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Please remember that these threads are for talking about the games. People who cannot watch rely on these threads for information. If the thread is diluted with balance/caster/lack of snacks whine, it makes it useless for those who want to read it.

Thanks a lot!
ImmortalTofu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1254 Posts
February 22 2011 13:29 GMT
#2601
Holy crap.... holy crapppppp.... Omgomgomgomg......

I am really happy because I really don't like MVP.... But............ That's ridiculous.... Were the games between him and July like.... I have to buy a season ticket right now.... Omg........

BOSSTOSS FIGHTINGGGGGGGGGG!!!!! YOU JUST HAVE TO BEAT THE TEA!!!! And wow... MVP, that kills the fanboy dream for me of MVP vs. MC final.... Wowowowowow.......
"Friendship ain't a business deal"
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
February 22 2011 13:33 GMT
#2602
On February 22 2011 22:17 Senx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 22:12 Myles wrote:
On February 22 2011 22:10 Senx wrote:
I'm surprised there's so little talk about the best player in the world being knocked out in the first round of GSL :o


I think everyone is kinda in shock.


It's quite sad though, I miss dominant eras like in Broodwar where players like oov or savior were just destroying back to back tournaments.

I'm afraid we'll never see eras like that in SC2 for the simple fact that the game is much more fragile and less dependant on mechanics

Which really intensifies the term "having a good day" to the extreme as it seems to be the only real differential at the very top.

Then again, it's hard to judge the professional metagame after only a handful of GSLs. MVP's loss was very much due to July getting extremely lucky with timings. Nestea lost to cheese. Fruitdealer lost to an innovative style from an eventual finalist. MC lost to a radically new mech build. The game is more fragile and unstable, but probably because the metagame hasn't yet settled even after half a year.

However, I think it's customary for champions to rarely two of the same tournament twice. Nada and Julyzerg acquired their OSL victories over a span of time, not just in a sudden burst of invincibility. Flash and Jaedong get knocked out of OSL and MSL all the time nowadays, yet they still are considered the "best" players in their respective races. Maybe after a full year of GSLs can we truly see dominance from a few players.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
February 22 2011 13:34 GMT
#2603
On February 22 2011 22:29 ImmortalTofu wrote:
Holy crap.... holy crapppppp.... Omgomgomgomg......

I am really happy because I really don't like MVP.... But............ That's ridiculous.... Were the games between him and July like.... I have to buy a season ticket right now.... Omg........

BOSSTOSS FIGHTINGGGGGGGGGG!!!!! YOU JUST HAVE TO BEAT THE TEA!!!! And wow... MVP, that kills the fanboy dream for me of MVP vs. MC final.... Wowowowowow.......


lol none of the games today were worth buying a premium package for except for Byun vs Zenio
spaZzNx-`
Profile Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1221 Posts
February 22 2011 13:34 GMT
#2604
Lol, can't believe I missed Zenio v Byun. I've already watched the first group (IMMvp, oGsMC, oGsHyperdub and ST_July) and that was like 2 hours? Totally forgot about Byun though. Oh wells
Seems like I have the buy a premium ticket again, like last season where when I heard about Jinro beating MC and I missed it XD
TeamLiquid fighting~ Gogo SlayerS Terrans!
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
February 22 2011 13:34 GMT
#2605
On February 22 2011 22:29 ImmortalTofu wrote:
Holy crap.... holy crapppppp.... Omgomgomgomg......

I am really happy because I really don't like MVP.... But............ That's ridiculous.... Were the games between him and July like.... I have to buy a season ticket right now.... Omg........

BOSSTOSS FIGHTINGGGGGGGGGG!!!!! YOU JUST HAVE TO BEAT THE TEA!!!! And wow... MVP, that kills the fanboy dream for me of MVP vs. MC final.... Wowowowowow.......


Game 1:
MVP attacks July, cannot kill him, but kills like 20 drones with blue hellions.

July harasses MVP's barracks with muta, killed a tech/reactor, and maybe 10 marines or so.

MVP starts remaking army, July goes into all-in mode and makes a bunch of zergling/banelings.

Attacks mvp, mvp only has a single bunker for defense against maybe 20-30 speed banes and muta. Has to pull every scv, loses all of them basically.




Game 2 :

July does expo -> baneling bust

Makes like 10 banelings outside MVP's main. MVP lifts both barracks and started making ad-ons. Banelings 1-shot ad-ons, kill the bunker behind the wall in. Only like 4-7 marines were made since he was making a command center. July kills all SCV with zerglings.


Nether player really super-outplayed each other in either game, MVP just made one bad mistake each game and July hit him with something that owns that bad mistake.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
February 22 2011 13:40 GMT
#2606
Damn, can't believe Mvp is out. But this opens the road to victory for everyone else. Mvp was by far the player everyone feared most. I think almost anyone could take this gsl now. My money is on Nestea. Wishing for Slayersboxer to get far though.
The Notorious Winkles
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
February 22 2011 13:41 GMT
#2607
On February 22 2011 22:28 Supamang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 22:17 Senx wrote:
On February 22 2011 22:12 Myles wrote:
On February 22 2011 22:10 Senx wrote:
I'm surprised there's so little talk about the best player in the world being knocked out in the first round of GSL :o


I think everyone is kinda in shock.


It's quite sad though, I miss dominant eras like in Broodwar where players like oov or savior were just destroying back to back tournaments.

I'm afraid we'll never see eras like that in SC2 for the simple fact that the game is much more fragile and less dependant on mechanics

Which really intensifies the term "having a good day" to the extreme as it seems to be the only real differential at the very top.

I dunno man. Having the same people win over and over again is pretty boring. I mean, why is it fun when it ends up being "well looks like player X wins again..."?


Because when they DO lose, its sooo much more impactful, since nobody actually expects it. But now its like "oh well, better luck next time I guess, cant expect to do well twice in a row".

And you also grow attached to the players, but when they're winning GSL one month, then a few weeks later get knocked out first round, not so much.

Its hard to build a story and become a fan of something as inconsistent as the SC2 scene.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
February 22 2011 13:44 GMT
#2608
Wow Mvp is actually out of the tournament, who would have thought?

On a different note it was really nice to see a well...you know an actual crowd at the GSL.
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
February 22 2011 13:45 GMT
#2609
the Zenio vs Byun match was the way I hoped Jinro vs Idra matches would be so at least my hype got somewhat fulfilled
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
February 22 2011 13:48 GMT
#2610
Whoa MVP lost and Clide made it past first round, time to buy a ticket.
spaZzNx-`
Profile Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1221 Posts
February 22 2011 13:51 GMT
#2611
On February 22 2011 22:44 Existential wrote:
Wow Mvp is actually out of the tournament, who would have thought?

On a different note it was really nice to see a well...you know an actual crowd at the GSL.


Lol yeah. But the opportunity to see the champion of GSL3 v champion of GSL4 doesn't usually happen
TeamLiquid fighting~ Gogo SlayerS Terrans!
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3374 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 14:23:00
February 22 2011 14:22 GMT
#2612
Can anyone explain the group stage to me? It seems like July had a much harder time not getting the "free" game against Hyperdub and MC v MVP didn't happen.

And in the case of a tie why wouldn't they just give the player who won the first game the win instead of making them rematch.

Just seems odd....
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 22 2011 14:29 GMT
#2613
MC had already won two games in a row. Each other player had a loss. Therefore he wins. Similarly Hyperdub already lost two games in a row and cannot win, therefore he loses.

July and MVP both had one win and one loss, they play each other again to determine who gets second and who gets third.

If two players have two wins and two players have two losses, the top two will play each other to determine seeding in the ro16 and the bottom will play each other to determine seeding in the up and down matches.
motiust
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia97 Posts
February 22 2011 14:30 GMT
#2614
MVP look so gangsta in this pic [image loading] lol
IAttackYou
Profile Joined August 2010
United States330 Posts
February 22 2011 14:34 GMT
#2615
wtf, I did not expect this for first series O_O
I'm not a nub, I'm gosu of tomorrow
Gracksaurusrex
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom171 Posts
February 22 2011 14:34 GMT
#2616
On February 22 2011 23:30 motiust wrote:
MVP look so gangsta in this pic [image loading] lol


No he just looks like a mug
tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
February 22 2011 14:37 GMT
#2617
Holy shit July... How many times can you dominate?
Blueblister
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden321 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 14:43:34
February 22 2011 14:42 GMT
#2618
On February 22 2011 23:29 Ummbeefy wrote:
MC had already won two games in a row. Each other player had a loss. Therefore he wins. Similarly Hyperdub already lost two games in a row and cannot win, therefore he loses.

July and MVP both had one win and one loss, they play each other again to determine who gets second and who gets third.

If two players have two wins and two players have two losses, the top two will play each other to determine seeding in the ro16 and the bottom will play each other to determine seeding in the up and down matches.

It's to prevent teammates from dropping games to "save" their friends from elimination. With this system each player has a stake in every march. If someone drops a game, his chances for advancing will theoretically decrease at least as much as his friends chances increase.
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
February 22 2011 14:50 GMT
#2619
Wait so is MVP eliminated?
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EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
February 22 2011 14:53 GMT
#2620
Sorry for posting this here, but I don't know where else it'd be appropriate. I've bought a premium ticket to watch the VODs - but can I share this ticket with my friend without getting problems?
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
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