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Please remember that these threads are for talking about the games. People who cannot watch rely on these threads for information. If the thread is diluted with balance/caster/lack of snacks whine, it makes it useless for those who want to read it.

Thanks a lot!
bearhug
Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
February 22 2011 18:15 GMT
#2681
On February 23 2011 03:12 vahgar.r24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 22:09 Tierfight wrote:
I didnt follow whole show today, so what happened to MVP? Did he drop from gsl 5 already?


Somone please answer ..is IMMvp out of the tournament?!


Yeah. He is out of GSL 5.
We are dusts in the vast cosmic arena. Need to make the most out of life when we still have it.
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
February 22 2011 18:17 GMT
#2682
On February 23 2011 03:12 vahgar.r24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 22:09 Tierfight wrote:
I didnt follow whole show today, so what happened to MVP? Did he drop from gsl 5 already?


Somone please answer ..is IMMvp out of the tournament?!


Yes, July is getting many thank you messages on battle.net from players atm.
Sv1
Profile Joined June 2010
United States204 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 18:32:05
February 22 2011 18:30 GMT
#2683
What on earth was that MC vs Hyperdub game, did Hyperdub throw it so MC could get another win? I honestly felt like I was watching a platinum league player, the game was just strange.

Edit for those who didn't/couldn't see. Hyperdub basically did an early bio poke, then tried a banshee harass and then sat on 1 base for 15+ minutes while sitting outside MCs base, never expanded, never attacked. Eventually MC attacked when he had a few colossus.
RHMVNovus
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
February 22 2011 18:33 GMT
#2684
On February 23 2011 03:30 Sv1 wrote:
What on earth was that MC vs Hyperdub game, did Hyperdub throw it so MC could get another win? I honestly felt like I was watching a platinum league player, the game was just strange.

Edit for those who didn't/couldn't see. Hyperdub basically did an early bio poke, then tried a banshee harass and then sat on 1 base for 15+ minutes while sitting outside MCs base, never expanded, never attacked. Eventually MC attacked when he had a few colossus.


If Bronze League has taught me anything, it's that one-base timing attacks at 17 minutes is a fucking fantastic strategy.
Droning his sorrows in massive amounts of macro
SergioCQH
Profile Joined October 2010
United States143 Posts
February 22 2011 18:34 GMT
#2685
Yes, It was Hyperdub doing his damn best to give MC the game short of making a ghost academy and nuking his own army.
vahgar.r24
Profile Joined October 2010
India465 Posts
February 22 2011 18:36 GMT
#2686
On February 23 2011 03:30 Sv1 wrote:
What on earth was that MC vs Hyperdub game, did Hyperdub throw it so MC could get another win? I honestly felt like I was watching a platinum league player, the game was just strange.

Edit for those who didn't/couldn't see. Hyperdub basically did an early bio poke, then tried a banshee harass and then sat on 1 base for 15+ minutes while sitting outside MCs base, never expanded, never attacked. Eventually MC attacked when he had a few colossus.


Gosu Gamers had a link in their report too..I dont wanna say it but really looks fishy ^^ Hope its not, kind leaves a damn bad taste if true.

+ Show Spoiler +
MC vs. Hyperdub
Do teammates throw matches? Probably not but that explanation seems as likely as any for the strangest match in a long time. From http://gosugamers.net/starcraft2/news/14694-gomtv-gsl-code-s-ro32-day-1-recap


So sad that IMMvp lost..I just dont get it, 4-0 in Jan and now out of the RO16 is it?! I cant believe he won by fluke..i dont get it!
Somethings are just worth fighting for
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2986 Posts
February 22 2011 18:45 GMT
#2687
On February 23 2011 03:03 kiy0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 00:23 sob3k wrote:
On February 23 2011 00:19 mytent wrote:
Wow MVP..

How did July win the second game against him? =/

Oh and... poor hyperdub! =( thought he had a chance this time!


FE into baneling bust, MVP lifted his rax just as the banelings came, but it didn't matter that much because July was suprised and mismicroed them back allowing MVP to reland them. Still it allowed 2-3 more banelings in than if it hadn't happened. Mostly MVP just wasn't ready for the bust at all.



It actually did matter. As the raxx land, MvP started building techlabs/reactors. A single banelings blew up the wall and July sudently found himself with 4/5 banelings inside the base of MvP. So it was a pure lucky moment... That was some kind of ladder type cheesy all-in that would work 1 out of 10 times versus a normal player and 1 out of 50 times against MvP. He got that one... Hope he loses in the next round by a mile.


MvP could have played it safer/scouted better. If you don't expect cheese/non-standard play in a tiebreaker game where you are the huge favorite then your gamesense is lacking. His build left him vulnerable to that kind of strat, he's got only himself to blame.

Don't get me wrong, there's a bit of luck involved in every game and in every play, but blaming luck everytime a lesser player gets the win by playing agressively is silly, that would mean any kind of BO win/loss is pure luck.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
February 22 2011 18:52 GMT
#2688
Man, I feel bad for MVP. He was crying, head down, face in his hands, at the end of the match with July.

At the same time, this kind of reaction makes him look super weak. Look, bad beats happen in Starcraft. Sometimes rock beats scissors. But to cry about it? Sad.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
February 22 2011 18:55 GMT
#2689
On February 23 2011 03:52 Random_0 wrote:
Man, I feel bad for MVP. He was crying, head down, face in his hands, at the end of the match with July.

At the same time, this kind of reaction makes him look super weak. Look, bad beats happen in Starcraft. Sometimes rock beats scissors. But to cry about it? Sad.


Bad beats happen in everything. When you see a team lose the superbowl, they cry. Crying is normal when you just lost your chance at taking another championship.
The Notorious Winkles
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 18:56:30
February 22 2011 18:56 GMT
#2690
I find it strange that not many, if any, pointed out how all in july was. I mean, he didn't even start making one queen, not alone two. It was very obvious long before the bust that this was an all in attack. Kind of disappointed in our casting archon that they didn't notice that (but well, they can't notice everything - even so).

A zerg off two bases, making lings, without even one queen making ... if that bust doesn't work, you are dead. Much more all in than the gameplan in the first game.

It did work though - and right at the 6:00 mark basically. Perfect execution.

If he had scanned his main, and poked the expo with a SCV, he would have known.

Awesome play by July.
Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
February 22 2011 19:00 GMT
#2691
On February 23 2011 03:56 aebriol wrote:
I find it strange that not many, if any, pointed out how all in july was. I mean, he didn't even start making one queen, not alone two. It was very obvious long before the bust that this was an all in attack. Kind of disappointed in our casting archon that they didn't notice that (but well, they can't notice everything - even so).

A zerg off two bases, making lings, without even one queen making ... if that bust doesn't work, you are dead. Much more all in than the gameplan in the first game.

It did work though - and right at the 6:00 mark basically. Perfect execution.

If he had scanned his main, and poked the expo with a SCV, he would have known.

Awesome play by July.


I agree.

On February 23 2011 01:22 Plexa wrote:

July : Making quick Banelings and Zerglings without making a Queen make this build order. If I do not allow my opponent to scout that and if Terran goes double expo after the first Barrack, I think it's an instant win.


raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 19:13:52
February 22 2011 19:03 GMT
#2692
On February 22 2011 20:08 Phantom_Sky wrote:
God of War

I have never watched sc1 july play, but now he's my favorite player!


It's never late to watch some of july's games from BW :





More games can be found here http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/July#ZvT .

BTW i am sad July didn't beat MC and MVP ended up being eliminated , because i wanted both July and MVP to advance , but if i had to pick 1 of them ... July sure as hell is my favourite SC player of all time .
mardi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1164 Posts
February 22 2011 19:04 GMT
#2693
i'm having audio problems watching the gom vods for zenio vs byun. anyone else have this problem? artosis and tasteless sound like the zerg overmind casting underwater.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
February 22 2011 19:04 GMT
#2694
On February 23 2011 03:03 kiy0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 00:23 sob3k wrote:
On February 23 2011 00:19 mytent wrote:
Wow MVP..

How did July win the second game against him? =/

Oh and... poor hyperdub! =( thought he had a chance this time!


FE into baneling bust, MVP lifted his rax just as the banelings came, but it didn't matter that much because July was suprised and mismicroed them back allowing MVP to reland them. Still it allowed 2-3 more banelings in than if it hadn't happened. Mostly MVP just wasn't ready for the bust at all.



It actually did matter. As the raxx land, MvP started building techlabs/reactors. A single banelings blew up the wall and July sudently found himself with 4/5 banelings inside the base of MvP. So it was a pure lucky moment... That was some kind of ladder type cheesy all-in that would work 1 out of 10 times versus a normal player and 1 out of 50 times against MvP. He got that one... Hope he loses in the next round by a mile.


All you people who are clueless about BW are getting on my nerves
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 19:05:41
February 22 2011 19:04 GMT
#2695
On February 23 2011 04:00 Random_0 wrote:
I agree.
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 01:22 Plexa wrote:
July : Making quick Banelings and Zerglings without making a Queen make this build order. If I do not allow my opponent to scout that and if Terran goes double expo after the first Barrack, I think it's an instant win.


Oh I didn't see that post, then probably a lot of people did notice. Well anyway, I looked at the vod (work during stream), and looking at hte production tab - no queens, just lings, and as a zerg player, I got really excited because I've never considered that (must hit 30 sec before other 2 base busts with normal play, at least).

... need to try out on ladder. Hehe!
McDonalds
Profile Joined March 2010
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
February 22 2011 19:09 GMT
#2696
Anybody can beat anybody in a high level tournament. Time and time again in GSL threads you see people expressing surprise that the previous champion lost in any round and there's no reason for it.
High five :---)
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
February 22 2011 19:10 GMT
#2697
On February 23 2011 04:04 mardi wrote:
i'm having audio problems watching the gom vods for zenio vs byun. anyone else have this problem? artosis and tasteless sound like the zerg overmind casting underwater.


Had the same thing. It's the VOD.
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
February 22 2011 19:10 GMT
#2698
On February 23 2011 04:04 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 03:03 kiy0 wrote:
On February 23 2011 00:23 sob3k wrote:
On February 23 2011 00:19 mytent wrote:
Wow MVP..

How did July win the second game against him? =/

Oh and... poor hyperdub! =( thought he had a chance this time!


FE into baneling bust, MVP lifted his rax just as the banelings came, but it didn't matter that much because July was suprised and mismicroed them back allowing MVP to reland them. Still it allowed 2-3 more banelings in than if it hadn't happened. Mostly MVP just wasn't ready for the bust at all.



It actually did matter. As the raxx land, MvP started building techlabs/reactors. A single banelings blew up the wall and July sudently found himself with 4/5 banelings inside the base of MvP. So it was a pure lucky moment... That was some kind of ladder type cheesy all-in that would work 1 out of 10 times versus a normal player and 1 out of 50 times against MvP. He got that one... Hope he loses in the next round by a mile.


All you people who are clueless about BW are getting on my nerves


Because, clearly BW accomplishments should be praised in a different game. I just hope July makes it far, else him winning MVP will be one of the worst things happening in this GSL.
I hope July and MVP meet in the GSTL again, revenge is always sweet.

Kinda offtopic, but does anyone know of any BW games where a dominating player got knocked out in earlier rounds by cheesy builds?
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
Somnolence
Profile Joined August 2010
Lithuania127 Posts
February 22 2011 19:12 GMT
#2699
Just realized... MVP picked Hyperdub for easy win. Hyperdub picked JulyZerg and now JulyZerg knocked MVP out.
Seronei
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden991 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 19:13:09
February 22 2011 19:12 GMT
#2700
On February 23 2011 04:10 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 04:04 mardi wrote:
i'm having audio problems watching the gom vods for zenio vs byun. anyone else have this problem? artosis and tasteless sound like the zerg overmind casting underwater.


Had the same thing. It's the VOD.

Yeah same for me

Seems to be fixed if you chose Standard Quality.
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