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Yesterday greater infinity, today sqrt(5), I'm a better human being since I read GSL live report threads xD
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In order for a symbol to be meaningful it doesnt need to have a defined value, it only needs to have a use/purpose. Sadly, I don't think you understand math.
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Russian Federation122 Posts
On January 12 2011 21:45 xza wrote:
I think what Terrans Need Late Game against Toss is Lockdown from BW.
Lockdown is an offensive spell cast by the Terran Ghost which shorts out the target's circuitry, rendering it immobile for 60 seconds. During this time the unit can be attacked, repaired and destroyed, but it cannot return fire, move, or respond to any orders. Lockdown can only be cast on mechanical units (unless in Stasis).
Isnt colo mechanical? I can see 2-3 ghosts totally screwing over a few Colo and putting the terran in a massive advantage in a firefight.
Why not just give IWIN button?
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On January 12 2011 21:45 xza wrote:
I think what Terrans Need Late Game against Toss is Lockdown from BW.
Lockdown is an offensive spell cast by the Terran Ghost which shorts out the target's circuitry, rendering it immobile for 60 seconds. During this time the unit can be attacked, repaired and destroyed, but it cannot return fire, move, or respond to any orders. Lockdown can only be cast on mechanical units (unless in Stasis).
Isnt colo mechanical? I can see 2-3 ghosts totally screwing over a few Colo and putting the terran in a massive advantage in a firefight.
No, this would mean Terrans wouldn't need to go vikings against collosus, freeing up starport production.
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On January 12 2011 21:14 kmkkmk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2011 21:06 MrCon wrote:On January 12 2011 21:01 kmkkmk wrote:On January 12 2011 20:53 konaman wrote:On January 12 2011 20:51 The KY wrote:On January 12 2011 20:49 sleepingdog wrote:On January 12 2011 20:47 Ummbeefy wrote:
Tasteless screwing up so many details here. Maps, players, units, it doesn't matter this week he's got them all wrong.
Oh well, with this pace at least I'll get some more sleep than yesterday's max length games. Careful, the last time I complained about the casters, I got hated on for 3 consecutive page by all the fanboys who just "love the funny jokes" Maybe because most of us know what the maps, units and players are and understand what tastosis mean when they make a slip up so it in no way affects our enjoyment of the match? Artosis is pretty much flawless but Tasteless finds himself out of his depth left right and centre, there is also a laughable fanboyism surrounding them when anyone expresses anything other than blatant nuthugging. Tasteless gets away with his lackluster analysis of the game though because he is such a likable person. Because they both DID SHIT to back up the fanboyism, they have earned it and deserve it. That's true, but as much as I respect Artosis, as much as Tasteless lives in his glorious past. Just go watch a broodwar cast from him and compare. He had knowledge, he was funny, well, he was good at casting. Now he doesn't know the game, he's telling the same sentences over and over, he adds nothing but some funny jokes from time to time. If artosis wasn't there and he was casting alone, teamliquid would riot against gom about them hiring someone incompetent. I respected and loved tasteless a lot before, now he's just a burden with zero added value for the show. I hate to sound like a hater but that's what I feel about him, I'm sure he doesn't play the game, it's not possible. I'm sure he never talk about starcraft or play starcraft, or read about starcraft when he's not paid for it. So what? I feel that Artosis is more funny with Tasteless beside him and since they do a great job I am happy with it and complain about stuff that matters, like US wikileaks policy. Also pointing out Tasteless great achievements is no argument against him, many men have done one great thing and earned the respect the rest of their lives. I am fine with that too it seems sensible.
I understand your love for Tasteless as I used to like him a lot myself, but this is just blind fanboyism at the highest level. Winning one tournament doesn't mean you are auto-qualified for the rest of your life. Being good in the past can't guarantee your job in the future.
Tasteless is a fun, likable esport character who has contributed a lot to the development of the scene and all that, but his recent poor performance still deserves some criticisms, even more now that:
- We, SC fans, are actually paying to see him casting.
- Good Starcraft commentators are not a rare thing like it used to be a few years back. There are just so many basement commentators out there who have showed massive amount of passion and effort into getting good at the job, and would literally KILL to have the opportunity that Tasteless' enjoying for once.
- We are at the dawn of a new era in esport. The advance of the game and the progaming scene in the West is heavily relied on the people who are carrying the flag right now. Back in the SCBW GOM Classic days, if Tasteless screwed up it would hardly hurt anything. Today there are just so much more potential, hope and investment dollars at stakes. Tasteless can't treat his job like a hobby anymore (but for some reason it looks like he still does).
I don't get to listen to GSL Korean commentary except for the brief moments before an important match when they showed some highlights of the players' previous games in Korean casting. What struck me was the level of excitement - it was so much higher than the English cast, their voices hyped me so much and I don't even understand a Korean word. IMO the reason for that difference is simple and obvious - the Korean casters treat their job seriously. GSL is their career and GOM is their boss. Tasteless on the other hand never looks like he is working for GOM and is an integral part of GSL's success, but more like a backpacker who is just having fun in South Korea.
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On January 12 2011 21:54 Tirr wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2011 21:45 xza wrote:
I think what Terrans Need Late Game against Toss is Lockdown from BW.
Lockdown is an offensive spell cast by the Terran Ghost which shorts out the target's circuitry, rendering it immobile for 60 seconds. During this time the unit can be attacked, repaired and destroyed, but it cannot return fire, move, or respond to any orders. Lockdown can only be cast on mechanical units (unless in Stasis).
Isnt colo mechanical? I can see 2-3 ghosts totally screwing over a few Colo and putting the terran in a massive advantage in a firefight. Why not just give IWIN button?
i highly doubt its an iWIN button since it will increase the ever intense fight of ghosts vs high templar and whether or not the HT can feedback the ghost before he can screw the colos
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On January 12 2011 21:46 marcmtlca wrote:
sqrt(-5) has an imaginary value and there is nothing wrong in using that symbol. The term i is given to the imaginary value sqrt(-1) because in certain situations allowing for it permits you to come to results you couldn't otherwise.
To the person who was trying to act all superior and challenge the other dude on the math. I challenge you to explain to me why it is wrong to use sqrt(-5) instead of sqrt(5)i.
sqrt(-5) is wrong because sqrt() is a function defined on the interval [0;+infinity[ by the following :
if a is a number greater or equal to 0, sqrt(a) is the positive solution of the equation x² = a.
So sqrt(a) doesnt exist if a is a negative number. Which is why it's not acceptable to say that i = sqrt(-1) or sqrt(-5) = i times sqrt(5).
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On January 12 2011 21:58 xza wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2011 21:54 Tirr wrote:On January 12 2011 21:45 xza wrote:
I think what Terrans Need Late Game against Toss is Lockdown from BW.
Lockdown is an offensive spell cast by the Terran Ghost which shorts out the target's circuitry, rendering it immobile for 60 seconds. During this time the unit can be attacked, repaired and destroyed, but it cannot return fire, move, or respond to any orders. Lockdown can only be cast on mechanical units (unless in Stasis).
Isnt colo mechanical? I can see 2-3 ghosts totally screwing over a few Colo and putting the terran in a massive advantage in a firefight. Why not just give IWIN button? i highly doubt its an iWIN button since it will increase the ever intense fight of ghosts vs high templar and whether or not the HT can feedback the ghost before he can screw the colos
A tier 1.5 unit that counters all protoss tier 3. Good idea! Vikings are already more than adequate.
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Noooo, Boxer! 
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On January 12 2011 21:58 xza wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2011 21:54 Tirr wrote:On January 12 2011 21:45 xza wrote:
I think what Terrans Need Late Game against Toss is Lockdown from BW.
Lockdown is an offensive spell cast by the Terran Ghost which shorts out the target's circuitry, rendering it immobile for 60 seconds. During this time the unit can be attacked, repaired and destroyed, but it cannot return fire, move, or respond to any orders. Lockdown can only be cast on mechanical units (unless in Stasis).
Isnt colo mechanical? I can see 2-3 ghosts totally screwing over a few Colo and putting the terran in a massive advantage in a firefight. Why not just give IWIN button? i highly doubt its an iWIN button since it will increase the ever intense fight of ghosts vs high templar and whether or not the HT can feedback the ghost before he can screw the colos
One's a small unit that can cloak. The other is a ginormous unit that stands above all the other units.
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On January 12 2011 21:59 Husnan wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2011 21:46 marcmtlca wrote:
sqrt(-5) has an imaginary value and there is nothing wrong in using that symbol. The term i is given to the imaginary value sqrt(-1) because in certain situations allowing for it permits you to come to results you couldn't otherwise.
To the person who was trying to act all superior and challenge the other dude on the math. I challenge you to explain to me why it is wrong to use sqrt(-5) instead of sqrt(5)i.
sqrt(-5) is wrong because sqrt() is a function defined on the interval [0;+infinity[ by the following : if a is a number greater or equal to 0, sqrt(a) is the positive solution of the equation x² = a. So sqrt(a) doesnt exist if a is a negative number. Which is why it's not acceptable to say that i = sqrt(-1) or sqrt(-5) = i times sqrt(5).
This is completely off-topic, but you just made a huge fool of yourself. Let me guess, you just typed sqrt( ) into Google and then copy-and-pasted a description of the function for some programming language.
That doesn't mean sqrt(a) doesn't exist if a is a negative number. It's perfectly acceptable to say that i = sqrt(-1). Earlier programming languages may lack a built-in complex number class, but that doesn't mean it's mathematically incorrect.
It should be noted that mathematically, sqrt is not a function at all since there are two square roots to any number, but we are just writing it out like a function because that's a lot easier than using the radical symbol.
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On January 12 2011 21:58 mrdx wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2011 21:14 kmkkmk wrote:On January 12 2011 21:06 MrCon wrote:On January 12 2011 21:01 kmkkmk wrote:On January 12 2011 20:53 konaman wrote:On January 12 2011 20:51 The KY wrote:On January 12 2011 20:49 sleepingdog wrote:On January 12 2011 20:47 Ummbeefy wrote:
Tasteless screwing up so many details here. Maps, players, units, it doesn't matter this week he's got them all wrong.
Oh well, with this pace at least I'll get some more sleep than yesterday's max length games. Careful, the last time I complained about the casters, I got hated on for 3 consecutive page by all the fanboys who just "love the funny jokes" Maybe because most of us know what the maps, units and players are and understand what tastosis mean when they make a slip up so it in no way affects our enjoyment of the match? Artosis is pretty much flawless but Tasteless finds himself out of his depth left right and centre, there is also a laughable fanboyism surrounding them when anyone expresses anything other than blatant nuthugging. Tasteless gets away with his lackluster analysis of the game though because he is such a likable person. Because they both DID SHIT to back up the fanboyism, they have earned it and deserve it. That's true, but as much as I respect Artosis, as much as Tasteless lives in his glorious past. Just go watch a broodwar cast from him and compare. He had knowledge, he was funny, well, he was good at casting. Now he doesn't know the game, he's telling the same sentences over and over, he adds nothing but some funny jokes from time to time. If artosis wasn't there and he was casting alone, teamliquid would riot against gom about them hiring someone incompetent. I respected and loved tasteless a lot before, now he's just a burden with zero added value for the show. I hate to sound like a hater but that's what I feel about him, I'm sure he doesn't play the game, it's not possible. I'm sure he never talk about starcraft or play starcraft, or read about starcraft when he's not paid for it. So what? I feel that Artosis is more funny with Tasteless beside him and since they do a great job I am happy with it and complain about stuff that matters, like US wikileaks policy. Also pointing out Tasteless great achievements is no argument against him, many men have done one great thing and earned the respect the rest of their lives. I am fine with that too it seems sensible. I understand your love for Tasteless as I used to like him a lot myself, but this is just blind fanboyism at the highest level. Winning one tournament doesn't mean you are auto-qualified for the rest of your life. Being good in the past can't guarantee your job in the future. Tasteless is a fun, likable esport character who has contributed a lot to the development of the scene and all that, but his recent poor performance still deserves some criticisms, even more now that: - We, SC fans, are actually paying to see him casting. - Good Starcraft commentators are not a rare thing like it used to be a few years back. There are just so many basement commentators out there who have showed massive amount of passion and effort into getting good at the job, and would literally KILL to have the opportunity that Tasteless' enjoying for once. - We are at the dawn of a new era in esport. The advance of the game and the progaming scene in the West is heavily relied on the people who are carrying the flag right now. Back in the SCBW GOM Classic days, if Tasteless screwed up it would hardly hurt anything. Today there are just so much more potential, hope and investment dollars at stakes. Tasteless can't treat his job like a hobby anymore (but for some reason it looks like he still does). I don't get to listen to GSL Korean commentary except for the brief moments before an important match when they showed some highlights of the players' previous games in Korean casting. What struck me was the level of excitement - it was so much higher than the English cast, their voices hyped me so much and I don't even understand a Korean word. IMO the reason for that difference is simple and obvious - the Korean casters treat their job seriously. GSL is their career and GOM is their boss. Tasteless on the other hand never looks like he is working for GOM and is an integral part of GSL's success, but more like a backpacker who is just having fun in South Korea.
This is a great post. I more or less express the exact same sentiments. Tasteless was funny at first, but the jokes quickly got old and his lack of knowledge for the game became more and more evident with each cast. I would be outright shocked if spent even a small amount of time on the game every week.
Calling him a backpacker as opposed to someone who views it as his job is the best description I've heard of him.
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On January 12 2011 22:16 Klamity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2011 21:58 mrdx wrote:On January 12 2011 21:14 kmkkmk wrote:On January 12 2011 21:06 MrCon wrote:On January 12 2011 21:01 kmkkmk wrote:On January 12 2011 20:53 konaman wrote:On January 12 2011 20:51 The KY wrote:On January 12 2011 20:49 sleepingdog wrote:On January 12 2011 20:47 Ummbeefy wrote:
Tasteless screwing up so many details here. Maps, players, units, it doesn't matter this week he's got them all wrong.
Oh well, with this pace at least I'll get some more sleep than yesterday's max length games. Careful, the last time I complained about the casters, I got hated on for 3 consecutive page by all the fanboys who just "love the funny jokes" Maybe because most of us know what the maps, units and players are and understand what tastosis mean when they make a slip up so it in no way affects our enjoyment of the match? Artosis is pretty much flawless but Tasteless finds himself out of his depth left right and centre, there is also a laughable fanboyism surrounding them when anyone expresses anything other than blatant nuthugging. Tasteless gets away with his lackluster analysis of the game though because he is such a likable person. Because they both DID SHIT to back up the fanboyism, they have earned it and deserve it. That's true, but as much as I respect Artosis, as much as Tasteless lives in his glorious past. Just go watch a broodwar cast from him and compare. He had knowledge, he was funny, well, he was good at casting. Now he doesn't know the game, he's telling the same sentences over and over, he adds nothing but some funny jokes from time to time. If artosis wasn't there and he was casting alone, teamliquid would riot against gom about them hiring someone incompetent. I respected and loved tasteless a lot before, now he's just a burden with zero added value for the show. I hate to sound like a hater but that's what I feel about him, I'm sure he doesn't play the game, it's not possible. I'm sure he never talk about starcraft or play starcraft, or read about starcraft when he's not paid for it. So what? I feel that Artosis is more funny with Tasteless beside him and since they do a great job I am happy with it and complain about stuff that matters, like US wikileaks policy. Also pointing out Tasteless great achievements is no argument against him, many men have done one great thing and earned the respect the rest of their lives. I am fine with that too it seems sensible. I understand your love for Tasteless as I used to like him a lot myself, but this is just blind fanboyism at the highest level. Winning one tournament doesn't mean you are auto-qualified for the rest of your life. Being good in the past can't guarantee your job in the future. Tasteless is a fun, likable esport character who has contributed a lot to the development of the scene and all that, but his recent poor performance still deserves some criticisms, even more now that: - We, SC fans, are actually paying to see him casting. - Good Starcraft commentators are not a rare thing like it used to be a few years back. There are just so many basement commentators out there who have showed massive amount of passion and effort into getting good at the job, and would literally KILL to have the opportunity that Tasteless' enjoying for once. - We are at the dawn of a new era in esport. The advance of the game and the progaming scene in the West is heavily relied on the people who are carrying the flag right now. Back in the SCBW GOM Classic days, if Tasteless screwed up it would hardly hurt anything. Today there are just so much more potential, hope and investment dollars at stakes. Tasteless can't treat his job like a hobby anymore (but for some reason it looks like he still does). I don't get to listen to GSL Korean commentary except for the brief moments before an important match when they showed some highlights of the players' previous games in Korean casting. What struck me was the level of excitement - it was so much higher than the English cast, their voices hyped me so much and I don't even understand a Korean word. IMO the reason for that difference is simple and obvious - the Korean casters treat their job seriously. GSL is their career and GOM is their boss. Tasteless on the other hand never looks like he is working for GOM and is an integral part of GSL's success, but more like a backpacker who is just having fun in South Korea. This is a great post. I more or less express the exact same sentiments. Tasteless was funny at first, but the jokes quickly got old and his lack of knowledge for the game became more and more evident with each cast. I would be outright shocked if spent even a small amount of time on the game every week. Calling him a backpacker as opposed to someone who views it as his job is the best description I've heard of him.
Ehh, Imma hafta disagree. I like the chemistry that Artosis and Tasteless have together. Artosis is the knowledgeable commentor that gives viewers an indepth look at builds and strategies that occur throughout the game. Tasteless is the play-by-play guy, the color commentator. Typically the color commentator doesn't have to be as knowledgeable as the other guy whose job is to explain the more intricate details. He just has to do the play-by-play and keep the audience entertained during the lull moments of any cast.
This combination is what is prevalent through any sporting event. Go watch any professional sporting event on television and notice the roles of each commentator. To say Tasteless is a backpacker who isn't an integral part of the GSL's and Gom's success is pretty ignorant.
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It's surprising how a caster of the most prestigious tournament worldwide for SC2 does not know anything about races other than Protoss. It's gotten to the point where everytime I hear Tasteless go "oh, I think this is gg,..." I immediately think the opposite.
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On January 12 2011 22:31 DrakeFZX3 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2011 22:16 Klamity wrote:On January 12 2011 21:58 mrdx wrote:On January 12 2011 21:14 kmkkmk wrote:On January 12 2011 21:06 MrCon wrote:On January 12 2011 21:01 kmkkmk wrote:On January 12 2011 20:53 konaman wrote:On January 12 2011 20:51 The KY wrote:On January 12 2011 20:49 sleepingdog wrote:On January 12 2011 20:47 Ummbeefy wrote:
Tasteless screwing up so many details here. Maps, players, units, it doesn't matter this week he's got them all wrong.
Oh well, with this pace at least I'll get some more sleep than yesterday's max length games. Careful, the last time I complained about the casters, I got hated on for 3 consecutive page by all the fanboys who just "love the funny jokes" Maybe because most of us know what the maps, units and players are and understand what tastosis mean when they make a slip up so it in no way affects our enjoyment of the match? Artosis is pretty much flawless but Tasteless finds himself out of his depth left right and centre, there is also a laughable fanboyism surrounding them when anyone expresses anything other than blatant nuthugging. Tasteless gets away with his lackluster analysis of the game though because he is such a likable person. Because they both DID SHIT to back up the fanboyism, they have earned it and deserve it. That's true, but as much as I respect Artosis, as much as Tasteless lives in his glorious past. Just go watch a broodwar cast from him and compare. He had knowledge, he was funny, well, he was good at casting. Now he doesn't know the game, he's telling the same sentences over and over, he adds nothing but some funny jokes from time to time. If artosis wasn't there and he was casting alone, teamliquid would riot against gom about them hiring someone incompetent. I respected and loved tasteless a lot before, now he's just a burden with zero added value for the show. I hate to sound like a hater but that's what I feel about him, I'm sure he doesn't play the game, it's not possible. I'm sure he never talk about starcraft or play starcraft, or read about starcraft when he's not paid for it. So what? I feel that Artosis is more funny with Tasteless beside him and since they do a great job I am happy with it and complain about stuff that matters, like US wikileaks policy. Also pointing out Tasteless great achievements is no argument against him, many men have done one great thing and earned the respect the rest of their lives. I am fine with that too it seems sensible. I understand your love for Tasteless as I used to like him a lot myself, but this is just blind fanboyism at the highest level. Winning one tournament doesn't mean you are auto-qualified for the rest of your life. Being good in the past can't guarantee your job in the future. Tasteless is a fun, likable esport character who has contributed a lot to the development of the scene and all that, but his recent poor performance still deserves some criticisms, even more now that: - We, SC fans, are actually paying to see him casting. - Good Starcraft commentators are not a rare thing like it used to be a few years back. There are just so many basement commentators out there who have showed massive amount of passion and effort into getting good at the job, and would literally KILL to have the opportunity that Tasteless' enjoying for once. - We are at the dawn of a new era in esport. The advance of the game and the progaming scene in the West is heavily relied on the people who are carrying the flag right now. Back in the SCBW GOM Classic days, if Tasteless screwed up it would hardly hurt anything. Today there are just so much more potential, hope and investment dollars at stakes. Tasteless can't treat his job like a hobby anymore (but for some reason it looks like he still does). I don't get to listen to GSL Korean commentary except for the brief moments before an important match when they showed some highlights of the players' previous games in Korean casting. What struck me was the level of excitement - it was so much higher than the English cast, their voices hyped me so much and I don't even understand a Korean word. IMO the reason for that difference is simple and obvious - the Korean casters treat their job seriously. GSL is their career and GOM is their boss. Tasteless on the other hand never looks like he is working for GOM and is an integral part of GSL's success, but more like a backpacker who is just having fun in South Korea. This is a great post. I more or less express the exact same sentiments. Tasteless was funny at first, but the jokes quickly got old and his lack of knowledge for the game became more and more evident with each cast. I would be outright shocked if spent even a small amount of time on the game every week. Calling him a backpacker as opposed to someone who views it as his job is the best description I've heard of him. Ehh, Imma hafta disagree. I like the chemistry that Artosis and Tasteless have together. Artosis is the knowledgeable commentor that gives viewers an indepth look at builds and strategies that occur throughout the game. Tasteless is the play-by-play guy, the color commentator. Typically the color commentator doesn't have to be as knowledgeable as the other guy whose job is to explain the more intricate details. He just has to do the play-by-play and keep the audience entertained during the lull moments of any cast. This combination is what is prevalent through any sporting event. Go watch any professional sporting event on television and notice the roles of each commentator. To say Tasteless is a backpacker who isn't an integral part of the GSL's and Gom's success is pretty ignorant.
Your full post explains that tasteless could be anyone else...how can you reach the conclusion that is your last sentence ? Doesn't makes sense. When you don't agree you don't have to call people ignorant. If tasteless had never been there and mister random had been casting from the begining with artosis, you would say the exact same thing about mister random.
But the same can't be said about artosis, he brings something to the show, he has value. Tasteless only has his past.
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Tasteless is more the entertaining guy, where as artosis has more knowledge.
i couldnt imagine the GSL without an entertaining guy like Tasteless, because the games would be sooo boring. This doesn't mean that he shouldn't have more knowledge.
btw boxer failed? thats disappointing, but good thing is : he is still in code S
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On January 12 2011 22:39 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2011 22:31 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On January 12 2011 22:16 Klamity wrote:On January 12 2011 21:58 mrdx wrote:On January 12 2011 21:14 kmkkmk wrote:On January 12 2011 21:06 MrCon wrote:On January 12 2011 21:01 kmkkmk wrote:On January 12 2011 20:53 konaman wrote:On January 12 2011 20:51 The KY wrote:On January 12 2011 20:49 sleepingdog wrote:
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Careful, the last time I complained about the casters, I got hated on for 3 consecutive page by all the fanboys who just "love the funny jokes" Maybe because most of us know what the maps, units and players are and understand what tastosis mean when they make a slip up so it in no way affects our enjoyment of the match? Artosis is pretty much flawless but Tasteless finds himself out of his depth left right and centre, there is also a laughable fanboyism surrounding them when anyone expresses anything other than blatant nuthugging. Tasteless gets away with his lackluster analysis of the game though because he is such a likable person. Because they both DID SHIT to back up the fanboyism, they have earned it and deserve it. That's true, but as much as I respect Artosis, as much as Tasteless lives in his glorious past. Just go watch a broodwar cast from him and compare. He had knowledge, he was funny, well, he was good at casting. Now he doesn't know the game, he's telling the same sentences over and over, he adds nothing but some funny jokes from time to time. If artosis wasn't there and he was casting alone, teamliquid would riot against gom about them hiring someone incompetent. I respected and loved tasteless a lot before, now he's just a burden with zero added value for the show. I hate to sound like a hater but that's what I feel about him, I'm sure he doesn't play the game, it's not possible. I'm sure he never talk about starcraft or play starcraft, or read about starcraft when he's not paid for it. So what? I feel that Artosis is more funny with Tasteless beside him and since they do a great job I am happy with it and complain about stuff that matters, like US wikileaks policy. Also pointing out Tasteless great achievements is no argument against him, many men have done one great thing and earned the respect the rest of their lives. I am fine with that too it seems sensible. I understand your love for Tasteless as I used to like him a lot myself, but this is just blind fanboyism at the highest level. Winning one tournament doesn't mean you are auto-qualified for the rest of your life. Being good in the past can't guarantee your job in the future. Tasteless is a fun, likable esport character who has contributed a lot to the development of the scene and all that, but his recent poor performance still deserves some criticisms, even more now that: - We, SC fans, are actually paying to see him casting. - Good Starcraft commentators are not a rare thing like it used to be a few years back. There are just so many basement commentators out there who have showed massive amount of passion and effort into getting good at the job, and would literally KILL to have the opportunity that Tasteless' enjoying for once. - We are at the dawn of a new era in esport. The advance of the game and the progaming scene in the West is heavily relied on the people who are carrying the flag right now. Back in the SCBW GOM Classic days, if Tasteless screwed up it would hardly hurt anything. Today there are just so much more potential, hope and investment dollars at stakes. Tasteless can't treat his job like a hobby anymore (but for some reason it looks like he still does). I don't get to listen to GSL Korean commentary except for the brief moments before an important match when they showed some highlights of the players' previous games in Korean casting. What struck me was the level of excitement - it was so much higher than the English cast, their voices hyped me so much and I don't even understand a Korean word. IMO the reason for that difference is simple and obvious - the Korean casters treat their job seriously. GSL is their career and GOM is their boss. Tasteless on the other hand never looks like he is working for GOM and is an integral part of GSL's success, but more like a backpacker who is just having fun in South Korea. This is a great post. I more or less express the exact same sentiments. Tasteless was funny at first, but the jokes quickly got old and his lack of knowledge for the game became more and more evident with each cast. I would be outright shocked if spent even a small amount of time on the game every week. Calling him a backpacker as opposed to someone who views it as his job is the best description I've heard of him. Ehh, Imma hafta disagree. I like the chemistry that Artosis and Tasteless have together. Artosis is the knowledgeable commentor that gives viewers an indepth look at builds and strategies that occur throughout the game. Tasteless is the play-by-play guy, the color commentator. Typically the color commentator doesn't have to be as knowledgeable as the other guy whose job is to explain the more intricate details. He just has to do the play-by-play and keep the audience entertained during the lull moments of any cast. This combination is what is prevalent through any sporting event. Go watch any professional sporting event on television and notice the roles of each commentator. To say Tasteless is a backpacker who isn't an integral part of the GSL's and Gom's success is pretty ignorant. Your full post explains that tasteless could be anyone else...how can you reach the conclusion that is your last sentence ? Doesn't makes sense. When you don't agree you don't have to call people ignorant. If tasteless had never been there and mister random had been casting from the begining with artosis, you would say the exact same thing. But the same can't be said about artosis, he brings something to the show, he has value. Tasteless only has his past.
Because I've watched him on GOM since the SCBW days and know how much he has contributed to the Esports scene and how much of a contributing factor he was in helping Esports reach the West. To say that he's backpacking really is an insult to how much hardwork he's put in since even BEFORE SC2 has arrived. And he really is an integral part of GOM's ability to reach foreign audiences.
To really diminish his contributions because you and a few other people don't like his commentary is ignorant. If you don't like it, that's fine, but to call him a backpacker? That in and of itself is ignorant.
Not to mention there are people with different opinions. People who actually like Tasteless' commentary and his role. The thing with Esports is that, it's by guys like us who love the game, casting these games and having fun.
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I watched him too. He was good. Now he's not. But I have to like him because he was good ?
(bad is an exageration, yes, he's neutral, he could be anyone who plug sponsors, explain that the natural of xelnaga is wide open, that steppes of war is bloodbath, that the vehicule of esport is a computer and that the countdown is starting)
Now I sound like a hater >< It's not the case, I enjoy tastosis, but I would enjoy randomtosis the same I'm sure. Tasteless is the only guy of the scene who doesn't post on teamliquid. It's not surprising. He doesn't care as he cared in the bw days. And that's the point.
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Tester's unbeatable pylon block PvZ continues. Well, I don't know what to say. Congrats Tester and NesTea. But, I still hope that someone crushes Tester any time soon.
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now we know y  TesteR doesnt qualify for GSL twice and we should be glad he dint.... if not we would've seen this in the last 2 GSLs too. i thought he was such a good player during beta but now, i lost all respect on him.... so terrible
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EPT
