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No balance whining. 2-day temp bans will be handed out like candy.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
January 23 2011 08:06 GMT
#3461
GG's well deserved by MarineKing.

The thing about Jinros play, or maybe MKP play is that Jinro fell behind on expansions so fast. Marineking had 5 orbital commands when Jinro had two, so even if his army is countered by Jinros, and even if his bases get killed left and right he still has a huge economic lead. I'm not sure whether Jinro just couldn't expand due to the insane mobility of bio, or just kinda forgot. Either way, enjoyable series.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
January 23 2011 08:06 GMT
#3462
TvT finals, but at least MKP looks promising
Omnipresent
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States871 Posts
January 23 2011 08:06 GMT
#3463
On January 23 2011 17:03 getdead3 wrote:
No one is going to watch the Finals....TvT


MKP is easily one of my least favorite players, but his games will probably be more dynamic vs MVP than Jinro's would be.

Also, it'll be nice to see MVP teach everyone how to beat the marineking style.
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
January 23 2011 08:06 GMT
#3464
I would say Jinro's mechanics are a bit better then MKP, but MKP is considered "predictable" so the two gold expansions really are out of the blue. That economic boost to his bio plus crisp timings was enough to push the last two games in MKP's favor.
Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
January 23 2011 08:06 GMT
#3465
On January 23 2011 17:05 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
grats to MKP his tvt is really good even if it's just marines he plays it out beautifully


It was actually just pure bio one of the 4 games
doihy
Profile Joined August 2010
668 Posts
January 23 2011 08:06 GMT
#3466
On January 23 2011 17:04 Penecks wrote:
[image loading]


LOL Someone better make one if MVP beats MKP.
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
January 23 2011 08:06 GMT
#3467
Slow reaction time by Jinro, not posting in the LR thread yet ...

Am scrolling through the pages to find his reaction, always love that
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
January 23 2011 08:06 GMT
#3468
July, moon and fruitdealer better make it to Code S.
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 08:07:47
January 23 2011 08:06 GMT
#3469
Grats to both players, Jinro learns and improve very fast so he'll return better.

And MKP/MVP have the very same TvT style, this serie will just be epic.
Loddigesia
Profile Joined April 2010
247 Posts
January 23 2011 08:07 GMT
#3470
MKP keeps impressing me.
Really clever play today, exploiting the immobility of the heavy tank army of Jinro with drops, flanks, coutner attacks
aka gorfou
busbarn
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden984 Posts
January 23 2011 08:07 GMT
#3471
good job jinro still, top4 is no shame!
Kanako
Profile Joined November 2010
8 Posts
January 23 2011 08:07 GMT
#3472
MKP is really underrated he is more then just marines
he's gamesense is probolly one of the best in sc2
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
January 23 2011 08:07 GMT
#3473
On January 23 2011 16:43 spidii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 16:43 cangiz wrote:
On January 23 2011 16:41 tyCe wrote:
Jinro just needs to refine his play more. He's slightly too greedy when it's not worth it to be, and his decision making has not been the level of semi-final play.

MKP is a gimmicky bish, but Jinro hasn't been playing smart enough to expose him IMO.


Lol and Jinro isn't gimmicky? Give me a break.



If these two play a straight up game, Jinro wins.

Until I opened the nested quote I thought you're talking about Idra v Jinro. And like WTF.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
January 23 2011 08:07 GMT
#3474
On January 23 2011 17:05 iEchoic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 17:03 hifriend wrote:
On January 23 2011 17:00 iEchoic wrote:
On January 23 2011 16:59 hifriend wrote:
MKP taking game 4 with an unscouted economic cheese. Brilliant.


Rofl, literally every single thing he does is considered cheese.

BANSHEES = CHEESE
EXPANDING = CHEESE
MACROING = CHEESE
MICROING = CHEESE

Christ.

Last game was the only cheese mkp did this game, I mean yeah possibly proxy banshee as well but that can be effective even if scouted. Bw players should understand.

The double expo was a clever, clever economic cheese. It was amazing play basically.


Taking a third v a FE is safe. See what MVP did on metal. Nothing cheesy at all about it, the 400 resources is negated by the defender's advantage because you know your opponent can't make more than your army + 400 minerals.

No it gets demolished if it's scouted early enough by a couple of timing pushes.
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
January 23 2011 08:07 GMT
#3475
At least we should have a good final match, no TSL_Rain, these are both good players.

Great season, Jinro. That match against oGsEnsnare was the best thing ever witnessed on the GSL.
Big water
cydereal
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States193 Posts
January 23 2011 08:07 GMT
#3476
MKP deserves a lot of credit here. The thrust of his sword is all marines, but he's being incredibly adaptive. We saw quick attacks, some sneaky play, some solid expanding... one dimensional he is not. Watching him dart in and out and force siege was beautiful.

Great fight, Jinro. Game one was beautifully choreographed. You have very little to prove, keep working on your game and a title will be yours!
-Strider-
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico1605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 08:09:14
January 23 2011 08:07 GMT
#3477
On January 23 2011 17:04 Penecks wrote:
[image loading]


Omg i laughed so hard :D
What is up? IM NESTEAAAA!
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 08:08:06
January 23 2011 08:07 GMT
#3478
Recap:

Both players FE but MK also takes a quick third, the gold base. In classic MK style, he prefers the mobility in infantry units over powerful tanks. Despite having a higher quality army for most of the game, Jinro loses to the superior numbers from MK.
Tipany
Profile Joined November 2010
United States368 Posts
January 23 2011 08:07 GMT
#3479
Tanks aren't the same as what they used to be in BW. Extremely good at sieging and also defending but doesn't seem to be the case in SC2.

Shouldn't tanks in TvT be used simply for defense? If you consider how fast marauders are with stim, how much HP they have, and also how well they DPS against tanks, don't they completely nullify tanks in their role of attack?

It seems like a really poor idea to use tanks for attacking when they just simply can't fill that role, not to mention the fact that doing so greatly diminishes your mobility. Instead, Jinro could have done what MKP was doing (expoing everywhere) by setting up tanks in good locations to defend and used whatever else to harass. Then, when tanks reach critical mass, move out and overwhelm the opponent.

I'm a noob at SC2 and I don't watch too often so can anyone tell me why it seemed like tanks aren't viable for offense in TvT?
wat.
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
January 23 2011 08:07 GMT
#3480
Even though there is a few, don`t downplay MKP`s play, you aren`t giving Jinro credit by doing so. They both played amazing in code S.
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