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FLuE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
March 02 2011 10:28 GMT
#1461
Ultras are so bad.

I can't believe there is a tier 3 unit in the game that is that horrible, especially considering what all you have to do to get to that point of making ultras as Zerg.

But I feel for the Zerg, I've lost plenty of games that way where you are so far ahead and just can't finish off the toss and if he is able to get the 3rd up and then the 4th you missed the window to win. It's just so hard to do enough damage with your 200/200 army vs. his 200/200 army to then remax and win the game.
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
March 02 2011 10:28 GMT
#1462
On March 02 2011 19:25 Trizz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2011 19:23 napo wrote:
On March 02 2011 19:22 AndAgain wrote:
I love Huk, but he really shouldn't have won that.

L-O-L

He outplayed Revival in the late-game sooo badly. I dont see why shouldnt he won.


Because the Z spent a shitload of resources on Ultras which were absolutely USELESS.
If they spent those resources on Roaches/Hydras/Mutas/Lings/Broodlords, just anything besides Ultras he would've probably won.


No, not with all those storms out. Hydras melt to storms extremely fast, and roaches get owned by archons and immortals pretty hard. Not to mention all the blink stalkers. Brood lords maybe, but mutas get owned by storm hard too, as do lings.

Revival's problem was throwing tons and tons of resources away in the mid game when he lost all those roaches and zerglings repeatedly, and then not having enough income later to really pump to match HuK's late game army.

HuK showed that it's not really a question of how many bases you have, but more a question of how well you use the resources you have. You can't just throw resources away all game long unless you're sure to win at that point.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
MrChupee
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia161 Posts
March 02 2011 10:28 GMT
#1463
On March 02 2011 19:27 theOnslaught wrote:
Zerg needs dark swarm, thats the only way to balance late game vs terran and protoss with the high damage colossi and tanks... its actually quite unbeliveable that Revival lost there, even if we all love huk and want him to do good.


Maybe a tweak to the army lineups but... ...you're saying this after he won a game off Zealot/Immortal/Stalker?

But...HuK fighting!
Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
March 02 2011 10:28 GMT
#1464
the zerg just played far too passive...he sat on his bases for far too long without teching up to T3...he also didnt even try to incorporate nydus or drops with his army and i really think that is what cost him. even before the ultralisks once huk got the 3rd and then the 4th his army just seemed unstoppable until the broodlords came out. TSL revival lost that match, huk capitalized well.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
March 02 2011 10:28 GMT
#1465
On March 02 2011 19:27 theOnslaught wrote:
Zerg needs dark swarm, thats the only way to balance late game vs terran and protoss with the high damage colossi and tanks... its actually quite unbeliveable that Revival lost there, even if we all love huk and want him to do good.

Dude had no stalkers, if he build any air units he would have won.
shaunnn
Profile Joined October 2010
Ireland1230 Posts
March 02 2011 10:28 GMT
#1466
I love the huk and john dynamic:D
The naniwa - Unit of protoss skill, defined as the number of gates you build off of one base
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
March 02 2011 10:28 GMT
#1467
Huk Interview starting. I'll post the questions.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
March 02 2011 10:28 GMT
#1468
"HuK look into the camera" Oh john.... lol
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
Resolve
Profile Joined August 2010
Singapore679 Posts
March 02 2011 10:28 GMT
#1469
JOHN BALLER

"Hi guys we're here with Huk...HUK LOOK AT THE CAMERA"
HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
March 02 2011 10:28 GMT
#1470
On March 02 2011 19:27 cnas wrote:
[image loading]


Brilliant Beaver.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
March 02 2011 10:28 GMT
#1471
On March 02 2011 19:23 spacenegroes wrote:
key fight of the game:

1. huk baits fungals with his zealots and immortals, which also happen to be in position to engage roaches and lings
2. huk blinks stalkers under broodlords
3. huk feedbacks all but 1 infestor
4. huk psi storms on the roach/lings

fucking unreal. UNREAL.


Yeah Revival just gave up after that.
There's no S in KT. :P
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
March 02 2011 10:28 GMT
#1472
IU in the background!
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
CSSolutionstv
Profile Joined November 2010
118 Posts
March 02 2011 10:28 GMT
#1473
The thing with the hydras is tha they're very very weak vs either storm or colossi... making them not really viable as they die too quick, same goes for zerglings, only real units you can use vs protoss in late game are roaches, ultras and broodlords, but all 3 units are hard countered by, immortals, zealots and stalkers with blink.
Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
March 02 2011 10:28 GMT
#1474
On March 02 2011 19:27 Scaryman wrote:
both tier 3 zerg units work really well with hydras but people never seem to go for this even when they have the money

Hydras are terrible lategame, both storm and collosus rape it. All zerg needed to do was go broodlord roach, since he knew there were no collosus.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
March 02 2011 10:28 GMT
#1475
On March 02 2011 19:26 Traveler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2011 19:23 Zerokaiser wrote:
Huk lost that game first, but Revival lost that game last.


That is what counts. But then again, if you watched Huk vs Nestea, the same thing happens, Huk will play from way behind against zerg and come back to win with some very efficient templar and immortal usage, truly amazing to see.

But if think if Revival had gone up to hive and broodlord tech right as he was on 5 base and maxed, I think he would have won, because it would have come around the time Huk was getting his third up... But instead he waited with a 2k/3k bank and it took him another 3-4 minutes to tech to broodlords.

That's protoss strenght at the moment. Turtle and come out with late game tech units, thus destroying the zerg who is sloppy to tech and/or who overmade certain units.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
March 02 2011 10:28 GMT
#1476
Question from Turdbase. HAHA!
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
Aus.Force
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1278 Posts
March 02 2011 10:29 GMT
#1477
"HuK look at the camera" LMFAO!!!
"no need for cinema, just watch special taktiks" - white-ra
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
March 02 2011 10:29 GMT
#1478
Before this turns into another Zerg underpowered thread I just wanted to thank everyone for the live reports. Normally when I sit here spamming refresh you can't get a feel for the game but nearly every single post was a relevent live report. Such an intense game.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
March 02 2011 10:29 GMT
#1479
HAHAHAHA THE INTERVIEW IS AWESOME
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
March 02 2011 10:29 GMT
#1480
On March 02 2011 19:27 theOnslaught wrote:
Zerg needs dark swarm, thats the only way to balance late game vs terran and protoss with the high damage colossi and tanks... its actually quite unbeliveable that Revival lost there, even if we all love huk and want him to do good.

It's not unbelievable if your opponent doesn't know how to play the late-game.
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
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