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HomeStoryCup II 15/16.01 - Page 101

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sanctuz
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway184 Posts
January 15 2011 18:30 GMT
#2001
Is the stream still b0rked or am I the one having problems now ?
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
January 15 2011 18:30 GMT
#2002
On January 16 2011 03:26 vdale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 03:23 TBO wrote:
its obviously a hard call, both options are not optimal, either TLO gets an unfair advantage or Morrow gets a freewin which is sort of unfair as well (I'm inclined to say: less than giving TLO another chance.

I mean when there is qualifiers and people can't make it - it is common that there are replacements both in e-sports and regular sports (see Eurocup 1992 denmark being eliminated in qualifiers but replace Yugoslavia and win the tournament).

You can make the point that a qualifier is different from the main tournament, however its still connected in the end and people who replace other players in qualifiers is common and not seen unfair despite giving them an advantage while doing the same in the main tournament is somewhat perceived as unfair...

In the end it is the decision of the admins and if there is no rule about it yet, they should add a clear rule to handle this things consistently in the future.


That's a good example.


It's kinda not....Tarson was supposed to play but couldn't and was therefore replaced by Adelscott. If there "were" qualifiers were Tarson "had" beat Adelscott, then this would be the example mentioned here.

But in the "actual" tournament this is not how it works, sorry but no.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 15 2011 18:31 GMT
#2003
On January 16 2011 03:29 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 03:27 Frankon wrote:
PS.LOL at Take...
"We have lots of time tomorrow so we can show some games then...."

15 minutes after he told BratOK that there wont be any games moved to tommorow.

Ya, I noticed that too.


Yea after I heard that I posted why they couldn't postpone Bratok games. Seems really dodgy.
bay_2002
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany105 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 18:32:54
January 15 2011 18:31 GMT
#2004
On January 16 2011 03:28 affenjunge wrote:
maybe morrow should spend less time on whining in forums and play some practise games...


Maybe you should stop acting like a fanboy and ashame us germans, cause you are the only one whining here.

I am German too and i love TLO, but it isn´t the right decision.
FrostShadow
Profile Joined August 2010
United States335 Posts
January 15 2011 18:31 GMT
#2005
On January 16 2011 03:29 Alphaes wrote:
Haha, I like how this has started becoming a Germany vs Sweden mudslinging contest. Not gonna bother to add more to this - Morrow will probably win anyways, and that'll be that.


I agree. I dont think the players are what matter, its just that tlo is given an unfair advantage by being let back in after he was out, which no one else will get.
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
January 15 2011 18:32 GMT
#2006
hahahaha "why would you join and lag". yeah, why would someone do this. Unbelievable ^^
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
January 15 2011 18:32 GMT
#2007
On January 16 2011 03:31 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 03:29 Holgerius wrote:
On January 16 2011 03:27 Frankon wrote:
PS.LOL at Take...
"We have lots of time tomorrow so we can show some games then...."

15 minutes after he told BratOK that there wont be any games moved to tommorow.

Ya, I noticed that too.


Yea after I heard that I posted why they couldn't postpone Bratok games. Seems really dodgy.

exactly

nice sportsmanship

lolz ...
T H C makes ppl happy
arctics86
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany797 Posts
January 15 2011 18:33 GMT
#2008
On January 16 2011 03:29 TBO wrote:
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On January 16 2011 03:28 Stoffelhase wrote:
when at tennis a player gets injured between games his next opponent (morrow) gets a freewin... its not giving the already-out player a new chance to win a tournament where he was already out..... :/ well its take.. he just does things before overthinking them...


What happens if the player wins the game but gets injured before he signs all this official paper stuff and decides to not sign them? (I'm no tennis expert but I know that in most sports you have to sign some papers to confirm official match results)


Well there a no official papers here (or are there?)

sunnata
Profile Joined February 2008
Russian Federation228 Posts
January 15 2011 18:33 GMT
#2009
Guys, maybe BratOK said that he can't play toMorroW :p? Haven't TaKe cleared out situation to watchers/community?
Only way to know the future is to make it.
Eggcake
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland722 Posts
January 15 2011 18:33 GMT
#2010
On January 16 2011 03:32 DoXa wrote:
hahahaha "why would you join and lag". yeah, why would someone do this. Unbelievable ^^


Yeah why does he lag wtf.

No but actually, why is there a second observer when they have so much problems with lagging...
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
January 15 2011 18:33 GMT
#2011
On January 16 2011 03:31 FrostShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 03:29 Alphaes wrote:
Haha, I like how this has started becoming a Germany vs Sweden mudslinging contest. Not gonna bother to add more to this - Morrow will probably win anyways, and that'll be that.


I agree. I dont think the players are what matter, its just that tlo is given an unfair advantage by being let back in after he was out, which no one else will get.

I don't think anyone is hating on TLO, it wasn't his call after all. But the tournament just turned real dodgy. And I'm not fanboying due to nationalities, hell, I'm rooting more for Socke (sorry MorroW). This shit is just really, really bloody stupid.
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
January 15 2011 18:33 GMT
#2012
On January 16 2011 03:29 vyyye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 03:27 TBO wrote:
On January 16 2011 03:25 vyyye wrote:
On January 16 2011 03:23 TBO wrote:
its obviously a hard call, both options are not optimal, either TLO gets an unfair advantage or Morrow gets a freewin which is sort of unfair as well (I'm inclined to say: less than giving TLO another chance.

I mean when there is qualifiers and people can't make it - it is common that there are replacements both in e-sports and regular sports (see Eurocup 1992 denmark being eliminated in qualifiers but replace Yugoslavia and win the tournament).

You can make the point that a qualifier is different from the main tournament, however its still connected in the end and people who replace other players in qualifiers is common and not seen unfair despite giving them an advantage while doing the same in the main tournament is somewhat perceived as unfair...

In the end it is the decision of the admins and if there is no rule about it yet, they should add a clear rule to handle this things consistently in the future.

But there is a rule about it. If you lose a BO3 in the loser's bracket you are eliminated from the tournament. That's it, period. There is no rule saying that if the player you played against leaves you get a second chance.


I don't know how it is done in this specific cup but in an online tournament Brat_Ok would need to report the game if he doesn't he does not get the win and is counted as non present.

Technicalities. I don't think anyone can argue that his win isn't valid, as it was casted and all.


I think BratOK would feel pretty bad winning against TLO only to kick him out of the tournament and give Morrow a freewin.

The admins makes the rules, there are no strict rules for all tournaments. MLG is the only tournament with extended series for example.
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
January 15 2011 18:33 GMT
#2013
The best way to deal with this is have the rules ready before the tournament and if someone doesnt accept this, he shouldnt apply. However, if they do not have a rule for this, the admin has the right to decide. I also understand the decision. They want a lot of games to be casted and have TLO in the room. Obviously, it is not a good decision for Morrow.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 15 2011 18:33 GMT
#2014
I also think Morrow should get the free win.

But I dont think he has much reason to whine as a free win never is a deserved thing. And TLO is still easier to beat then Bratok. But if Morrow has a problem with the decision he should just talk to Take and the responsible admin, but not complain on a forum.
Off-season = best season
FrostShadow
Profile Joined August 2010
United States335 Posts
January 15 2011 18:33 GMT
#2015
What if TLO beats MorroW, then TLO has to leave the tournament. Then MorroW is let back in, but Brat_Ok announces he can play again?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 18:34:31
January 15 2011 18:33 GMT
#2016
On January 16 2011 03:32 Sinedd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 03:31 Numy wrote:
On January 16 2011 03:29 Holgerius wrote:
On January 16 2011 03:27 Frankon wrote:
PS.LOL at Take...
"We have lots of time tomorrow so we can show some games then...."

15 minutes after he told BratOK that there wont be any games moved to tommorow.

Ya, I noticed that too.


Yea after I heard that I posted why they couldn't postpone Bratok games. Seems really dodgy.

exactly

nice sportsmanship

lolz ...


I mean Take and everyone there are awesome and really enjoying this tournament. Props to everyone involved but I can't help having this very bad sinking feeling about this TLO thing. Tech stuff was unfortunate but didn't give this feeling. This "something just went horribly wrong" feeling.
grandmoose
Profile Joined April 2010
United States160 Posts
January 15 2011 18:33 GMT
#2017
I like how tod calls creep blight lol.
not really a moose
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
January 15 2011 18:33 GMT
#2018
The players seem to get really angry when someone is lagging. I know it is annoying as hell but i mean TaKe and whoever is working with him made this tournament happen which is quite incredible so i would think they would be a bit more patient and happy that they can actually play in a tournament with really good prizes.
Gr33d
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany423 Posts
January 15 2011 18:34 GMT
#2019
On January 16 2011 03:31 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 03:29 Holgerius wrote:
On January 16 2011 03:27 Frankon wrote:
PS.LOL at Take...
"We have lots of time tomorrow so we can show some games then...."

15 minutes after he told BratOK that there wont be any games moved to tommorow.

Ya, I noticed that too.


Yea after I heard that I posted why they couldn't postpone Bratok games. Seems really dodgy.


I guess because it is not only the Bratok/Morrow game that has to be postponed. If you start one game late, the whole Loserbracket has to wait
Fanatics find their heaven in never ending storming wind || Auguries of destruction be a lullaby for rebirth
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
January 15 2011 18:34 GMT
#2020
On January 16 2011 03:33 sunnata wrote:
Guys, maybe BratOK said that he can't play toMorroW :p?


hahaha ^^

anyway stop crying, whining and flamming and just let it go, what's done is done, im just happy that the stream seems to work great now
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
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