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maybenexttime
Poland5860 Posts
On January 14 2011 01:20 ChApFoU wrote: MVP going 3-0, no surprise. This kid is showing Flash-like dominance since the gainward tourney. To say I highly anticipate MVP vs Trickster would be an understatement ... How can you compare MVP to Flash? O_o | ||
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fishinguy
Russian Federation798 Posts
On January 14 2011 02:12 maybenexttime wrote: How can you compare MVP to Flash? O_o MvP once took a game off Flash. | ||
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smileyyy
Germany1816 Posts
Its kinda funny that the biggest accomplishment is him winning a bo5 against Flash. Which is huge but it tells you a lot how far ahead Flash actually is. | ||
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Odoakar
Croatia1837 Posts
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Mephiztopheles1
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On January 14 2011 02:53 smileyyy wrote: Its kinda funny that the biggest accomplishment is him winning a bo5 against Flash. Which is huge but it tells you a lot how far ahead Flash actually is. Correct if I'm wrong but I thought he only took a game off Flash who then beat him in the the three other games. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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smileyyy
Germany1816 Posts
On January 14 2011 02:57 Mephiztopheles1 wrote: Correct if I'm wrong but I thought he only took a game off Flash who then beat him in the the three other games. omg your are totally correct. Damn why the hell did I think he won vs flash lol. I mean I watched Flash in the finals. Yeah It was actually only 1 game in a bo5. :D Time to rewatch the vods | ||
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asdfTT123
United States989 Posts
On January 14 2011 02:53 smileyyy wrote: Its kinda funny that the biggest accomplishment is him winning a bo5 against Flash. Which is huge but it tells you a lot how far ahead Flash actually is. He never beat Flash in a BO5 - he lost 3-1. MVP was pretty mediocre at SC1 - he had <40% win rate in proleague/starleagues yet he's top tier in SC2. The same goes with Iron (oGsMC) - the kid had a 10% win-rate in broadcasted matches and now he's tearing it up in SC2. Clare[Shield] (now MarineKingPrime) was also on a BW proteam but hardly ever got a chance to play broadcasted matches - now he's also top tier SC2. It goes to show you that SC1 is a harder game (at least mechanically) and when true top-tier BW pros transition to SC2, specifically Jaedong, Flash, Bisu/Stork then the scene is gonna get scary. Just give them a month or two... The cream of the crop talent is still playing BW... | ||
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iloahz
United States964 Posts
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koppik
United States676 Posts
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
On January 14 2011 03:14 asdfTT123 wrote: He never beat Flash in a BO5 - he lost 3-1. MVP was pretty mediocre at SC1 - he had <40% win rate in proleague/starleagues yet he's top tier in SC2. The same goes with Iron (oGsMC) - the kid had a 10% win-rate in broadcasted matches and now he's tearing it up in SC2. Clare[Shield] (now MarineKingPrime) was also on a BW proteam but hardly ever got a chance to play broadcasted matches - now he's also top tier SC2. It goes to show you that SC1 is a harder game (at least mechanically) and when true top-tier BW pros transition to SC2, specifically Jaedong, Flash, Bisu/Stork then the scene is gonna get scary. Just give them a month or two... The cream of the crop talent is still playing BW... 1 Until Flash enters his first GSL and loses in class a because this is a different game where mechanics cannot beat people who have been playing it for a year already. After time? eh. | ||
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HeroHenry
United States1723 Posts
On January 14 2011 03:24 iloahz wrote: MVP might be a mediocre sc1 player, but even then he is the best ex sc1 progamer playing sc2. I though july was the best ex sc1 progamer playing sc2? | ||
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EchOne
United States2906 Posts
On January 14 2011 03:44 HeroHenry wrote: I though july was the best ex sc1 progamer playing sc2? Players like July, Boxer, NaDa, were legends in BW, but their actual periods of domination were a number of years prior to SC2's release. In BW, the average skill level is constantly rising, so by the time SC2 released, many old legends were unable to compete with the contemporary top players. To illustrate, before their transfer, the old legends were underdogs in BW to at least a couple dozen Proleague regulars who had nary a Starleague title to their name. MVP allegedly has had the best BW results in recent times among BW -> SC2 pros, even though his sum accomplishments over BW history are dwarfed by those of the legends. | ||
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Pbartender
Netherlands55 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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Sqq
Norway2023 Posts
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elementz
United States281 Posts
What GOM/GSL/SC2 are doing now is trying to get that new blood, that would have been flash's successor to become a SC2 pro-gramer instead of becoming a BW pro-gamer, which will dry out BW, whatever happens in Blizzard vS KeSPA BW will naturally die because new comers to the scene (talking about about the 10 year old that starts playing RTS) will most likely play SC2, and as SC2 is refined it will reach BW status, as well as switch over when BW dies. SC2 is better for esports because young kids are more likely to pick up SC2 than BW (BW is just ugly, I love it but the graphics are just bad, and so is it's movement mechanics--which in some weird fashion make micro harder and raise the skill-cap). | ||
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ChApFoU
France2984 Posts
On January 14 2011 02:12 maybenexttime wrote: How can you compare MVP to Flash? O_o I didn't want to say that MVP in SC2 = Flash in BW. I was just saying that recently, MVP was dominating in a flashesque fashion, eventhough his accomplishments in SC2 are still small compared to was Flash did in BW. MVP is 25-6 (which makes a 80+% winrate) in professional matches and 9-1 in his last 10 games, thus having a better overall record that oGsMC who is 25-7. Actually IMMVP is the top ELO ranked player according to the database. In 13 games played in the gainward tournament against top competition he lost only 1 game against Marine King | ||
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k20
United States342 Posts
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
Also, Cezanne taking out Loner! Didn't see that coming, well done sir. | ||
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