi wrote:
On March 26 2011 11:57 DiaBoLuS wrote:
IdrA, GSL code S and best foreigner losing 2-0 vs strelok - playing from NA. how can a code s player without lag even lose maps?

Did you even watch those games?

no hes right i was massively outplayed
he didnt choose zerg
those fundamental mistakes keep getting to me

Really? Yawn.

Strelok's a solid player and I can't wait to see the replays, I don't dout he outplayed Idra in this series.

The replays are already out. The first game, Strelok just sieges outside of IdrA's main on Metal (close air positions) and builds mass marines. He did the same thing against Check. The second game, IdrA gets in the lead quite a bit in army, income, and harvestors, but loses again to a mass marine-tank death push.

Obviously Strelok won, but IdrA outplayed? I don't think so. Like motbob said, the series highlighted how fragile TvZ is.
ROOTDdoRo
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada134 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 03:22:33
March 26 2011 03:21 GMT
#915
On March 26 2011 12:16 DiaBoLuS wrote:
i stop watching.

with 1.5 secs, you couldnt even micro a ling around the tossbase or place a forcefield.
it is def. not even 0.5 secs - omg i cannot belive you trust in "a friend of mine said that".
when i have lag i also say "3 secs i cannot move" asap


you guys rly take off the fun by talking about lags only.




you have no idea what you're talking about.
not even 0.5 secs?? lol
even I have more than 0.5 sec delay playing on NA->KR
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
March 26 2011 03:22 GMT
#916
Guys you are talking about delay in seconds.... Let me put it into perspective.

When I was in Korea, ping to NA was 310-410 ms.

Accordingly to someone close to me in korea, since the japan earthquake its now almost double that.

I dont know what the seconds delay or whatever would be... I guess it would depend. But i'd say it effects those micro based players.
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
March 26 2011 03:22 GMT
#917
On March 26 2011 12:21 DdoRo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 12:16 DiaBoLuS wrote:
i stop watching.

with 1.5 secs, you couldnt even micro a ling around the tossbase or place a forcefield.
it is def. not even 0.5 secs - omg i cannot belive you trust in "a friend of mine said that".
when i have lag i also say "3 secs i cannot move" asap


you guys rly take off the fun by talking about lags only.




YOU HAVE NO IDEA what you're talking about.
not even 0.5 secs?? lol
even I have more than 0.5 sec delay playing on NA->KR


watch zenios game for instance.
his reaction time is top notch as well as his micro with move shotting etc.
they certainly have delay, but not as bad as everyone makes it out to be
wat
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
March 26 2011 03:22 GMT
#918
On March 26 2011 12:19 whiterabbit wrote:
So it seems "accidentally" we will not watch IdrA vs F91.


How can they not tell an admin beforehand to get in the game and tell them to wait for the casters. I love this tourney but, it seems they could at least improve upon this area. Just have one person dedicated on getting the next match. Not pissed just a little frustrated.

Other than that great tournament with awesome participants.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
March 26 2011 03:22 GMT
#919
On March 26 2011 12:20 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 12:16 TazzDingo wrote:
On March 26 2011 12:12 Redox wrote:
On March 26 2011 12:08 IdrA wrote:
On March 26 2011 12:06 Swixi wrote:
On March 26 2011 11:57 DiaBoLuS wrote:
IdrA, GSL code S and best foreigner losing 2-0 vs strelok - playing from NA. how can a code s player without lag even lose maps?

Did you even watch those games?

no hes right i was massively outplayed
he didnt choose zerg
those fundamental mistakes keep getting to me

This was funny like 3 months ago. Now its only boring.

Funnier than the lag-conspiracy talk actually :/.


Don't see why it's a conspiracy. A Root member came out and pretty much said exactly how things are. The lag might not be 1.5 seconds, but KR lag is definitely worse than EU lag, bad enough that MC decided to go VR Colossus against Ciara so he wouldn't have to micro.



no1 doubts that.
VR colossus cause of lag? i lol.

still: how is it possible to asap move hold position lings when attacked. i dont get it.
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
GP
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1056 Posts
March 26 2011 03:23 GMT
#920
On March 26 2011 12:20 Trig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 12:18 GP wrote:
On March 26 2011 12:17 Trig wrote:
On March 26 2011 12:12 Redox wrote:
On March 26 2011 12:08 IdrA wrote:
On March 26 2011 12:06 Swixi wrote:
On March 26 2011 11:57 DiaBoLuS wrote:
IdrA, GSL code S and best foreigner losing 2-0 vs strelok - playing from NA. how can a code s player without lag even lose maps?

Did you even watch those games?

no hes right i was massively outplayed
he didnt choose zerg
those fundamental mistakes keep getting to me

This was funny like 3 months ago. Now its only boring.


No, it's still funny.

I guess if you like that sort of whiny humor--different strokes I guess.


I don't think it's whiny, he's just being blunt. I haven't watched the games though.

It's whiny because it's the same thinly veiled excuses he always makes, same old story, same boring humor.
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