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Juliette
United States6003 Posts
On January 13 2011 21:29 PerfectTear wrote: Did they change the format of r16 groups, i remember that previoulsy it only went to 2:0 max, but the results list MVP as 3:0 ? two people 2-0d so (mvp and choya) so they did a match to decide placings in ro8 | ||
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Maskedsatyr
Singapore1245 Posts
On January 13 2011 21:14 vnlegend wrote: You guys are just total and complete hypocrites. Choya is EXACTLY the same as MC. Only MC is slighly better at his 1-base attacks. Choya and MC do exactly the same shyts. MC gets raped in macro games too. All hail Choya, the mini-MC. MC's 1 base attacks are near unstoppable and he definitely does not get raped in macro games... | ||
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adrift
192 Posts
saying he doesn't belong in code S is silly. sure when you compare him to the top top players he looks bad but he plays better than all the other cheesy protoss we see in code A. his macro isn't completely terrible when he plays a longer game either he just has a cheesy style if he didn't belong in code S he wouldn't be in code s. he had plenty of chances to lose in either group. when you think about it he is sadly a top 5 protoss player in the world. after the pretty agreed upon top 3 (MC Tester Genius) there really aren't many others to choose from. You're looking at sangho/squirtle/choya/inca in that next tier and there really aren't any others to choose from edit: does anyone know what happened to MVPs teammate on woonjin that also switched? he played P and we saw him in one of the GSLs (or maybe it was the team tournament?) but haven't seen him since | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
On January 13 2011 21:29 PerfectTear wrote: Did they change the format of r16 groups, i remember that previoulsy it only went to 2:0 max, but the results list MVP as 3:0 ? If you go 2-0 you are through, but if 2 people go 2-0 you need to have a playoff between them to determine who was #1 in the group, and as a result who gets drawn where for the next stage of the brackets ^^ They did this in the r32 groups too, though there you would also have a playoff between the 0-2 players as well since you needed to determine who was 3rd and who was 4th for the up and down matches with Code A. This round it's unnecessary since finishing 9-16 just ensures you remain Code S. | ||
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Ingruz
Italy380 Posts
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PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
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zerious
Canada3803 Posts
On January 13 2011 21:47 PartyBiscuit wrote: Haven't watched the VODs yet, but based on recommendations, Hyperdub is yet ANOTHER epic TvT!?! (so...TLO, Boxer and now MVP!) Not the kind of epic you would think | ||
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halvorg
Norway717 Posts
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noD
2230 Posts
IMMvp x second place of group a and Nestea x second place of this group ? | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
On January 13 2011 21:50 noD wrote: how are the brackets now ? IMMvp x second place of group a and Nestea x second place of this group ? Should be NesTea vs Choya MVP vs Tester Winner of C vs R/U of D Winner of D vs R/U of C ? | ||
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EchoZ
Japan5041 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9056 Posts
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palookieblue
Australia326 Posts
On January 13 2011 21:12 Benjef wrote: Yeh, that was an amazing 2nd game. And If I remember the first game was extremely close as well, so those players were very even in GSL 3. If you're comparing these two, forget that one is a Korean and the other is a 'foreigner' and base it on skill. Saying that IdrA is on the same level as MVP is laughable. MVP all-killed the top 5 zerg players in the world in the Gisado KoTH, with all of them being 2-0 except against oGsZenio, IIRC. You honestly think IdrA could do that to the top 5 Terrans in sc2? Even with favourable maps, not a chance. IdrA is a great player, but to suggest that he is on par with the elite players (such as MC, MVP or Nestea) is folly. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On January 13 2011 22:39 palookieblue wrote: If you're comparing these two, forget that one is a Korean and the other is a 'foreigner' and base it on skill. Saying that IdrA is on the same level as MVP is laughable. MVP all-killed the top 5 zerg players in the world in the Gisado KoTH, with all of them being 2-0 except against oGsZenio, IIRC. You honestly think IdrA could do that to the top 5 Terrans in sc2? Even with favourable maps, not a chance. IdrA is a great player, but to suggest that he is on par with the elite players (such as MC, MVP or Nestea) is folly. MVP has also destroyed Nestea and FD repeatedly. Perhaps it could have something to with the current state of Zerg (and maps), which you conveniently disregard | ||
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z0nk0
Belarus6 Posts
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
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zerious
Canada3803 Posts
On January 13 2011 22:46 syllogism wrote: MVP has also destroyed Nestea and FD repeatedly. Perhaps it could have something to with the current state of Zerg (and maps), which you conveniently disregard But what other terran you can say is doing the same thing? | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On January 13 2011 21:47 PartyBiscuit wrote: Haven't watched the VODs yet, but based on recommendations, Hyperdub is yet ANOTHER epic TvT!?! (so...TLO, Boxer and now MVP!) This was an epic ownage. Even more epic than how he got owned by Boxer. | ||
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palookieblue
Australia326 Posts
On January 13 2011 22:46 syllogism wrote: MVP has also destroyed Nestea and FD repeatedly. Perhaps it could have something to with the current state of Zerg (and maps), which you conveniently disregard Current state of Zerg? Way to bring balance into this. I'm glad the maps are changing as I feel larger maps encourage more diverse play. But to imply that Zerg is underpowered (you are, aren't you?) at this juncture is both hilarious and pitiful. People will say anything to take the focus off their own poor play/ the play of those in their race. Good luck with that. | ||
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Brian333
657 Posts
On January 13 2011 22:39 palookieblue wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 13 2011 21:12 Benjef wrote: Yeh, that was an amazing 2nd game. And If I remember the first game was extremely close as well, so those players were very even in GSL 3. If you're comparing these two, forget that one is a Korean and the other is a 'foreigner' and base it on skill. Saying that IdrA is on the same level as MVP is laughable. MVP all-killed the top 5 zerg players in the world in the Gisado KoTH, with all of them being 2-0 except against oGsZenio, IIRC. You honestly think IdrA could do that to the top 5 Terrans in sc2? Even with favourable maps, not a chance. IdrA is a great player, but to suggest that he is on par with the elite players (such as MC, MVP or Nestea) is folly. I see the point you are trying to make but you picked a bad way to make it. IdrA's best match-up is probably ZvT (though it might or might not be his favorite) and given favorable maps? Well who would you consider the top 5 Terrans in SC2? MVP is probably the best. Then you have MarineKing, Boxer, Nada, Jinro, Rainbow, Clide, and Ensnare (with a lot of those guys being pretty even)? On a good day, IdrA could probably take out all those guys so I don't think you help your point much with that hypothetical analysis. So yes, there is a chance. But you're right, MVP looks to be in a level above IdrA. I don't think that means IdrA would have no chance against him, though. | ||
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