EPT[GSL] Code A Ro16 Day 4 / Code S Ro16 Group D - Page 178
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Qweasdzxc
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Kettchup
United States1911 Posts
On January 15 2011 20:16 Zarahtra wrote: mm, I actually think it was a decent response. If that banshee had been denied seeing the fleet beacon(and he hadn't scanned), I'm not sure if jinro would've actually taken that game, it'd have in the least been a lot closer. It really felt though like jinro just had a lot better macro, I mean he had so much stuff, like 15 or so vikings, 7+ tanks, 4+ thors mixed with rines and hellions. MC had 5 or so carriers, 5-7 phoenixes, like 2 immos, and couple of gateway units(this might not be exact, but felt like around those numbers when watching it). Add onto it that all the phoenixes died within the first 5 sec of the battle... Dunno wondering if he had some resources in the bank, since they were on similar worker count... Are you counting those 15-20 or however many they were stalkers that he sent to Jinro's base? It's never pretty when you only engage with part of your army. I'm not really sure why he bothered putting up a defense though, instead of going for a full base trade. He may have had a chance that way, considering that it was reasonably close at the end. | ||
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cameronkrazie86
United States296 Posts
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doffe
Sweden636 Posts
On January 15 2011 20:25 raidmaster wrote: I don't have to prove you anything. It is obvious that rules of that exist on "mature" forums just to respect people thoughts and opinions. Why is it so hard to understand? For somebody cursing is inappropriate, for someone else its insulting religion (especially if this person believes in such). This is why regulations exist and why moderatos exist. Can anyone link me a TL regulations? such a slippery slope though, I mean for something like this to work you need some objective point of view on what is correct and not to say on a forum, this is hardly possible. I mean, why cant people claim any joke to be offensive and thus bannable? I realize there are limits to what is ok to say or not but where do they go and who has the right to set these limits... I asume the response is the moderators/admins but you seem to be talking about what IS and IS NOT appropriate on a forum in general and that is an entirely different question then what is subjectivly viewed appropriate from a select group. I for one find jokes about more or less anything fine aslong as its made obvious it is just that, a joke. People take themselves, their beliefs or w/e to serious if that picture offends them, much like the silly reactions to the danish comics about muhammed. such things should most certinly be within the freedom of speech and expression. | ||
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sqrt
1210 Posts
Tonight we: 1. Disrespected MC 2. Disrespected Jinro 3. Disrespected the oGs-TL house. 4. Now some *** is arguing about rules with mods? The reason why I am still visiting this forum is because of it's strict rules and the mods who uphold those rules. Don't ruin the good night we had with inappropriate behavior/comments. | ||
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doffe
Sweden636 Posts
On January 15 2011 20:30 Qweasdzxc wrote: anyone know where i can find VODs that aren't on the GOMtv website? dont think there is any. | ||
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raidmaster
474 Posts
On January 15 2011 20:30 Nemireck wrote: I've never seen a forum that has banned people for such images. There's huge difference between something being listed in the rules, and the rules actually being enforced. So while you may be correct that there is often a rule handling such things, the actual enforcement of such rules is usually incredibly lax. Yeah, but why even state rules if you don't follow them. I'm pretty sure what you said is because a person which feels insulted hardly ever informs about that (don't wanna be an outsider). I'm pretty sure that if someone really feels wrong about certain picture/statement and pm forum administration about it, justifying why something feels wrong to them, staff will at least consider taking some actions. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33723 Posts
On January 15 2011 19:29 usethis2 wrote: BTW, Koreans aren't too kind toward MC's attitude today, judging from PlayXP posts. Especially considering: 1. How Jinro treated him in last season 2. How MC behaved after he beat Rainbow (cut-throat gesture) Koreans love Jinro for his manners, humility, and awesome games he provides. On the other hand some folks have been getting fed up with MC's arrogance. Hm I dont understand what they think MC did wrong? | ||
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Shalaiyn
Netherlands2735 Posts
On January 15 2011 20:38 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Hm I dont understand what they think MC did wrong? I think it's that he didn't shake your hand and people took it as he was pissed and was a bad sportsman for not shaking your hand. | ||
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ShcShc
Canada912 Posts
WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW JINRO wow. seriously. Just finished watching the VODs. Beating MC twice????? Wow man | ||
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raidmaster
474 Posts
On January 15 2011 20:33 doffe wrote: such a slippery slope though, I mean for something like this to work you need some objective point of view on what is correct and not to say on a forum, this is hardly possible. I mean, why cant people claim any joke to be offensive and thus bannable? I realize there are limits to what is ok to say or not but where do they go and who has the right to set these limits... I asume the response is the moderators/admins but you seem to be talking about what IS and IS NOT appropriate on a forum in general and that is an entirely different question then what is subjectivly viewed appropriate from a select group. I for one find jokes about more or less anything fine aslong as its made obvious it is just that, a joke. People take themselves, their beliefs or w/e to serious if that picture offends them, much like the silly reactions to the danish comics about muhammed. such things should most certinly be within the freedom of speech and expression. Obviously you are right. I'll ask you now: Did those troll pictures offended you? Would you ban for them? People got banned although they were just jokes (miserable, but still).The same thing is with that religious picture. Everything depends on the point of view. | ||
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Deckkie
Netherlands1595 Posts
great matches Jinro ur the man. now Jinro vs IdrA!! may the best man win !! :D:D:D:D:D | ||
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superarmy
New Zealand422 Posts
On January 15 2011 20:38 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Hm I dont understand what they think MC did wrong? I think it's a little like in BW the arrogant cocky players tended to be more reviled, players like iloveoov would be a good example of this. Then again, these were the same people who forced Rain to apologize in GSL3, so I think they tend to overreact to stuff like this. Just a theory, I personally think the guy is awesome. It's nice to see the variety of personalities across the scene. | ||
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sqrt
1210 Posts
On January 15 2011 20:38 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Hm I dont understand what they think MC did wrong? Yay, Jinro! Congratulations man, you're such a baller. I was sitting there, after you lost that game, thinking "Damn it, Jinro is doomed.". Before the game vs MC I was in somewhat a bad mood, you know, "Can a Terran please beat him, just to show us that it can be done?" and then you 2-0 him. I <3 you, <3 you, <3 you, looking forward to your next match. | ||
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ShcShc
Canada912 Posts
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Tercotta
Canada402 Posts
On January 15 2011 20:24 doffe wrote: I agree, and I also think the groupplay in RO16 should BO3s instead. The entire system is a bit of imo, just for a moment pretend they all where forced to face eachother instead of as it is now, then the result could have been very different. after 2 games each Marineking 2-0 Jinro 1-1 MC 1-1 Rainbow 0-2 then now the matchups would be Jinro vs Rainbow and MC vs Marineking. This could very well have had Jinro and MC as winners thus giving this table Marineking 2-1 Jinro 2-1 MC 2-1 Rainbow 0-3 with marineking jinro and MC all beating each other forcing another groupplay or something ot the sort. It just doesnt fit that you call it a "group" and then who you meet first can have such a huge play on the results. But also it artificially eliminates Rainbow because it could also be, Marineking 3-0 Jinro 1-2 MC 1-2 Rainbow 1-2 | ||
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Nemireck
Canada1875 Posts
On January 15 2011 20:35 raidmaster wrote: Yeah, but why even state rules if you don't follow them. I'm pretty sure what you said is because a person which feels insulted hardly ever informs about that (don't wanna be an outsider). I'm pretty sure that if someone really feels wrong about certain picture/statement and pm forum administration about it, justifying why something feels wrong to them, staff will at least consider taking some actions. Not usually, no. The staff will mostly act on their own intentions, especially if it's a private website. If this were a large corporate forum like the Blizzard forum, or a Newspaper forum to discuss the news, or a forum run by Wal-Mart to discuss their stores, I could see you having a point. Large corporations have to have due-diligence when it comes to enforcing their forum rules. But for the vast majority of online forums, they are run by a limited group of moderators that will moderate based on their own personal feelings, and not always based on the letter of the "law" of their forum. While I've only participated in a few dozen of the many many thousands (millions?) of forums that exist on the internet, I can tell you that of that few dozen forums, there is a 0% chance that the Jinro pic that implies he's Jesus would ever incite a ban. As well, I have a hard time imagining that anyone would find the picture offensive to begin with. One of the main christian tenets is to "live like Jesus", and Jinro's act of condolence would be a great example of that, giving great meaning to the picture to any christian who may stumble across it, rather than inciting offense. | ||
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Looms
United States4624 Posts
On January 15 2011 20:41 Shalaiyn wrote: I think it's that he didn't shake your hand and people took it as he was pissed and was a bad sportsman for not shaking your hand. This, basically. Some people expect professional athletes to show humility in victory and defeat. MC notoriously does neither. | ||
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raidmaster
474 Posts
On January 15 2011 20:44 Nemireck wrote: While I've only participated in a few dozen of the many many thousands (millions?) of forums that exist on the internet, I can tell you that of that few dozen forums, there is a 0% chance that the Jinro pic that implies he's Jesus would ever incite a ban. As well, I have a hard time imagining that anyone would find the picture offensive to begin with. One of the main christian tenets is to "live like Jesus", and Jinro's act of condolence would be a great example of that, giving great meaning to the picture to any christian who may stumble across it, rather than inciting offense. It is actually the crucifix that symbolizes Christs torments and death being compared to something like MC having his game lost that may concern people a lot more. I see this discussion going nowhere, so it will be wise to end it. Obviously, as I said, everything is a matter of point of view. | ||
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samaNo4
Spain245 Posts
On January 15 2011 20:35 raidmaster wrote: Yeah, but why even state rules if you don't follow them. I'm pretty sure what you said is because a person which feels insulted hardly ever informs about that (don't wanna be an outsider). I'm pretty sure that if someone really feels wrong about certain picture/statement and pm forum administration about it, justifying why something feels wrong to them, staff will at least consider taking some actions. I'm somebody feels wrong about it he can leave the forums, nobody forces you to stay here. TL admins do a lot of thinks to make us happy but never forget this is TEAMLIQUID'S FORUM and they have the voice and the voting here, and if they don't think the picture is offensive (which I think it's not) they won't remove it. Btw, Haven't seen the games but so glad MarineKing and Jinro did it. Couldn't have been better. Congrats Jinro!! Kick that mythological serpent's ass in the next round!! | ||
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