Ultras are so bad.

I can't believe there is a tier 3 unit in the game that is that horrible, especially considering what all you have to do to get to that point of making ultras as Zerg.

But I feel for the Zerg, I've lost plenty of games that way where you are so far ahead and just can't finish off the toss and if he is able to get the 3rd up and then the 4th you missed the window to win. It's just so hard to do enough damage with your 200/200 army vs. his 200/200 army to then remax and win the game.

Whitewing

United States7483 Posts

March 02 2011 10:28 GMT

#1462

On March 02 2011 19:25 Trizz wrote:

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Because the Z spent a shitload of resources on Ultras which were absolutely USELESS.
If they spent those resources on Roaches/Hydras/Mutas/Lings/Broodlords, just anything besides Ultras he would've probably won.

No, not with all those storms out. Hydras melt to storms extremely fast, and roaches get owned by archons and immortals pretty hard. Not to mention all the blink stalkers. Brood lords maybe, but mutas get owned by storm hard too, as do lings.

Revival's problem was throwing tons and tons of resources away in the mid game when he lost all those roaches and zerglings repeatedly, and then not having enough income later to really pump to match HuK's late game army.

HuK showed that it's not really a question of how many bases you have, but more a question of how well you use the resources you have. You can't just throw resources away all game long unless you're sure to win at that point.

MrChupee

Australia161 Posts

March 02 2011 10:28 GMT

#1463

On March 02 2011 19:27 theOnslaught wrote:
Zerg needs dark swarm, thats the only way to balance late game vs terran and protoss with the high damage colossi and tanks... its actually quite unbeliveable that Revival lost there, even if we all love huk and want him to do good.

Maybe a tweak to the army lineups but... ...you're saying this after he won a game off Zealot/Immortal/Stalker?

But...HuK fighting!

Irre

United States646 Posts

March 02 2011 10:28 GMT

#1464

the zerg just played far too passive...he sat on his bases for far too long without teching up to T3...he also didnt even try to incorporate nydus or drops with his army and i really think that is what cost him. even before the ultralisks once huk got the 3rd and then the 4th his army just seemed unstoppable until the broodlords came out. TSL revival lost that match, huk capitalized well.

DystopiaX

United States16236 Posts

March 02 2011 10:28 GMT

#1465

Dude had no stalkers, if he build any air units he would have won.

shaunnn

Ireland1230 Posts

March 02 2011 10:28 GMT

#1466

I love the huk and john dynamic:D

MoonBear

Straight outta Johto18973 Posts

March 02 2011 10:28 GMT

#1467

Huk Interview starting. I'll post the questions.

adeezy

United States1428 Posts

March 02 2011 10:28 GMT

#1468

"HuK look into the camera" Oh john.... lol

Resolve

Singapore679 Posts

March 02 2011 10:28 GMT

#1469

JOHN BALLER

"Hi guys we're here with Huk...HUK LOOK AT THE CAMERA"

HeIios

Sweden2523 Posts

March 02 2011 10:28 GMT

#1470

On March 02 2011 19:27 cnas wrote:

Brilliant Beaver.

Baarn

United States2702 Posts

March 02 2011 10:28 GMT

#1471

On March 02 2011 19:23 spacenegroes wrote:
key fight of the game:

1. huk baits fungals with his zealots and immortals, which also happen to be in position to engage roaches and lings
2. huk blinks stalkers under broodlords
3. huk feedbacks all but 1 infestor
4. huk psi storms on the roach/lings

fucking unreal. UNREAL.

Yeah Revival just gave up after that.

Moonwrath

United States9568 Posts

March 02 2011 10:28 GMT

#1472

IU in the background!

CSSolutionstv

118 Posts

March 02 2011 10:28 GMT

#1473

The thing with the hydras is tha they're very very weak vs either storm or colossi... making them not really viable as they die too quick, same goes for zerglings, only real units you can use vs protoss in late game are roaches, ultras and broodlords, but all 3 units are hard countered by, immortals, zealots and stalkers with blink.

Deleted User 47542

1484 Posts

March 02 2011 10:28 GMT

#1474

On March 02 2011 19:27 Scaryman wrote:
both tier 3 zerg units work really well with hydras but people never seem to go for this even when they have the money

Hydras are terrible lategame, both storm and collosus rape it. All zerg needed to do was go broodlord roach, since he knew there were no collosus.

WhiteDog

France8650 Posts

March 02 2011 10:28 GMT

#1475

On March 02 2011 19:26 Traveler wrote:

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That is what counts. But then again, if you watched Huk vs Nestea, the same thing happens, Huk will play from way behind against zerg and come back to win with some very efficient templar and immortal usage, truly amazing to see.

But if think if Revival had gone up to hive and broodlord tech right as he was on 5 base and maxed, I think he would have won, because it would have come around the time Huk was getting his third up... But instead he waited with a 2k/3k bank and it took him another 3-4 minutes to tech to broodlords.

That's protoss strenght at the moment. Turtle and come out with late game tech units, thus destroying the zerg who is sloppy to tech and/or who overmade certain units.

vrok

Sweden2541 Posts

March 02 2011 10:28 GMT

#1476

Question from Turdbase. HAHA!

Aus.Force

Australia1278 Posts

March 02 2011 10:29 GMT

#1477

"HuK look at the camera" LMFAO!!!

TheLink

Australia2725 Posts

March 02 2011 10:29 GMT

#1478

Before this turns into another Zerg underpowered thread I just wanted to thank everyone for the live reports. Normally when I sit here spamming refresh you can't get a feel for the game but nearly every single post was a relevent live report. Such an intense game.