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maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5757 Posts
January 13 2011 17:12 GMT
#961
On January 14 2011 01:20 ChApFoU wrote:
MVP going 3-0, no surprise. This kid is showing Flash-like dominance since the gainward tourney. To say I highly anticipate MVP vs Trickster would be an understatement ...


How can you compare MVP to Flash? O_o
fishinguy
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation798 Posts
January 13 2011 17:24 GMT
#962
On January 14 2011 02:12 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2011 01:20 ChApFoU wrote:
MVP going 3-0, no surprise. This kid is showing Flash-like dominance since the gainward tourney. To say I highly anticipate MVP vs Trickster would be an understatement ...


How can you compare MVP to Flash? O_o


MvP once took a game off Flash.

smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-13 17:53:51
January 13 2011 17:53 GMT
#963
On January 14 2011 02:24 fishinguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2011 02:12 maybenexttime wrote:
On January 14 2011 01:20 ChApFoU wrote:
MVP going 3-0, no surprise. This kid is showing Flash-like dominance since the gainward tourney. To say I highly anticipate MVP vs Trickster would be an understatement ...


How can you compare MVP to Flash? O_o


MvP once took a game off Flash.


Its kinda funny that the biggest accomplishment is him winning a bo5 against Flash. Which is huge but it tells you a lot how far ahead Flash actually is.
Fruitseller: I feel like it's a good strategy[6Pool]. I had a lot of strategies, but I thought about it a lot and decided to 6 pool. Other people told me to 6 pool too
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-13 17:55:12
January 13 2011 17:54 GMT
#964
lol at hyperdub's 5 bunkers...I can imagine marines sitting there like 'they should be coming any time now...any time...just waaaait...", "Is that them?! It's th..no, sorry mates, it's just a funny looking junk in the distance, my bad."
Mephiztopheles1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1124 Posts
January 13 2011 17:57 GMT
#965
On January 14 2011 02:53 smileyyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2011 02:24 fishinguy wrote:
On January 14 2011 02:12 maybenexttime wrote:
On January 14 2011 01:20 ChApFoU wrote:
MVP going 3-0, no surprise. This kid is showing Flash-like dominance since the gainward tourney. To say I highly anticipate MVP vs Trickster would be an understatement ...


How can you compare MVP to Flash? O_o


MvP once took a game off Flash.


Its kinda funny that the biggest accomplishment is him winning a bo5 against Flash. Which is huge but it tells you a lot how far ahead Flash actually is.


Correct if I'm wrong but I thought he only took a game off Flash who then beat him in the the three other games.

oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
January 13 2011 18:09 GMT
#966
beating flash in a single macro tvt during his run is an amazing accomplishment already.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
January 13 2011 18:09 GMT
#967
On January 14 2011 02:57 Mephiztopheles1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2011 02:53 smileyyy wrote:
On January 14 2011 02:24 fishinguy wrote:
On January 14 2011 02:12 maybenexttime wrote:
On January 14 2011 01:20 ChApFoU wrote:
MVP going 3-0, no surprise. This kid is showing Flash-like dominance since the gainward tourney. To say I highly anticipate MVP vs Trickster would be an understatement ...


How can you compare MVP to Flash? O_o


MvP once took a game off Flash.


Its kinda funny that the biggest accomplishment is him winning a bo5 against Flash. Which is huge but it tells you a lot how far ahead Flash actually is.


Correct if I'm wrong but I thought he only took a game off Flash who then beat him in the the three other games.


omg your are totally correct. Damn why the hell did I think he won vs flash lol. I mean I watched Flash in the finals. Yeah It was actually only 1 game in a bo5. :D
Time to rewatch the vods
Fruitseller: I feel like it's a good strategy[6Pool]. I had a lot of strategies, but I thought about it a lot and decided to 6 pool. Other people told me to 6 pool too
asdfTT123
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States989 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-13 18:19:11
January 13 2011 18:14 GMT
#968
On January 14 2011 02:53 smileyyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2011 02:24 fishinguy wrote:
On January 14 2011 02:12 maybenexttime wrote:
On January 14 2011 01:20 ChApFoU wrote:
MVP going 3-0, no surprise. This kid is showing Flash-like dominance since the gainward tourney. To say I highly anticipate MVP vs Trickster would be an understatement ...


How can you compare MVP to Flash? O_o


MvP once took a game off Flash.


Its kinda funny that the biggest accomplishment is him winning a bo5 against Flash. Which is huge but it tells you a lot how far ahead Flash actually is.


He never beat Flash in a BO5 - he lost 3-1. MVP was pretty mediocre at SC1 - he had <40% win rate in proleague/starleagues yet he's top tier in SC2. The same goes with Iron (oGsMC) - the kid had a 10% win-rate in broadcasted matches and now he's tearing it up in SC2. Clare[Shield] (now MarineKingPrime) was also on a BW proteam but hardly ever got a chance to play broadcasted matches - now he's also top tier SC2.

It goes to show you that SC1 is a harder game (at least mechanically) and when true top-tier BW pros transition to SC2, specifically Jaedong, Flash, Bisu/Stork then the scene is gonna get scary. Just give them a month or two... The cream of the crop talent is still playing BW...
n.Die_Jaedong <3
iloahz
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States964 Posts
January 13 2011 18:24 GMT
#969
MVP might be a mediocre sc1 player, but even then he is the best ex sc1 progamer playing sc2.
koppik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States676 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-13 18:33:52
January 13 2011 18:33 GMT
#970
Compared to MC or NesTea or Fruitdealer, MVP was a god at SC1. But we know that skill in SC1 is not necessarily the same thing as skill in SC2.
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
January 13 2011 18:33 GMT
#971
On January 14 2011 03:14 asdfTT123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2011 02:53 smileyyy wrote:
On January 14 2011 02:24 fishinguy wrote:
On January 14 2011 02:12 maybenexttime wrote:
On January 14 2011 01:20 ChApFoU wrote:
MVP going 3-0, no surprise. This kid is showing Flash-like dominance since the gainward tourney. To say I highly anticipate MVP vs Trickster would be an understatement ...


How can you compare MVP to Flash? O_o


MvP once took a game off Flash.


Its kinda funny that the biggest accomplishment is him winning a bo5 against Flash. Which is huge but it tells you a lot how far ahead Flash actually is.


He never beat Flash in a BO5 - he lost 3-1. MVP was pretty mediocre at SC1 - he had <40% win rate in proleague/starleagues yet he's top tier in SC2. The same goes with Iron (oGsMC) - the kid had a 10% win-rate in broadcasted matches and now he's tearing it up in SC2. Clare[Shield] (now MarineKingPrime) was also on a BW proteam but hardly ever got a chance to play broadcasted matches - now he's also top tier SC2.

It goes to show you that SC1 is a harder game (at least mechanically) and when true top-tier BW pros transition to SC2, specifically Jaedong, Flash, Bisu/Stork then the scene is gonna get scary. Just give them a month or two... The cream of the crop talent is still playing BW...

1
Until Flash enters his first GSL and loses in class a because this is a different game where mechanics cannot beat people who have been playing it for a year already. After time? eh.
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
January 13 2011 18:44 GMT
#972
On January 14 2011 03:24 iloahz wrote:
MVP might be a mediocre sc1 player, but even then he is the best ex sc1 progamer playing sc2.

I though july was the best ex sc1 progamer playing sc2?
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
January 13 2011 18:56 GMT
#973
On January 14 2011 03:44 HeroHenry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2011 03:24 iloahz wrote:
MVP might be a mediocre sc1 player, but even then he is the best ex sc1 progamer playing sc2.

I though july was the best ex sc1 progamer playing sc2?

Players like July, Boxer, NaDa, were legends in BW, but their actual periods of domination were a number of years prior to SC2's release. In BW, the average skill level is constantly rising, so by the time SC2 released, many old legends were unable to compete with the contemporary top players. To illustrate, before their transfer, the old legends were underdogs in BW to at least a couple dozen Proleague regulars who had nary a Starleague title to their name.

MVP allegedly has had the best BW results in recent times among BW -> SC2 pros, even though his sum accomplishments over BW history are dwarfed by those of the legends.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Pbartender
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands55 Posts
January 13 2011 19:06 GMT
#974
Just watched MVP vs. Hyperdub. Man. Brutal doesn't even describe it. Poor Hyperdub.
In my head, I'm a 1500 Diamond player. In reality, I don't even know what that means. I don't play SC2. I just watch.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
January 13 2011 19:14 GMT
#975
Hyperdub who salvage his 3 (or 4) bunkers just 3 seconds before the big protoss push <3 Nice job :d
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
January 13 2011 19:21 GMT
#976
As someone stated Nada, Boxer and July dominated along time ago, when MVP retired the game was at a completly different level. Hes prolly the best player that has transfered
Dead girls don't say no.
elementz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States281 Posts
January 13 2011 19:21 GMT
#977
It's not that the skill in BW has risen its mainly that one loses his reflexes with time, scientifically proven one loses more than 25% of their reflexes when they hit 25-30, still you are young and all and can still "compete" but in a game that has been around for 10 years and every single timing is figured out so well being 25% less than those pre 25-30, makes you automatically slow etc etc.

What GOM/GSL/SC2 are doing now is trying to get that new blood, that would have been flash's successor to become a SC2 pro-gramer instead of becoming a BW pro-gamer, which will dry out BW, whatever happens in Blizzard vS KeSPA BW will naturally die because new comers to the scene (talking about about the 10 year old that starts playing RTS) will most likely play SC2, and as SC2 is refined it will reach BW status, as well as switch over when BW dies. SC2 is better for esports because young kids are more likely to pick up SC2 than BW (BW is just ugly, I love it but the graphics are just bad, and so is it's movement mechanics--which in some weird fashion make micro harder and raise the skill-cap).
this mah s#$%$
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2983 Posts
January 13 2011 19:31 GMT
#978
On January 14 2011 02:12 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2011 01:20 ChApFoU wrote:
MVP going 3-0, no surprise. This kid is showing Flash-like dominance since the gainward tourney. To say I highly anticipate MVP vs Trickster would be an understatement ...


How can you compare MVP to Flash? O_o


I didn't want to say that MVP in SC2 = Flash in BW. I was just saying that recently, MVP was dominating in a flashesque fashion, eventhough his accomplishments in SC2 are still small compared to was Flash did in BW.

MVP is 25-6 (which makes a 80+% winrate) in professional matches and 9-1 in his last 10 games, thus having a better overall record that oGsMC who is 25-7.

Actually IMMVP is the top ELO ranked player according to the database. In 13 games played in the gainward tournament against top competition he lost only 1 game against Marine King
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
k20
Profile Joined September 2010
United States342 Posts
January 13 2011 19:35 GMT
#979
Wow IM is one stacked team. Mvp and NesTea are pretty much the best Terran and Zerg respectively in SC2.
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
January 13 2011 19:36 GMT
#980
IMMVP looks positively terrifying. MVP vs NesTea final?

Also, Cezanne taking out Loner! Didn't see that coming, well done sir.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
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