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bhp255
Profile Joined July 2008
United States600 Posts
January 27 2011 10:59 GMT
#801
good experience for leenock, he's still young
this should help him be a better reader and be more decisive in the future
Following Okazaki's steps to becoming a Fuuko Master
spidii
Profile Joined October 2010
United States372 Posts
January 27 2011 10:59 GMT
#802
On January 27 2011 19:56 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 19:53 Holdinga wrote:
I like leenock, but I am extremely happy that liveforever won because of artosis talking trash about him. He says he is low diamond material, but i'm pretty sure he will beat artosis... artosis is not even in code A... I agree with everyone taht says that Artosis should now talk trash about him


You dont have to be the best player in the world to recognize when a player plays badly. are you kidding me?


Agreed, dumbest excuse in the world. No commentator, no critic is better than any player from the sport that they commentate for, that has nothing to do with anything. Artosis as a commentator has every right to criticize someone when they don't perform up to even the lowest standards, that is part of his job. When a football player plays a crap game, they get eaten up by commentators, by the media, same with E-Sports, stop spouting out useless crap.
rOMi
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)120 Posts
January 27 2011 10:59 GMT
#803
lol LiveForever is gonna be the joke player of code S now... he doesn't even seem to care about the game and only plays because he is required to

Pretty baller that he stayed in tho xD
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
January 27 2011 10:59 GMT
#804
Wow, what a shame, that 5/6 rax all in is pretty tough to deal with any race. The banes nest might have helped a little, but no speed and stim makes even banes very difficult to pull off. infestors wouldnt have enough energy either.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
Resolve
Profile Joined August 2010
Singapore679 Posts
January 27 2011 10:59 GMT
#805
On January 27 2011 19:57 iLLusive wrote:
Completely no offense because I always believe in that "To the best player win" but does this guy really want to be here? "I didn't prepare any builds for today" I don't know how anyone else feels about it but I would much rather have people who desire to be here, more then just showing up, be apart of the GSL.

I think Leenock was over-confident and did not play his games well. (TBH, I don't think he prepared for LiveForever either?) If you cannot even beat someone who "didn't prepare any builds for today", you must've really choked hard.
HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
January 27 2011 10:59 GMT
#806
Wow. Byun is really knows, who he wants to pick in his group. Really ridicolous leenock-liveforever match. pff
No carpal tunnel no skill
ProdigySim
Profile Joined November 2010
United States17 Posts
January 27 2011 10:59 GMT
#807
On January 27 2011 19:56 klauz619 wrote:
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On January 27 2011 19:55 LoCaD wrote:
Troll that Guys Artosis so hard plz.


He's probably gonna get fired if he keeps flaming people better than him and the whole code-A division.

Artosis/Tasteless' job is to keep the foreigners watching the GSL. They aren't going to do it by lying to us.

This guy kind of said in his interviews that he didn't even really prepare for this match. Kind of sad! But Leenock had some very lackluster play :/
YoucriedWolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
January 27 2011 10:59 GMT
#808
lol artosis is so mad
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
January 27 2011 10:59 GMT
#809
he didn't prepare ANY builds? He followed his HEART? Seriously? XD .

I have to say though, it sucks that leenock lost. But he lost to a noob that hardly even plays anymore. And its funny because everyone was hating on him.
Gudeldar
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1200 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 11:00:19
January 27 2011 10:59 GMT
#810
On January 27 2011 19:58 Holdinga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 19:56 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
On January 27 2011 19:53 Holdinga wrote:
I like leenock, but I am extremely happy that liveforever won because of artosis talking trash about him. He says he is low diamond material, but i'm pretty sure he will beat artosis... artosis is not even in code A... I agree with everyone taht says that Artosis should now talk trash about him


You dont have to be the best player in the world to recognize when a player plays badly. are you kidding me?



Well he won didn't he? He didn't play good the first game, but he played well in the next 2 games and won them


Anybody in Diamond or Masters could have done what he did in game 2 and 3. Two base MM timings aren't the most difficult thing in the world. It was Leenoks fault for not stopping them.
Sniffy
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia290 Posts
January 27 2011 11:00 GMT
#811
On January 27 2011 19:58 reapsen wrote:
Quite lolsy that two 6Rax-All-in rushes, that almost every diamond player in the world can pull off, keeps you in Code-S.


The game shouldnt reward such braindead play. Stim pushes, 4gate pushes, roach rushes, its all bullshit that shouldnt work so easily.

its always harder to defend then actually execute the attacks, which is the wrong way around.

inb4 some 4gating retard quotes me and tries to defend his only build
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 27 2011 11:00 GMT
#812
LiveForever probably doesn't practice hard. He made the semifinals in Season 1, and then I believe just fell off the face of the planet. But even if he isn't into SC 2 like he was months ago, and he doesn't really prepare for matches, he still gets like $1,500 free money for getting his ass kicked in the Code S tournament.

Seems like a nice life.

Never practice. Follow your heart. Win the Up-and-Down match. Make $1,500. Repeat FOREVER.
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FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 11:01:35
January 27 2011 11:00 GMT
#813
On January 27 2011 19:58 Holdinga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 19:56 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
On January 27 2011 19:53 Holdinga wrote:
I like leenock, but I am extremely happy that liveforever won because of artosis talking trash about him. He says he is low diamond material, but i'm pretty sure he will beat artosis... artosis is not even in code A... I agree with everyone taht says that Artosis should now talk trash about him


You dont have to be the best player in the world to recognize when a player plays badly. are you kidding me?



Well he won didn't he? He didn't play good the first game, but he played well in the next 2 games and won them


2 games says nothing about how good a player is overall. If you think so then I have nothing further to say to you. While leenock has showed that he is capable of epic games and well executed plays liveforever just further proved that he isnt code s material, just like his other matches have shown.
Do you really want chat rooms?
Shirokuma
Profile Joined March 2010
United States39 Posts
January 27 2011 11:00 GMT
#814
I'm going to go 1base 6rax in ladder now and call it the "Just follow your heart" build. :D
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
January 27 2011 11:00 GMT
#815
Leenock is obviously the far superior player but failed to play it safe. It really is his own fault for losing.
That said, I don't think LiveForever could have pulled the upset if he played Protoss or Zerg. Those races just don't have the same alpha strike and all-in power (except maybe 4Gate). In other words: unlike Protoss and Zerg, Terran is always dangerous, even in the hands of a lesser player. We've seen lots of "bad" Terrans advance far in the leagues, much more than Zergs or Protosses.
Zerglot
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia229 Posts
January 27 2011 11:00 GMT
#816
On January 27 2011 19:58 Holdinga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 19:56 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
On January 27 2011 19:53 Holdinga wrote:
I like leenock, but I am extremely happy that liveforever won because of artosis talking trash about him. He says he is low diamond material, but i'm pretty sure he will beat artosis... artosis is not even in code A... I agree with everyone taht says that Artosis should now talk trash about him


You dont have to be the best player in the world to recognize when a player plays badly. are you kidding me?



Well he won didn't he? He didn't play good the first game, but he played well in the next 2 games and won them


Does winning make you good. Nope. But can being good let you win. Yes.
Also played well? Leenock screwed up with no banelings and a mis-scout of factory
Xax
Profile Joined December 2003
475 Posts
January 27 2011 11:00 GMT
#817
ohhhh artosis is SO pissed
CalmDown.Breathe
Profile Joined June 2010
United States176 Posts
January 27 2011 11:00 GMT
#818
Hmm... IdrA is temp banned at the moment i believe... ): i would love to hear his opinions after that game. If that is the caliber of code S, ret and huk should have no problems accomplishing code S next season.
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
January 27 2011 11:00 GMT
#819
On January 27 2011 19:50 Demoralized Monkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 19:43 Live2Win wrote:
On January 27 2011 19:40 Demoralized Monkey wrote:
On January 27 2011 19:36 Live2Win wrote:
honestly I don't know how Artosis and Tasteless can say stuff like the crap that they're saying about a player and GOM not doing anything about it. It's so unprofessional I can't believe I'm actually hearing them talk this much crap about a player on a GLOBAL stream.

Lol... this is eSPORTS. Not e-"leisure game with Live2Win's kids." Extremely ironic name btw.

This is competitive gaming. COMPETITIVE. Any performer who performs really bad will get torched. Get it?

who the hell are you? I have been watching competitive SC since 6+ years ago. Trust me in Korea E-SPORTS is the same as any other "real" sport.

I couldn't care less about your "resumé". I don't know what planet you live on or what politically correct channels you watch all the time, but athletes getting torched when they perform real bad is nothing out of the ordinary. If you push with 2 tanks, 8 marines and a medivac that far into the game, you deserve to be torched. That is diamond level play.

You can whine all you want about this, it's you and perhaps two other people out of a hundred who have an issue regarding this.

i quoted my resume to inform you of the fact that though the reality is that esports isn't obviously treated as a real sport, the community supporting it and the stations running it (OGN and MBC) are all treating it as one.

My point is, the Koreans are doing their best to make it as professional as possible, so that they are comparable to any other sport. It would be nice if that vision was kept from all aspects, even the english casting.

If this was a simple re-stream casting online, I really wouldn't care. I do enjoy their jokes and I do like to hear "real" thoughts instead of commentators trying to defend the terrible player because it's being casted on TV.

But unfortunately, or rather quite fortunately, it's not. They are endorsed and employed by a company that wishes to have a professional image, and to have that respect.

Of course it is true that the Korean casting is waaay too "nice". I've heard some casters go out of their way saying ridiculous stuff to hopefully have the other player not look as stupid. I'm not asking for that level of catering. I like the fact that Tastosis will sometimes be raw and real about it and just point out when people are playing down right bad, rather than coating it nicely. But honestly that one game was really crossing boundaries.
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 27 2011 11:00 GMT
#820
Well, 2 free wins for 2 players in Code S next season.

If sanZenith beats oGsTOP, I'm going to facepalm so hard.
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