There, he owned Morrow in a macrogame. Smart of him to go all out macro after having four gated all the previous games, Morrow seemed really nervous and planted tons of spines this game.

peeeky

Canada631 Posts

January 17 2011 00:45 GMT

#622

WhiteRa has won a lot of money today, congrats! Enjoyed watching this tournament, hope there is more to come.

DarkRise

1644 Posts

January 17 2011 00:46 GMT

#623

now whose talking
white-ra can't macro??!!
Thanks white-ra, nice game

Amazing tournament, I'm looking for the next one

FrostShadow

United States335 Posts

January 17 2011 00:46 GMT

#624

I used to like whitera, but watching him play today in homestory and this shows he really just does run of the mill cheesy shit.
4-5 gate or dt rush every game of both finals. wasted 2+ hours watching it today :/ , thats totally my mistake though.

bkrow

Australia8532 Posts

January 17 2011 00:46 GMT

#625

Well played White-Ra .. nice domination :D

PlosionCornu

Italy814 Posts

January 17 2011 00:46 GMT

#626

Did they remove ultras from the game? Seriously I cannot undestand this corruptor hydra roach ball of fire that everyone is lobbing at protoss armies of death.

I'm dead serious,please enlighten me.

walklightwhat

Australia752 Posts

January 17 2011 00:46 GMT

#627

Congratulations to White-Ra. It would be awesome to see him go 3 for 3 later today.

mcc

Czech Republic4646 Posts

January 17 2011 00:46 GMT

#628

On January 17 2011 09:40 Pandain wrote:

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On January 17 2011 09:36 n0ise wrote:

On January 17 2011 09:31 Pandain wrote:

On January 17 2011 09:26 n0ise wrote:

On January 17 2011 09:25 Pandain wrote:

On January 17 2011 09:23 .Theory wrote:
What's with the 4gate QQ? They're still great games.

How are these great games?
They're only great(somewhat, SOMEWHAT) because Morrow is such a beast at defense.

And for people saying "Oh, he's playing to win", that doesn't mean people can't be dissapointed in him.

White Ra is basically saying, by 5 gating 3 times in a row(after getting totally dominated in a macro game):
"I can't win vs Morrow in a macro game."

And that's what makes me, along with other people in this thread, dissapointed with White ra and his play this series.

Cool logic. So the Zerg is free to overdrone, cos if the opponent does aggressive play, he's lame/etc/can't win in a macro game.

Anyway. Songname? ^____^

Except White Ra all ined. I mean, even a 4 gate isn't all in(which is sort of sad, but whatever.)

Even when he killed the hatch, he didn't expand. On metalopolis, he had such a lead, yet instead of expanding made a stargate. Like just very very late he did make a nexus, but just in how late it was shows it was an all in.

If he didn't kill Morrow's expo, he would've lost. Plain and simple. Same thing as you saw in game 1, in which White ra did 5 gate, failed, and lost to Morrow in the late game.

There's a difference between droning too hard and not being able to compete in a macro game. There's a HUGE differense skill wise. One is just a simple, easy mistake. The other is what defines Starcraft 2.

You didn't seem to understand my point. As stated by everyone a billion times, Morrow loves his dronies and defending with the minimum amount of resources. You can a) Play at a disadvantage and wonder why you're kinda meh in a macro game (because, again, Morrow will invest a lot of his resources in early econ) or b) try to abuse on that.

Also, you do this four games in a row, you make the Zergy more leary to overdrone, then you go for a standard macro game in game 5 on LT. Standard BO5 high-level play.

There's so much depth to this game, it's a pity people just read it as "omg he's so bad my plat buddy can do this and beat morrow".

I understand your point perfectly, I'm just stating why people are upset at Morrow. I understand its a tournament, and its very late for White Ra, I'm okay with him doing this.

But I can still be dissapointed in the play itself of White Ra. For example, theres a difference between capitalizing on knowing Morrow loves to drone hard and going 5 gate every game, then not expanding even when you kill his expo and keep trying to kill him.

There's a difference between being agressive and going all in. And just to clear things up, its not that 4 gate(and for the record White ra was going 5 gate) is all in, its not. It's that White Ra MADE it all in.

But again, I 100% understand your view, I'm just helping say why I myself am dissapointed in his play.

I hope for a better game 5

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Sorry if I exaggerated somewhat. I do that when I'm getting somewhat passionate. My point is: White ra feels, or at least this is showing, that he can't compete in a macro game WELL with Morrow. Not that he can't at all.

Last game seems to contradict you

BatCat

Austria630 Posts

January 17 2011 00:47 GMT

#629

On January 17 2011 09:46 FrostShadow wrote:
I used to like whitera, but watching him play today in homestory and this shows he really just does run of the mill cheesy shit.
4-5 gate or dt rush every game of both finals. wasted 2+ hours watching it today :/ , thats totally my mistake though.

You couldn't expect anything different in a PvP, dood. *sigh*

ParasitJonte

Sweden1768 Posts

January 17 2011 00:47 GMT

#630

On January 17 2011 09:45 TheCrow wrote:
There, he owned Morrow in a macrogame. Smart of him to go all out macro after having four gated all the previous games, Morrow seemed really nervous and planted tons of spines this game.

No he wasn't nervous....... If you want to go mutalisk without producing lots of lings you need to build spine crawlers. Also, you can use them later. Please stop blabbering out whatever appears in your head as a plausible reason.

Chicane

United States7875 Posts

January 17 2011 00:47 GMT

#631

Good game! Woo!

FliedLice

Germany7494 Posts

January 17 2011 00:48 GMT

#632

What?

The homestory was like PvP only in the end, what do you expect?

and that last game against morrow was insane by whitera

you can't be serious

Finrod1

Germany3997 Posts

January 17 2011 00:48 GMT

#633

Congratulations to White-Ra!

Redox

Germany24794 Posts

January 17 2011 00:48 GMT

#634

I dont get these posts. Is it Ra's fault that toss is that strong against zerg? Should he play bad strats to make up for that?

But tbh we can soon start to speculate which changes will come to balance this matchup.

DarkRise

1644 Posts

January 17 2011 00:48 GMT

#635

sigh
DT is a cheese??!! Do you even know what cheese is???
Good players, tournament and casters
Great event

sekritzzz

1515 Posts

January 17 2011 00:48 GMT

#636

dt is NEVER cheese wtf unless u play in pvp. Stop giving wood league whines please. Dt's alone are never supposed to win u a game unless ur opponent has a SUPER SUPER SUPER late lair or is just a dumbass terran who constantly misses scans. DTs are a harrass/map control/let u expand freely type unit.

Eggcake

Switzerland722 Posts

January 17 2011 00:48 GMT

#637

@FrostShadow
I bet my left nut that you didn't see the Homestory finals. He was defending more 4-gates than doing pushes. He dominated the tournament, he killed Morrow in two macro games, and won in 3 4-/5-Gates where Morrow didn't react accordingly due to non-existent scouting or too much droning.

Haters gonna hate

ParasitJonte

Sweden1768 Posts

January 17 2011 00:48 GMT

#638

The DTs really gave White-Ra the win in the last game. His reaction to get DT was so spot on. Morrow was so far behind after losing that third, the game was practically over.

TheCrow

Norway296 Posts

January 17 2011 00:48 GMT

#639

He doesnt exactly play run of the mill style in my opinion. WhiteRa chose DT's after he scouted the far away expo from MorroW. It was reaction play and the right decision to harass with since mutas were out.

iamke55

United States2806 Posts

January 17 2011 00:49 GMT

#640

That's nothing to do with nervousness, it's part of the lost temple muta build. If he went for roach instead, he wouldn't have made those spine crawlers.