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Casta
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark234 Posts
January 05 2011 12:36 GMT
#1181
Why are they talking like scrapstation is a map where 4 gate is so strong. Isn't it equally strong on all maps since distance don't matter on warpins?

I am not a protoss player, just asking.
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
January 05 2011 12:36 GMT
#1182
The HQ seems to be working now that the LQ is screwing up o-0
nbMifu
Profile Joined January 2010
Brazil170 Posts
January 05 2011 12:36 GMT
#1183
There must be a way to hold the 4 gate on scrap....
Don't you guys thing the Immortal should not have been canceled? It would probably be sniped because it is slower thans the stalkers, but it was already on the way.
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle - Plato
KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
January 05 2011 12:37 GMT
#1184
For those who are having issues with the stream, just close the player and start it again. O_O
proxY_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1561 Posts
January 05 2011 12:37 GMT
#1185
You have to go four gate on a map like scrap because of the wide ramp, just the way it is. You might be able to get away with 3 gate robo on a map where you can forcefield the ramp and have time to get an immortal out but generally it just seems like a four gate will win every time. The matchup is almost as stupid as zvz.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
January 05 2011 12:37 GMT
#1186
On January 05 2011 21:36 ikjZILTOID wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2011 21:34 Pudge_172 wrote:
Stream failing for anyone else?



It is for me


same, reloads it, works for 5 sec, repeats

seems to work now, E-han-timing
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
raidmaster
Profile Joined July 2010
474 Posts
January 05 2011 12:37 GMT
#1187
On January 05 2011 21:34 Vorenius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2011 21:31 raidmaster wrote:
PvP is the most retarded match-up ever. Coinflip all the way.

It's not a coinflip. He could have just went for a 4gate and he would have been fine. Going 4gate isn't an auto-lose versus any certain BO. But NOT going 4gate is.


I was actually reffering to situations where one player don't lose because of build order, like Kisu did. 4 gate vs 4 gate is not a coinflip? Stalkers attacking Stalkers with zealots running around.
chboing
Profile Joined October 2010
France35 Posts
January 05 2011 12:37 GMT
#1188
they're trying to fix the streaming probably ....
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
January 05 2011 12:37 GMT
#1189
On January 05 2011 21:36 Casta wrote:
Why are they talking like scrapstation is a map where 4 gate is so strong. Isn't it equally strong on all maps since distance don't matter on warpins?

I am not a protoss player, just asking.

It's the ramp size. Too big for forcefields.
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ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
January 05 2011 12:37 GMT
#1190
back up.
KCCO!
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
January 05 2011 12:37 GMT
#1191
On January 05 2011 21:36 Casta wrote:
Why are they talking like scrapstation is a map where 4 gate is so strong. Isn't it equally strong on all maps since distance don't matter on warpins?

I am not a protoss player, just asking.



The ramp is really wide I guess.
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
January 05 2011 12:37 GMT
#1192
Stream is really screwy today
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
January 05 2011 12:37 GMT
#1193
Just hoping tester get through, however TvP is gonna be rough.
Chicken gank op
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
January 05 2011 12:37 GMT
#1194
how do they place 1st 2nd 3rd 4th now with 2 guys at 2:1 and 2 at 1:2, direct comparison?
nbMifu
Profile Joined January 2010
Brazil170 Posts
January 05 2011 12:37 GMT
#1195
On January 05 2011 21:36 Casta wrote:
Why are they talking like scrapstation is a map where 4 gate is so strong. Isn't it equally strong on all maps since distance don't matter on warpins?

I am not a protoss player, just asking.


Scrap station's wider ramp makes it harder to use force fields to hold a 4gate
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle - Plato
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
January 05 2011 12:38 GMT
#1196
So if he got that immortal out would that have been a different story?
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
Deleted User 124618
Profile Joined November 2010
1142 Posts
January 05 2011 12:38 GMT
#1197
On January 05 2011 21:37 raidmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2011 21:34 Vorenius wrote:
On January 05 2011 21:31 raidmaster wrote:
PvP is the most retarded match-up ever. Coinflip all the way.

It's not a coinflip. He could have just went for a 4gate and he would have been fine. Going 4gate isn't an auto-lose versus any certain BO. But NOT going 4gate is.


I was actually reffering to situations where one player don't lose because of build order, like Kisu did. 4 gate vs 4 gate is not a coinflip? Stalkers attacking Stalkers with zealots running around.


And THAT is where player with better micro/army composition wins.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
January 05 2011 12:38 GMT
#1198
On January 05 2011 21:36 Casta wrote:
Why are they talking like scrapstation is a map where 4 gate is so strong. Isn't it equally strong on all maps since distance don't matter on warpins?

I am not a protoss player, just asking.


It's the wide ramp, on other maps you can forcefield it easily, on this map you need at least 2 perfect FFs I think
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Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
January 05 2011 12:38 GMT
#1199
On January 05 2011 21:36 nbMifu wrote:
There must be a way to hold the 4 gate on scrap....
Don't you guys thing the Immortal should not have been canceled? It would probably be sniped because it is slower thans the stalkers, but it was already on the way.


I wouldn't have canceled personally- immortals are great and if for no other reason than to allow myself more time (it would force some focus fire from the stalkers, giving me a little more time to micro against the zealots).

SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
January 05 2011 12:38 GMT
#1200
On January 05 2011 21:36 Casta wrote:
Why are they talking like scrapstation is a map where 4 gate is so strong. Isn't it equally strong on all maps since distance don't matter on warpins?

I am not a protoss player, just asking.


The ramp is massive, not easy to wall and sentries can't FF it off like you can on maps with a narrow choke.
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