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Please remember that these threads are for talking about the games. People who cannot watch rely on these threads for information. If the thread is diluted with balance/caster/lack of snacks whine, it makes it useless for those who want to read it.

Thanks a lot!
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
February 22 2011 11:17 GMT
#1641
On February 22 2011 20:13 Dommk wrote:
MVP lifted his barracks and at that moment a bunch of banelings rolled into his base. The Stars aligned in some godly fashion for July Zerg, not sure how well that would have gone if he ran up that ramp 15seconds sooner

Probably the same, because July didn't block the barracks, they landed. He then just busted the addon and bunker.
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
February 22 2011 11:17 GMT
#1642
On February 22 2011 20:11 Babaganoush wrote:
[image loading]

While I am happy JulyZerg won, the emotions of MVP with the trophy in the foreground made me feel really sad for him.

someone plz photoshops this with July as Jesus
brentsen
Profile Joined November 2010
1252 Posts
February 22 2011 11:17 GMT
#1643
On February 22 2011 20:13 kodas wrote:
Could someone please explain this to me. Didn't July just do something that equalizes to 2rax all-ining like Rain in the 3rd season of GSL? Why are people applauding him? Is there some double stranded i'm missing? Are Terran players 2nd class citizens? I don't understand

I guess it's simply because there are so many Terrans you are happy about a Zerg advancing even if it is in a cheesy way.
CaptainJS
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada30 Posts
February 22 2011 11:18 GMT
#1644
Despite it being quite sad to see MvP out so early, but it's probably better for the tournament. most people in GSL are scared of facing MvP, now that he's out literly anyone can win the whole thing now, can't wait for the rest of season 5 ^_^
kidleader
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Korea (South)233 Posts
February 22 2011 11:18 GMT
#1645
On February 22 2011 20:15 Cramsy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 20:14 kidleader wrote:
On February 22 2011 20:12 mangoloid wrote:
On February 22 2011 20:05 iEchoic wrote:
Unfortunately I don't think the better player moved on here. I guess that's how it goes sometimes, though.

Agreed. :/
Disappointing games. Didn't feel like July even did anything either of those games to win. He just sort of won.


He

A) worked out his opponent's most common build
B) exploited a potential weakness

Welcome to Starcraft. This is how the game develops.



C) He rolled up the ramp at the luckiest time possible.



All the better for him. Starcraft is a dynamic game. This is how the 'standard' gets worked out, as we get as greedy as possible while being as safe as possible.
Tokyo Seoul London New York \\ SlayerS, KT
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
February 22 2011 11:18 GMT
#1646
On February 22 2011 20:10 Cadaver!! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 20:06 Jakalo wrote:
Well actually that might mean MVP faces Huk when he goes up.

+ Show Spoiler +
Poor MVP can be relegated to code A

How? Why? The Code A finalists will choose their oponents, the rest will be selected randomly, and Huk haven't even qualified for Up & Down...


You might notice ''when'' looks a bit strange, thats because I tried to imply Huk is so good he will qualify :p Yes, he hasnt qualified.

Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
February 22 2011 11:18 GMT
#1647
On February 22 2011 20:16 iba001 wrote:
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On February 22 2011 20:09 The KY wrote:
On February 22 2011 20:08 confusedcrib wrote:
On February 22 2011 20:05 Talho wrote:
lol at that artwork, july had a nazi symbol on his chest, wtf

Some people need to learn about world religions The swastika in Hinduism represents the 4 arms that keep the community alive, the male/female monks and the male/female supporters of them. It's not just a "Nazi symbol" It was depicting July Zerg as the Hindu god Vishnu


I dunno man...I think that symbol has been pretty effectively rebranded.


it has in the west, but if you go to india you see it everywhere in its original form.

and i think the nazi swastika has arms that go the opposite direction to the hindu one.


yeah the nazi swastika is the mirrored image of the hindu swastika.
Do you really want chat rooms?
cordlc
Profile Joined November 2010
United States360 Posts
February 22 2011 11:18 GMT
#1648
Unbelievable. Can't believe July pulled it off...

The first game was definitely more of a bad strategical decision by MVP as opposed to the bunker lift in game 2, so I'm sure he won't make that mistake again - getting impatient / cocky, sending a weak timing attack across one of the largest maps in the pool, leaving him unprepared for the huge muta pop...

Sad to see our hero Terran fall, I wanted to see him play against MC in some epic PvTs! But since he'll definitely crush whoever challenges him in the Up & Down matches, I'm not too disappointed, we've seen him dominate plenty already. Also, it's great to know we're guaranteed to see more of JulyZerg (was worried he might drop out of Code S)
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 11:19:16
February 22 2011 11:18 GMT
#1649
As the chorus of boo's to July's cheese rain down, I think back to January GSL finals when MVP "star-sense'd" absolutely anything and everything MKP tried to do, and now against July, a complete and total lack of scouting lost him the game.
Baneling busting isn't cheese, fyi. Especially considering it only happens if a Terran walls. I consider strats dependent on what your opponent does not cheese by default, since it's a reactionary move and not done blindly.
SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
February 22 2011 11:18 GMT
#1650
lol gsl became less interesting for me (for code s) in the very first day =D
but I m looking forward for huk now
Incanus
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada695 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 12:45:21
February 22 2011 11:18 GMT
#1651
Funny how the only aggression a zerg can apply in the early game (except maybe a roach rush, but those are pretty now vs terrans) is considered all in...

Granted MVP looked tired, but July is a great player who has been practicing like mad recently, and it payed off.
Flash: "Why am I so good?" *sob sob*
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
February 22 2011 11:18 GMT
#1652
I'm happy for July but very very sad mvp is out.

Damn it!
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Buff345
Profile Joined October 2010
United States323 Posts
February 22 2011 11:18 GMT
#1653
On February 22 2011 20:14 hydraden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 20:10 Fayth wrote:
I think every "upset" we see proves that SC2 has much higher variance than broodwar


Yes, that just means low skill ceiling for SC2, because hundreds of people can get to about the same skill level. Then win or lose is just luck for them.

BW has way higher skill ceiling, even Flash or Jaedong has not grasp the game completely yet.



LOL you trying to say that you know what goes on in flash's and jaedong's minds makes it kind of hard to take you seriously. You honestly think that people fulling understand sc2? If its that easy why don't you do it and go throw down some wins on july, mc and mvp. I'm sure you'll get lucky at least once.
Caelixx
Profile Joined September 2010
United States283 Posts
February 22 2011 11:19 GMT
#1654
btw huge risks taken in both games for July


Yeah. Huge risks =/= crossing your fingers to get out of the Ro32 and hoping banebusts work to beat the best SC2 player in the world because late game would be an instant loss.

As many others have said, July has a huge history behind him in Brood War, but he hasn't done anything impressive in the SC2 scene yet.
Fruitdealer proved that balance didn't stop good players from making good decisions. Balance whining only makes it acceptable to your mind for you to lose, which is ultimately unacceptable.
branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
February 22 2011 11:19 GMT
#1655
On February 22 2011 20:14 hydraden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 20:10 Fayth wrote:
I think every "upset" we see proves that SC2 has much higher variance than broodwar


Yes, that just means low skill ceiling for SC2, because hundreds of people can get to about the same skill level. Then win or lose is just luck for them.

BW has way higher skill ceiling, even Flash or Jaedong has not grasp the game completely yet.


I don't think players are even close to the skill ceiling of SC2 yet. Don't forget, BW was out a long, long time.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
February 22 2011 11:19 GMT
#1656
On February 22 2011 20:17 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 20:16 niteReloaded wrote:
On February 22 2011 20:11 Gao Xi wrote:
Clearly these people calling July an average zerg never watched or played BW.

Would you be saying the same if he came from pro Age of Empires scene?

Any BW pro gets colossal favoritism here, people should be used to that by now.

It so happens to being a top pro at bw is the biggest achievement in the Esport scene. Tough hey ?
Nice July, was right to check that LR, you're still awesome it seems.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
netherDrake
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Singapore1831 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 11:19:37
February 22 2011 11:19 GMT
#1657
On February 22 2011 20:18 Durp wrote:
As the chorus of boo's to July's cheese rain down, I think back to January GSL finals when MVP "star-sense'd" absolutely anything and everything MKP tried to do, and now against July, a complete and total lack of scouting lost him the game.
Baneling busting isn't cheese, fyi. Especially considering it only happens if a Terran walls. I consider strats dependent on what your opponent does not cheese by default.


edit: nvm
SC2 player for Flash eSports. twitch.tv/nether_drake, https://twitter.com/bryan_sum, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bryan-Drake-Sum/468389706519567
PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
February 22 2011 11:19 GMT
#1658
Mvp is most likely going to face ST_squirtle and ST_bomber in the up&down matches...
Talking about gstl team grudges...
HowardRoark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
1146 Posts
February 22 2011 11:19 GMT
#1659
Anyone have the picture of July dressed as a watermelon?
"It is really good to get the double observatory if you want to get the speed and sight range for the observer simultaneously. It's a little bit of an advanced tactic, and by advanced, I mean really fucking bad."
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
February 22 2011 11:19 GMT
#1660
Hmm... SC music playing in the background? Very low?
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
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