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Update:
On December 16 2010 21:12 GOMTV wrote:
This information was taken down on our website because there is some issues still to be confirmed. Also the confirmed version of this information will be announced at our finals this Saturday. We will post the new version of this information on our GOMtv.net website after the finals. Thank you for your support and sorry for the confusion.
Sounds to me like they'll just do some small changes. But can't wait to see the announcement on Saturday.
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I'm quite curious why there is no thread about this on TL yet (or was it deleted?)...
So, this morning I was lucky enough to see a 2011 GSL Tour News on gomtv.net, which was again offline just some minutes later. Probably cuz they wanted to announce it later (@ GSL3 finals?) and the news was just accidentally visible?
Anyways, topic of the news: The GSL 2011 tournaments!
And although it might not be official yet or GOMtv is still making changes... Here are the cliffnotes:
- 10 Tournaments + 1 Team Event
- $1.22 Million (1,415,400,000 Won) prize money in total
For the German readers: I posted a longer news about it on inStarCraft.de
And this is the original news from gomtv.net:
+ Show Spoiler +2011 GSL Tour
Code S : 32 players ranked from 1~32
Code A : 32 players ranked from 33~64(4 recommended foreign players will be seeded, mainly winners of other worldwide tournaments)
Code B : 172 players that are not in Code S or Code A and are the top ranked players from the Diamond League in the Korean Battle.net server. (Foreign players can always compete in the Preliminary Rounds for Code A disregarding their ladder point.)
Interaction between Code A and Code S : Up and Down matches
Interaction between Code B and Code A : Preliminary Rounds for Code A
Point Ranking
- Every players start at 0 from the start of 2011.
- Points are given to players after each tournament depending on each players results
- Points are accumulated as the years go by, but for Blizzard Cup and World Championship only the points from that year are applied.
Leagues of 2011 GSL Tour
1. GSL Sponsorship League
2. Super Tournament
3. World Championship
4. GSTL(tentative name)
5. Blizzard Cup
1) GSL Sponsorship League (7 tournaments a year)
Code S
- Ro32 ~ Ro16 Group League
- The 32 highest ranking players of 2010 will be divided into 8 groups of 4.
- The players in each group will play one another and the 1st and 2nd place players will advance to Ro16. (The 3rd and 4th player will have to play in the ‘Up and Down Match’.)
- Ro8 ~ Finals Tournament (Ro8 : best of 3, Semifinals : best of 5, Finals : best of 7)
- One group will play each day.
- Players who advance to Ro16 will remain in Code S.
- The 16 players who fail to qualify for Ro16 will have to play in the ‘Up and Down Match’
- The group will be determined by a public lottery which will be held on the following Monday of each GSL Sponsorship League.
Code A
- Ro32 Full Tournament
- Ro32 ~ Ro16 : Single Game, Ro8 ~ Semifinals : Best of 3, Finals : Best of 7
- 4 recommended foreign players will be seeded(Mainly winners of other worldwide tournaments)
- If there are no recommended foreign players, more players will be brought in through the Preliminary Rounds for Code A.
- Players who advance to Ro8 will play in the ‘Up and Down Match’
- Players who advance to Ro16 will remain in Code A.
- Players who fail to qualify for Ro16 will have to go through the Preliminary Rounds for Code A.
Code B
- 172 players that are not in Code S or Code A and are the top ranked players from the Diamond League in the Korean Battle.net server. (Foreign players can always compete in the Preliminary Rounds for Code A disregarding their ladder point.)
- They will play in the Preliminary rounds for Code A.
Up and Down Matches
- Bottom 16 players from Code S and the top 8 players from Code A will compete.
- There will be 8 groups of 3. (2 Code S players and 1 Code A players per group.)
- Champion and the runner-up of the Code A tournament gets to pick their group, the rest of the groups will be randomly selected.
- The 3rd place player from the group league of Code S will play the Code A player in a best of 3 matches. (Winner will be in Code S.)
- The loser of the match will play the 4th place player from the group league of Code S in a best of 3 matches.
- So if you are the 4th place player of each group from the group league of Code S, you only have one opportunity to remain in Code S.
Preliminary Rounds for Code A
- Bottom 16 players of Code A, 172 players from Code B and 4 recommended foreign players will compete. (192 players tournament)
- The top 12 players from the tournament will compete in the following Code A tournament.
- Registration for the Preliminary Rounds for Code A will start a week before each Preliminary Rounds.
2) Super Tournament (1 tournament a year in May)
- Ro64 Full Tournament (Code S 32 + Code A 32)
- Only tournament of the year when all the players from Code S and A compete against each other.
- Same format as the GSL Pre-Season Tournaments.
- Ro64 ~ Ro16 : best of 3, Ro8 ~ Semifinals : best of 5, Finals : best of 7
3) World Championship (1 tournament a year in September) – Invitational
- We invite the best players from all around the world to compete in a Ro16 tournament.
- 2 players from North America, 2 from Europe, 2 from Taiwan, 2 from China and 8 players from Korea will compete.
- The Korean players will be the top 8 players of the point ranking accumulated up to that month.
4) GSTL (Global SC II Team League) - tentative name
- 8 teams will participate in the tournament
- 8 teams will be selected by the added points of their team members in Code S and Code A.
- Two teams will match up and two players from each team will play against each other one by one and the winner will continue playing while the loser gets replaced.
- Ro8 ~ Semifinals : first to reach 3 wins, Finals, first to reach 5 wins
5) Blizzard Cup (1 tournament a year in December) – Invitational
- The top 10 players of the point ranking of that year will play in a play-off type tournament.
- Day 1 : 10th place vs. 9th place, Day 2 : Winner vs. 8th place and so on.
- There will be 1 best of 7 matches a day
Prize money
Code S
Ro32(16 players) : 1,500,000won each
Ro16(8 players) : 2,000,000won each
Ro8(4 players) : 3,000,000won each
Semifinals(2 players) : 5,000,000won each
Runner-up : 20,000,000won
Champion : 50,000,000won
Code A
Ro32(16 players) : 200,000won each
Ro16(8 players) : 400,000won each
Ro8(4 players) : 600,000won each
Semifinals(2 players) : 800,000won each
Runner-up : 1,000,000won
Champion : 1,500,000won
Super Tournament
Ro32(16 players) : 1,000,000won each
Ro16(8 players) : 2,000,000won each
Ro8(4 players) : 5,000,000won each
Semifinals(2 players) : 10,000,000won each
Runner-up : 30,000,000won
Champion : 100,000,000won
World Championship
Ro16(8 players) : 3,000,000won each
Ro8(4 players) : 5,000,000won each
Semifinals(2 players) : 10,000,000won each
Runner-up : 15,000,000won
Champion : 30,000,000won
GSTL
Second Place : 5,000,000won
First Place : 10,000,000won
Blizzard Cup
10th place : 1,500,000won
9th place : 3,000,000won
8th place : 5,000,000won
7th place : 7,000,000won
6th place : 9,000,000won
5th place : 12,000,000won
4th place : 15,000,000won
3rd place : 20,000,000won
Runner-up : 30,000,000won
Champion : 50,000,000won
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Now this is infusing cash into starcraft!
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Interesting, we only knew the stuff about the Sponsorship league. Teamleague is a little lackluster, if it's just a 8-team playoff. Looks like they chose winners' league format just like they had for that team invitational a couple months ago. Blizzard cup format is interesting too, most similar to the STX team cup except individual. Anybody who battles their way through the gauntlet is definitely going to deserve it, and there's a huge advantage to coming in with a high seed.
One other thing - i thought the foreigners were going to get straight into code A but I guess they just get the opportunity to fight against 192 others to get code A. Although the numbers don't really match up - based on their numbers (172, 16, and 12) It does seem to me as though those four foreigners will get directly in. so I guess further clarification is needed.
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The foreigner thing actually confuses me quite a bit, too.
Cuz they say: 4 foreigners in Code A Preliminary - but they as well say that just Top 12 from the Preliminary get Code A (which still sounds like the other 4 spots go to foreigners)
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someone is gona become a millionaire
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Does anyone know anything about how many times the team league will be run in 2011?
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4 foreigners who won global tournaments get spots into Code A.
4 foreigners recommended (don't know how) at this point get to play in the 192 player Code B prelims EVEN if their ladder rankings don't qualify.
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The invite slots for the "World Championship" are a bit disappointing from a Western perspective.
2 slots for Europe, 2 for North America and 12 for Asia... I mean, come on... that's hardly a world championship...
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On December 16 2010 09:52 ch33psh33p wrote:
4 foreigners who won global tournaments get spots into Code A.
4 foreigners recommended (don't know how) at this point get to play in the 192 player Code B prelims EVEN if their ladder rankings don't qualify.
Could be, buuut... at the top it says: "Foreign players can always compete in the Preliminary Rounds for Code A disregarding their ladder point."
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It looks like there's a Code A tournament completely separate from Code S players where all the Code A players compete, with 4 foreigner spots guaranteed, by my interpretation.
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holy shit.
Good that they are making the trip to korea worth it for the foreigners
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Probably just a typo or translation error then. But it seems for sure 4 recommended foreigners will get to be in Code A, as only 12 are taking from the Code B tournies. 16-12 = 4!
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shame Code A tourney has such shitty prizemoney.
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On December 16 2010 09:53 Stratchka wrote:
The invite slots for the "World Championship" are a bit disappointing from a Western perspective.
2 slots for Europe, 2 for North America and 12 for Asia... I mean, come on... that's hardly a world championship...
True, but I think we should be thankful that they do something like this at all. For GOMtv it's still about satisfying the Korean customers - and I could imagine that they want to see their local heroes and not "these foreigners".
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On December 16 2010 09:35 Antoine wrote:
One other thing - i thought the foreigners were going to get straight into code A but I guess they just get the opportunity to fight against 192 others to get code A. Although the numbers don't really match up - based on their numbers (172, 16, and 12) It does seem to me as though those four foreigners will get directly in. so I guess further clarification is needed.
I think the 4 spots for foreigners still apply for Code A. They previously mentioned that prelims will be based off KR ladder so I think the additional slots provide opportunities for foreigners who don't currently reside in Korea or play on KR ladder (and who are not invited straight into Code A). This is just my understanding of the situation and considering they removed the post on the gomtv website, details are not finalised.
On December 16 2010 10:00 havox_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 09:53 Stratchka wrote:
The invite slots for the "World Championship" are a bit disappointing from a Western perspective.
2 slots for Europe, 2 for North America and 12 for Asia... I mean, come on... that's hardly a world championship... True, but I think we should be thankful that they do something like this at all. For GOMtv it's still about satisfying the Korean customers - and I could imagine that they want to see their local heroes and not "these foreigners".
Players from Taiwan and China are foreigners as well, so I guess in the eyes of organisers it's even at 8 each (8 Foreigners / 8 Koreans). Sure, it would nice if there was representation from South America/SEA. They will most likely pair up a Korean player and Foreign player for the brackets???
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On December 16 2010 09:57 Subversion wrote:
shame Code A tourney has such shitty prizemoney.
Considering its bigger than everything outside of MLG / IEM, its still decent.
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On December 16 2010 10:02 ch33psh33p wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 09:57 Subversion wrote:
shame Code A tourney has such shitty prizemoney. Considering its bigger than everything outside of MLG / IEM, its still decent.
Exactly what I thought, but you don't hear anyone complaining about the foreign tournaments.
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On December 16 2010 10:00 havox_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 09:53 Stratchka wrote:
The invite slots for the "World Championship" are a bit disappointing from a Western perspective.
2 slots for Europe, 2 for North America and 12 for Asia... I mean, come on... that's hardly a world championship... True, but I think we should be thankful that they do something like this at all. For GOMtv it's still about satisfying the Korean customers - and I could imagine that they want to see their local heroes and not "these foreigners".
Maybe... but I don't see why they wouldn't be more interested in a world championship with a few korean heroes representing their country than in 'just another korean tournament' (only with weaker opponents at the beginning  )
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Wow, this is pretty insane. So much SC2 o.O
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
There is certainly a lot going on and the prize money is great. 2011 is going to be a great year for SC2 and esports in general.
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Have they made any further announcements about how the foreigner places will work?
For example, in code A with 4 foreigners being included does that mean that Ret would take up a foreigner place, or one of the existing places with another +4 foreigners included?
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5) Blizzard Cup (1 tournament a year in December) – Invitational
- The top 10 players of the point ranking of that year will play in a play-off type tournament.
- Day 1 : 10th place vs. 9th place, Day 2 : Winner vs. 8th place and so on.
- There will be 1 best of 7 matches a day
So they're trying to give the 1st place player a free tournament win? If I understand this correctly,
10th place player will have to win 9 Best of 7's to win the Tournament (which is ridiculous)
9th place player will have to win 9 Best of 7's to win the tournament
8th place player will have to win 8 Best of 7's to win the Tournament
7th place player will have to win 7 Best of 7's to win the Tournament
(... etc. etc...)
2nd place player will have to win 2 Best of 7's to win the Tournament
1st place player will have to win only 1 Best of 7 to win the Tournament and is guaranteed at least second place.
Or am I not getting it?
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- 8 teams will be selected by the added points of their team members in Code S and Code A.
Is Liquid sure they don't want Idra?
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So if a code S player doesnt get past the Ro32...they get no money?
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On December 16 2010 10:43 krazymunky wrote:
So if a code S player doesnt get past the Ro32...they get no money?
Ro32(16 players) : 1,500,000won each
... no.
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On December 16 2010 10:45 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 10:43 krazymunky wrote:
So if a code S player doesnt get past the Ro32...they get no money? ... no.
oops i meant if a Code S player doesnt get past the group stage or reach the Ro32.
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It's 32 Code S players... So they all start in the group phase, which is Ro32 - and therefore get money.
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hmm maybe i was just confused by the "(16 Players)" part.
edit//lol nvm im just being stupid. the other 16 advance so they will get more $$$
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On December 16 2010 10:41 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +- 8 teams will be selected by the added points of their team members in Code S and Code A. Is Liquid sure they don't want Idra?
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This was mentioned in Jinro's latest interview (pretty sure it was him) that they wouldn't have enough players to play anyways, so they may join with oGs- in which case they would have plenty of points anyhow.
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Yeah seems you'll get decent money for just being in the Code S tourny, but naturally if you do lose early you'll end up playing for your Code S place vs the top players in Code A and if you go down you'll make quite a bit less next time out (unless you win Code A etc).
Basically getting promoted from Code A seems like it'll offer a solid financial boost, since you can look at promotion up to Code S as essentially the same as winning the Code A tourny in terms of guaranteed payout.
It looks pretty awesome tbh, I hope they can afford it and that it captures a decent audience =D
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On December 16 2010 10:29 Kazzabiss wrote:Show nested quote +5) Blizzard Cup (1 tournament a year in December) – Invitational
- The top 10 players of the point ranking of that year will play in a play-off type tournament.
- Day 1 : 10th place vs. 9th place, Day 2 : Winner vs. 8th place and so on.
- There will be 1 best of 7 matches a day So they're trying to give the 1st place player a free tournament win? If I understand this correctly, 10th place player will have to win 9 Best of 7's to win the Tournament (which is ridiculous) 9th place player will have to win 9 Best of 7's to win the tournament 8th place player will have to win 8 Best of 7's to win the Tournament 7th place player will have to win 7 Best of 7's to win the Tournament (... etc. etc...) 2nd place player will have to win 2 Best of 7's to win the Tournament 1st place player will have to win only 1 Best of 7 to win the Tournament and is guaranteed at least second place. Or am I not getting it?
vouch. exactly my thoughts. its quite obvious that they want to make the blizzard cup the "king of cups", but this format is just totally retarded. basically, only the top5 have any chance of winning this. oh, and what if there are ties in the points accumulated? if for example the 2nd and 3rd place are tied in points, they´d have to play a preliminary seeding match for the blizzard cup which greatly affects the chances of winning it.
and id also like to know an answer to the question if the 4 foreigner spots in code A will be including or excluding foreigners who already qualified through the ordinary way. ie, does ret count as one of those 4 spots or not?
but in general the schedule looks very nice and interesting. great that blizz is pumping so much money into sc2 to get it started as an e-sport. what i dont like though is that they implicitly have accepted korea as the undisputed center of the sc2 esports scene for some time. this can be seen for example in the foreigner rule and by the fact that 8 koreans come to the world championships, while none of LA and SEA are invited.
btw if im not mistaken, the payout schedule means that code S players are guaranteed a monthly income of around 1.3k $ a month. thats not too bad.
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On December 16 2010 10:29 Kazzabiss wrote:Show nested quote +5) Blizzard Cup (1 tournament a year in December) – Invitational
- The top 10 players of the point ranking of that year will play in a play-off type tournament.
- Day 1 : 10th place vs. 9th place, Day 2 : Winner vs. 8th place and so on.
- There will be 1 best of 7 matches a day So they're trying to give the 1st place player a free tournament win? If I understand this correctly, 10th place player will have to win 9 Best of 7's to win the Tournament (which is ridiculous) 9th place player will have to win 9 Best of 7's to win the tournament 8th place player will have to win 8 Best of 7's to win the Tournament 7th place player will have to win 7 Best of 7's to win the Tournament (... etc. etc...) 2nd place player will have to win 2 Best of 7's to win the Tournament 1st place player will have to win only 1 Best of 7 to win the Tournament and is guaranteed at least second place. Or am I not getting it?
Yeah that's pretty bad they should do top 8 single elim Bo7 all the way.
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On December 16 2010 11:00 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 10:29 Kazzabiss wrote:5) Blizzard Cup (1 tournament a year in December) – Invitational
- The top 10 players of the point ranking of that year will play in a play-off type tournament.
- Day 1 : 10th place vs. 9th place, Day 2 : Winner vs. 8th place and so on.
- There will be 1 best of 7 matches a day So they're trying to give the 1st place player a free tournament win? If I understand this correctly, 10th place player will have to win 9 Best of 7's to win the Tournament (which is ridiculous) 9th place player will have to win 9 Best of 7's to win the tournament 8th place player will have to win 8 Best of 7's to win the Tournament 7th place player will have to win 7 Best of 7's to win the Tournament (... etc. etc...) 2nd place player will have to win 2 Best of 7's to win the Tournament 1st place player will have to win only 1 Best of 7 to win the Tournament and is guaranteed at least second place. Or am I not getting it? Yeah that's pretty bad they should do top 8 single elim Bo7 all the way.
This is an attempt to make the ladder important, basicaly by being near the top of the ladder to make money
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On December 16 2010 10:11 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 10:02 ch33psh33p wrote:On December 16 2010 09:57 Subversion wrote:
shame Code A tourney has such shitty prizemoney. Considering its bigger than everything outside of MLG / IEM, its still decent. Exactly what I thought, but you don't hear anyone complaining about the foreign tournaments.
kind of meant by comparison really. 50 mil for code S, 1.5 mil for Code A. That's a pretty enormous difference.
i mean, Code S gets the same just for showing up that Code A gets for winning the whole thing.
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On December 16 2010 10:55 Black Gun wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 10:29 Kazzabiss wrote:5) Blizzard Cup (1 tournament a year in December) – Invitational
- The top 10 players of the point ranking of that year will play in a play-off type tournament.
- Day 1 : 10th place vs. 9th place, Day 2 : Winner vs. 8th place and so on.
- There will be 1 best of 7 matches a day So they're trying to give the 1st place player a free tournament win? If I understand this correctly, 10th place player will have to win 9 Best of 7's to win the Tournament (which is ridiculous) 9th place player will have to win 9 Best of 7's to win the tournament 8th place player will have to win 8 Best of 7's to win the Tournament 7th place player will have to win 7 Best of 7's to win the Tournament (... etc. etc...) 2nd place player will have to win 2 Best of 7's to win the Tournament 1st place player will have to win only 1 Best of 7 to win the Tournament and is guaranteed at least second place. Or am I not getting it? vouch. exactly my thoughts. its quite obvious that they want to make the blizzard cup the "king of cups", but this format is just totally retarded. basically, only the top5 have any chance of winning this. oh, and what if there are ties in the points accumulated? if for example the 2nd and 3rd place are tied in points, they´d have to play a preliminary seeding match for the blizzard cup which greatly affects the chances of winning it. and id also like to know an answer to the question if the 4 foreigner spots in code A will be including or excluding foreigners who already qualified through the ordinary way. ie, does ret count as one of those 4 spots or not?
The Blizzard Cup is essentially a "Championship Title" like in F1 or EPL. They are rewarding the most consistent player of the season/year. Then again nothing is set in stone, they haven't even made an official statement yet.
As for the foreigner spots in Code A. It won't apply to the first Code A Tournament in 2011 as the player list has already been determined via the 3 GSL Opens and Tiebreakers. That's my take of it anyway.
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this is insane! im so pumped for these tournaments! I wonder when we will see the remaining sc1 people change over to enjoy some of this insanity
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It has been rumoured that in addition to prizes, Code S players get sort of a "salary" just for being Code S. Anyone knows if this is true?
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This is pretty exciting stuff. I'm amped for a ton of Starcraft 2! I agree though that the Blizzard Cup will have to have the rules modified. I don't mind the top players having an advantage, but when 10th ranked in the GSL has to win 9 bo 7's against the 9 top GSL players in order to win and the top rank player only has to win 1 bo 7 against a lower rank GSL player the format is TOO favorable towards the top seeds. I'm sure GOM will figure out a better format for it in the coming months.
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On December 16 2010 11:06 Subversion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 10:11 Zooper31 wrote:On December 16 2010 10:02 ch33psh33p wrote:On December 16 2010 09:57 Subversion wrote:
shame Code A tourney has such shitty prizemoney. Considering its bigger than everything outside of MLG / IEM, its still decent. Exactly what I thought, but you don't hear anyone complaining about the foreign tournaments. kind of meant by comparison really. 50 mil for code S, 1.5 mil for Code A. That's a pretty enormous difference. i mean, Code S gets the same just for showing up that Code A gets for winning the whole thing.
Isn't that kind of the point though, Code S players are supposed to be better than Code A hence why they have their position. Winning Code A should imply you deserve a place in Code S, not that you are better than half the players in it?
As soon as the promotion/relegation system between the groups is in place, those players who perform well in Code A will get a shot at knocking off the players in Code S who underperform. If you manage you'll be Code S and getting that "salary" instead of them, if you don't then the players who remain Code S deserve to be there. You can basically look at top 8 code A as offering you a chance for a further 1.5mil won.
Being a finalist in Code A also allows you to choose your group for those playoffs as an extra perk.
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On December 16 2010 11:08 McMonty wrote:
this is insane! im so pumped for these tournaments! I wonder when we will see the remaining sc1 people change over to enjoy some of this insanity
I hope not, I like having GSL every month plus OSL plus MSL plus proleague.
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On December 16 2010 11:13 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 11:08 McMonty wrote:
this is insane! im so pumped for these tournaments! I wonder when we will see the remaining sc1 people change over to enjoy some of this insanity I hope not, I like having GSL every month plus OSL plus MSL plus proleague.
yesterday was crazy, between LRing the group B GSL code A qualifiers, watching the crazy ace-stars match, and all the awesome games in kt-stars. was the best night of starcraft in a long time
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On December 16 2010 11:03 jamesr12 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 11:00 jalstar wrote:On December 16 2010 10:29 Kazzabiss wrote:5) Blizzard Cup (1 tournament a year in December) – Invitational
- The top 10 players of the point ranking of that year will play in a play-off type tournament.
- Day 1 : 10th place vs. 9th place, Day 2 : Winner vs. 8th place and so on.
- There will be 1 best of 7 matches a day So they're trying to give the 1st place player a free tournament win? If I understand this correctly, 10th place player will have to win 9 Best of 7's to win the Tournament (which is ridiculous) 9th place player will have to win 9 Best of 7's to win the tournament 8th place player will have to win 8 Best of 7's to win the Tournament 7th place player will have to win 7 Best of 7's to win the Tournament (... etc. etc...) 2nd place player will have to win 2 Best of 7's to win the Tournament 1st place player will have to win only 1 Best of 7 to win the Tournament and is guaranteed at least second place. Or am I not getting it? Yeah that's pretty bad they should do top 8 single elim Bo7 all the way. This is an attempt to make the ladder important, basicaly by being near the top of the ladder to make money
Are you referring to B.NET ladder? From the information in the OP, Blizzard Cup will be based off the points ladder of each GSL Tour (season/year). If you were referring to the GSL ladder, please ignore this post 
Point Ranking
- Every players start at 0 from the start of 2011.
- Points are given to players after each tournament depending on each players results
- Points are accumulated as the years go by, but for Blizzard Cup and World Championship only the points from that year are applied.
5) Blizzard Cup (1 tournament a year in December) – Invitational
- The top 10 players of the point ranking of that year will play in a play-off type tournament.
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On December 16 2010 11:06 Subversion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 10:11 Zooper31 wrote:On December 16 2010 10:02 ch33psh33p wrote:On December 16 2010 09:57 Subversion wrote:
shame Code A tourney has such shitty prizemoney. Considering its bigger than everything outside of MLG / IEM, its still decent. Exactly what I thought, but you don't hear anyone complaining about the foreign tournaments. kind of meant by comparison really. 50 mil for code S, 1.5 mil for Code A. That's a pretty enormous difference. i mean, Code S gets the same just for showing up that Code A gets for winning the whole thing.
Which is how it should be, otherwise there's not as much incentive of being Code S. Also realize that Code A players that "just show up" and fail will have to play again to keep their spot in Code S.
Over time, the cream will rise to the top and this will be an awesome tourney.
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i want a real proleague! 
oh well, the rest looks awesome so ill let it slide
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On December 16 2010 11:13 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 11:06 Subversion wrote:On December 16 2010 10:11 Zooper31 wrote:On December 16 2010 10:02 ch33psh33p wrote:On December 16 2010 09:57 Subversion wrote:
shame Code A tourney has such shitty prizemoney. Considering its bigger than everything outside of MLG / IEM, its still decent. Exactly what I thought, but you don't hear anyone complaining about the foreign tournaments. kind of meant by comparison really. 50 mil for code S, 1.5 mil for Code A. That's a pretty enormous difference. i mean, Code S gets the same just for showing up that Code A gets for winning the whole thing. Isn't that kind of the point though, Code S players are supposed to be better than Code A hence why they have their position. Winning Code A should imply you deserve a place in Code S, not that you are better than half the players in it? As soon as the promotion/relegation system between the groups is in place, those players who perform well in Code A will get a shot at knocking off the players in Code S who underperform. If you manage you'll be Code S and getting that "salary" instead of them, if you don't then the players who remain Code S deserve to be there. You can basically look at top 8 code A as offering you a chance for a further 1.5mil won. Being a finalist in Code A also allows you to choose your group for those playoffs as an extra perk.
Agreed, the reward for winning code A shouldn't be the prizemoney, it should be the fact that you can get into Code-S (being able to hand pick your opposition is a huge advantage)
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As a second job, being code-a isn't that bad, and Gom provides transportation costs according to Former GSL guys.
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Just realised the prize pool for Code S is less than the 2010 GSL seasons, with the champion getting half (~43300 usd) compared to this year (~86600 usd). It's understandable though since there are many other tournaments throughout the year.
Only the Super Tournament has a 2010 GSL-equivalent prize pool.
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Amazing stuff, Super Tournament will be a nice call back to the open seasons. (all this info really needs to be put into one thread somehow, a lot of different threads popping up but they all have important/new stuff on it)
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going to be pretty cool following the points total for the Blizzard cup
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yeah, pretty insane...really happy they're doing this
i hope they sell some sort of "$99 yearly ticket" because I'll buy premium at that price, but I'm not sure about paying 12*$20 (240) or 12*$15 (180)
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Meh. I wish the prize monies for the 'Super Tournament' and 'Code S Tournament' were more in line with the others.
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so the group play for code s is Bo1?
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On December 16 2010 11:34 netherDrake wrote:
Just realised the prize pool for Code S is less than the 2010 GSL seasons, with the champion getting half (~43300 usd) compared to this year (~86600 usd). It's understandable though since there are many other tournaments throughout the year.
Only the Super Tournament has a 2010 GSL-equivalent prize pool.
Only the super tourney has the equilvalent PLAYER pool, so therefore it makes perfect sense.
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Basically what I get from the Code A Qualification System is this:
1st Season
20 Players Qualified through GSL 2010 Rankings
12 Players Qualified through the Tiebreakers (done, this includes Ret)
2nd Season Onwards
16 Players Qualified from Previous Season
12 + 4 Players from Group B Preliminary Tournament
- 192 Tournament with 4 Foreigners seeded (into later rounds?)
- Koreans are selected based on Ladder Points
- Foreigners can join irrespective of Ladder Points (not counting the 4 seeded foreigners)
- Includes Bottom 16 of Group A from Previous Season (i assume they are also seeded into later rounds)
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Thanks for the update. I have updated it in my OP in the community news thread.
Does anyone have a screenshot of this?
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Dimaga used to say he wouldn't go to Korea, now i really want him to go and show all those p*ssies how to play MANLY zerg =)
Dimaga Hwaiting
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That's pretty insane prize money :o I always though there would be few this year but 10 + team tourney is a lot. Looking forward to it
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On December 16 2010 10:29 Kazzabiss wrote:Show nested quote +5) Blizzard Cup (1 tournament a year in December) – Invitational
- The top 10 players of the point ranking of that year will play in a play-off type tournament.
- Day 1 : 10th place vs. 9th place, Day 2 : Winner vs. 8th place and so on.
- There will be 1 best of 7 matches a day So they're trying to give the 1st place player a free tournament win? If I understand this correctly, 10th place player will have to win 9 Best of 7's to win the Tournament (which is ridiculous) 9th place player will have to win 9 Best of 7's to win the tournament 8th place player will have to win 8 Best of 7's to win the Tournament 7th place player will have to win 7 Best of 7's to win the Tournament (... etc. etc...) 2nd place player will have to win 2 Best of 7's to win the Tournament 1st place player will have to win only 1 Best of 7 to win the Tournament and is guaranteed at least second place. Or am I not getting it?
I think it's okay since it's rewarding the players based on their play over the entire year. If you consider that the 1st ranked player will have won multiple tournaments to get that spot, you can't say that he doesn't deserve it. All 10 players will have already made plenty of money so I don't think that will be too much of an issue. This final tournament will be for a bonus and bragging rights. I think it'll be cool to watch the lower ranked players try to climb to the top to prove that they're the true number one.
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Hmm Team League KOTH format.
Best of 5 in ro8/4 and Bo9 in Finals?
They probably are still discussing the details on some tourneys. Might as well make it Bo7 in semi's and the prize money structure for some tournaments is just aww while others are reasonable compared to the current GSL Open's.
Just realised that there are 7 GSL S leagues opposed to 5 that was said early when they said how GSL 2011 worked.
So it seems the reason the news was removed or hidden is because everything said in the OP is not finalized yet. So even the prize money and format for each tournament is probably in discussion.
Hope they'll sort it out.
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On December 16 2010 17:12 shannn wrote:
Thanks for the update. I have updated it in my OP in the community news thread.
Does anyone have a screenshot of this?
Sure, still had the site open...
+ Show Spoiler +
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On December 16 2010 18:51 havox_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 17:12 shannn wrote:
Thanks for the update. I have updated it in my OP in the community news thread.
Does anyone have a screenshot of this? Sure, still had the site open... + Show Spoiler +
thanks man :D
will update it into OP with a bit of update text that it may not be finalized yet.
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excellent reporting and find havox - will be sourcing you heavily this weekend
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Australia8532 Posts
Thanks for the OP! This is so insane - there is going to be so much starcraft 2 - omg my girlfriend is going to destroy me  !
As for the prize money.. wow - just wow; it is unbelievable.. i am so damn excited. I am a little bit on the fence about the "foreigner allowance".. foreigners are constantly arguing that the skill difference between Koreans and foreigners is not apparent, rather it is just a numbers game - but then again, a season/tourny without foreigners would greatly reduce the scope of the sc2 scene. hmmm i dont know.
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Jesus. Where is all this money coming from. And more importantly, where am I going to find the time to watch all these games!!!
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niceee... so much cash.. so many games.. hope it lasts
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On December 16 2010 17:40 Mainland wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 10:29 Kazzabiss wrote:5) Blizzard Cup (1 tournament a year in December) – Invitational
- The top 10 players of the point ranking of that year will play in a play-off type tournament.
- Day 1 : 10th place vs. 9th place, Day 2 : Winner vs. 8th place and so on.
- There will be 1 best of 7 matches a day So they're trying to give the 1st place player a free tournament win? If I understand this correctly, 10th place player will have to win 9 Best of 7's to win the Tournament (which is ridiculous) 9th place player will have to win 9 Best of 7's to win the tournament 8th place player will have to win 8 Best of 7's to win the Tournament 7th place player will have to win 7 Best of 7's to win the Tournament (... etc. etc...) 2nd place player will have to win 2 Best of 7's to win the Tournament 1st place player will have to win only 1 Best of 7 to win the Tournament and is guaranteed at least second place. Or am I not getting it? I think it's okay since it's rewarding the players based on their play over the entire year. If you consider that the 1st ranked player will have won multiple tournaments to get that spot, you can't say that he doesn't deserve it. All 10 players will have already made plenty of money so I don't think that will be too much of an issue. This final tournament will be for a bonus and bragging rights. I think it'll be cool to watch the lower ranked players try to climb to the top to prove that they're the true number one.
Not to mention the possibility of epic climbs by those from the bottom.
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On December 16 2010 11:06 Subversion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 10:11 Zooper31 wrote:On December 16 2010 10:02 ch33psh33p wrote:On December 16 2010 09:57 Subversion wrote:
shame Code A tourney has such shitty prizemoney. Considering its bigger than everything outside of MLG / IEM, its still decent. Exactly what I thought, but you don't hear anyone complaining about the foreign tournaments. kind of meant by comparison really. 50 mil for code S, 1.5 mil for Code A. That's a pretty enormous difference. i mean, Code S gets the same just for showing up that Code A gets for winning the whole thing.
Yeah of course, it has to be this way. Winning Code A is basicly getting 33rd place.
It can't be more profitable to play Code A where you have a decent shot at winning the thing than playing Code S with a minimal chance at winning. People could throw up and down placement matches in order to stay in Code A, when they don't see a chance at winning or advancing in Code S.
Edit: I really want to know how much all that will cost :/
Since they started with 50$ for GSL Season 1 (before the discount) and then even called the 20$ ticket a pre-season discount...
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Korea (South)84 Posts
This information was taken down on our website because there is some issues still to be confirmed. Also the confirmed version of this information will be announced at our finals this Saturday. We will post the new version of this information on our GOMtv.net website after the finals. Thank you for your support and sorry for the confusion.
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Removed the news that was posted accidently on the GOM site untill it has been officially posted on their site.
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Wow! Great! Just great! This ia a lot of money, tournaments and matches for 2011!
I just didn't like the "World" Championship system.
8 Koreans?! Where is Russia and Latin America? I know that these regions don't have too much players, but at least a invitation would be nice.
I don't know, but could be like this:
North America 3
Latin America 1
Russia 1
Asia 2
Korea 4
Europe 3
Taiwan 2
Excluding Korea, the more players that specific region has, the more will be invited.
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On December 16 2010 21:58 SeF wrote:
Wow! Great! Just great! This ia a lot of money, tournaments and matches for 2011!
I just didn't like the "World" Championship system.
8 Koreans?! Where is Russia and Latin America? I know that these regions don't have too much players, but at least a invitation would be nice.
I don't know, but could be like this:
North America 3
Latin America 1
Russia 1
Asia 2
Korea 4
Europe 3
Taiwan 2
Excluding Korea, the more players that specific region has, the more will be invited.
100% agree, but let's wait and see the offical word from GOm after the finals
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For that Blizzard cup at the end of the year, it strikes me that using a system more like, actually, the NFL playoffs would make more sense. Not sure the technical name, but the higher seeds (1 to 4) would get at least 1 "bye" round, then face off. Could split it up as well so there is 2 sides to the bracket.
General idea is to win it, you'd need to win at least 3-5 matches as a lower seed, but the top seed wouldn't need to win just once to take it.
It should be interesting, either way. But if they do the King of the Hill style, should be a bonus prize for a victory streak over 2, so the player that runs from, say, 9th place and wins up to facing 3rd place, gets something extra for that long streak of Bo7 victories.
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Why its called GLOBAL sc2 league is mind blowing just a marketing facade...should be korea sc2 league with foreigners. All the qualifiers are made inaccessible to players outside of korea and according to this release seems like ladder in SEA has no purpose as well, why bother laddering then and pointless regionlocking when only laddering in korea makes sense from competitive point of view.
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On December 16 2010 23:06 progrezzion wrote:
Why its called GLOBAL sc2 league is mind blowing just a marketing facade...should be korea sc2 league with foreigners. All the qualifiers are made inaccessible to players outside of korea and according to this release seems like ladder in SEA has no purpose as well, why bother laddering then and pointless regionlocking when only laddering in korea makes sense from competitive point of view.
While I agree with the SEA issue, contrary to popular belief SC2 is in fact..a computer game. This is hardly the world cup here mate, just be happy they are even trying to do this and the possibilities are still there for foreigners to make it which was harder in BW.
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Holy ...
Thanks for lining this out so nice. I am so loaded with SC2 fever, this is going to be awesome!
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On December 16 2010 21:58 SeF wrote:
Wow! Great! Just great! This ia a lot of money, tournaments and matches for 2011!
I just didn't like the "World" Championship system.
8 Koreans?! Where is Russia and Latin America? I know that these regions don't have too much players, but at least a invitation would be nice.
I don't know, but could be like this:
North America 3
Latin America 1
Russia 1
Asia 2
Korea 4
Europe 3
Taiwan 2
Excluding Korea, the more players that specific region has, the more will be invited.
IMO Taiwan/China should only have one, with the 2 other slots going to KR. Taiwan/China just doesn't have as many quality players besides Sen, Loner and a few others. In terms of notables, they've produced as much as Latin America and Russia.
China will probably produce more good players by then and match NA/EU so i'll probably be wrong though.
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That's a LOT of money. Can't wait to see how awesome the competition is next year! Glad they're at least trying to get foreign players involved as well.
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Just think of the Blizzard Cup like the Proleague postseason--The best performing team is seeded into the finals and the second best is seeded into the semi finals (although it obviously deviates from there). It's nice in that it gives the tournaments some memory beyond whether the people managed to climb/fall codes and in that it rewards the players who show better years without making it impossible for someone to have a really good run and win it.
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Liquid and EG better start flying guys over! I want to see some foreigners get in on the team league action.
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Sounds really good!
And I'm not afraid about them not making it. The names of the sponsors this year have been very big global companys. Intel sponsored the first season and Sony Ericsson sponsored season two and three. Not to mention smaller sponsors like pepsi. Sony Ericsson alone had sales in Q3 2010 worth almost 2 billion dollars.
The money is behind this tournament, when strong names stands behind it. 2011 is going to be a great year for Starcraft 2 if names like this will still be in the picture as sponsors.
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There are two things which need changes:
1. The Code A tournament needs higher prizes. Clearly winning a whole Class A tournament is not equal to just showing up to Ro32 Class S match (and for now the prize money are the same for those...). But more importantly there just should be more stimulants there for the newcomers. Especially in next months, with all those sc1 players switching to sc2, and sc2 getting major pro league! The money in Class A tournament are ridiculously low right now!
2. World cup is not really a world cup, too many Koreans, and why the heck so many Chinese and Taiwanese players? Because Korea is close to China?... That's funny, but very serious. In Europe and North America there are just so much more good sc2 players than in China/Taiwan, with two major events there IEM and MLG. So why 4 spots for China? Why 8 for Korea, if it's called 'World Cup'??? I would reduce 4 to 2, 8 to 6, gave 1 more spot to NA, 2 more spots to Europe and 1 more spot to SA.
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On December 17 2010 00:57 pms wrote:
There are two things which need changes:
1. The Code A tournament needs higher prizes. Clearly winning a whole Class A tournament is not equal to just showing up to Ro32 Class S match (and for now the prize money are the same for those...). But more importantly there just should be more stimulants there for the newcomers. Especially in next months, with all those sc1 players switching to sc2, and sc2 getting major pro league! The money in Class A tournament are ridiculously low right now!
2. World cup is not really a world cup, too many Koreans, and why the heck so many Chinese and Taiwanese players? Because Korea is close to China?... That's funny, but very serious. In Europe and North America there are just so much more good sc2 players than in China/Taiwan, with two major events there IEM and MLG. So why 4 spots for China? Why 8 for Korea, if it's called 'World Cup'??? I would reduce 4 to 2, 8 to 6, gave 1 more spot to NA, 2 more spots to Europe and 1 more spot to SA.
With a lot of koreans being able to make good money by being top 32 in korea....... the skillgap is most likely going to increase from kr->row :O?
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I guess this kind of ranking system kind of reminded me of tennis or other individually ranked sports, but say someone in CODE S for whatever reason couldn't make a GSL sponsorship league...they'd automatically drop to code A?! That seems a little crazy...
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The GSL's in 2011 got alot less prize money then those in 2010 and those were qualifiers for 2011 (50%).... THe gsl's in 2010 should have been those with less prize money imo.
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On December 17 2010 01:44 TaKemE wrote:
The GSL's in 2011 got alot less prize money then those in 2010 and those were qualifiers for 2011 (50%).... THe gsl's in 2010 should have been those with less prize money imo.
The Super is still the 87k US. Also, they have a huge number of tourneys in 2011 compared to 3 in 2010, the prize pool here is over 1 million compared maybe 250k in 2010. They used the bigger pots in the open seasons to ensure that people would be interested in the first place and would be able to get a decent group of people for Code S.
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Here's to hoping with increased budget comes increased production value, and less Comic Sans.
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On December 17 2010 01:48 PartyBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2010 01:44 TaKemE wrote:
The GSL's in 2011 got alot less prize money then those in 2010 and those were qualifiers for 2011 (50%).... THe gsl's in 2010 should have been those with less prize money imo. The Super is still the 87k US. Also, they have a huge number of tourneys in 2011 compared to 3 in 2010, the prize pool here is over 1 million compared maybe 250k in 2010. They used the bigger pots in the open seasons to ensure that people would be interested in the first place and would be able to get a decent group of people for Code S.
Its more like 530k (177k each) in 2010 and thats only for 3-4 months.
Dont get me wrong in 2011 there is alot of money and alot of awesome tournaments, I just think its stupid to have higher prize money for the 2010 qualifiers then the real 2011 tournaments.
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"Global" is the most misleading name ever and the world championship is a joke.
I get that compared to SC1, this is probably amazing for foreigners and what not.
But come on, this is really just a national competition with the occasional guest.
If this was in fact supposed to be a global competition(as it obvioulsy never was) koreans would stand on equal ground with every other country in the world.
Koreans get basically every advantage possible, foreigners that possibly could be amazing players will probably not even get to compete.
I know I'm negative, mostly because I know that if the biggest SC2-competition unfairly consists of 95% koreans my interest for the esport will wither up and die.
If they gained their 95% due to fair competition my interest would still fade away and die, but at least it would be fair.
I guess my global utopian SC2 dream never will happen. Unless FXOpen or someone else steps up to the plate. For now I guess I'll keep rooting for the handicapped foreigners and hope that they have huge success against all odds. That might change something. I don't see it happening due to the location and the stacked odds, but it would be nice.
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Closing this by request of GOM.
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Why was it closed, Nazgul?
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What deal with Satan did Gretech sign to get enough money to pump into their Starcraft tournaments? o.O
Don't get me wrong, I'm excited but jesus who's sponsering all of this.
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it was closed because GOM requested it and they wanted to announce it at the GSL finals first.
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Australia8532 Posts
On December 18 2010 20:47 debasers wrote:
Why was it closed, Nazgul?
Closed due to the quote in the OP..
So much starcraft and so much money
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Have they set a date on when the Code A and Code S tourneys start?
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On December 18 2010 21:38 Kiyo. wrote:
Have they set a date on when the Code A and Code S tourneys start?
In the commercials during the GSL finals I saw a 2nd of January date but I don't know what it means if it's the start of the GSL S and A league or something else.
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On December 17 2010 02:05 TheBanana wrote:
"Global" is the most misleading name ever and the world championship is a joke.
I get that compared to SC1, this is probably amazing for foreigners and what not.
But come on, this is really just a national competition with the occasional guest.
If this was in fact supposed to be a global competition(as it obvioulsy never was) koreans would stand on equal ground with every other country in the world.
Koreans get basically every advantage possible, foreigners that possibly could be amazing players will probably not even get to compete.
I know I'm negative, mostly because I know that if the biggest SC2-competition unfairly consists of 95% koreans my interest for the esport will wither up and die.
If they gained their 95% due to fair competition my interest would still fade away and die, but at least it would be fair.
I guess my global utopian SC2 dream never will happen. Unless FXOpen or someone else steps up to the plate. For now I guess I'll keep rooting for the handicapped foreigners and hope that they have huge success against all odds. That might change something. I don't see it happening due to the location and the stacked odds, but it would be nice.
explain reason for the raging?
the biggest and for many the only reason to not compete in gsl is that they have to move to korea for it. which is a HUGE commitment and something very few can do.
thats not GSLs fault. and what is that handicap you speak of?
really your rant makes like zero sense. what do you expect them to do? pay for evryones flight/stay? move their whole business away from korea?
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They have 32 players for Code A already and have notified me some time ago that they will look at the foreigner invites for the second Code A season of 2011.
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so idra and jinro just earned themself another 1000€ for doing nothing (and maybe more if they win)
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On December 18 2010 22:09 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
They have 32 players for Code A already and have notified me some time ago that they will look at the foreigner invites for the second Code A season of 2011.
This makes sense from all that's been posted. The 3 Open tournaments were to fill out the first GSL of 2011. The invite spots should be announced for the March tournament around February I'd imagine, and there won't be any big SC2 tournaments until April, is it?
Pretty sure that leaves a small contingent of available foreign invites, if they got by major tournament wins. Those Code A invites should be more interesting in the summer, especially after the bigger tournaments start happening again.
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Sorry if this was posted anywhere else, but I couldn't find a thread about it.
At the GSL 3 Finals Artosis and Tasteless said that the first GSL starts at 2nd January, but I couldn't find anything about it yet. No ticket information (will there be a special GSL 2011 ticket?), no confirmation if they streamed matches will start at 2nd January. Wonder if someone knows anything about it?
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thats surprisingly a lot more money than i exected. esports is starting to come around!
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Russian Federation481 Posts
When next GSL season starts? Couldn't find that info anywhere.
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Not sure if I should post in this thread, but they've updated the information about the "World Championship" here, in which Preliminaries seem to be taking place this week. There's also a list of the invited preliminary players from EU, NA, and SEA/non-KR Asia:
http://www.gomtv.net/view/worldChampionShip.gom
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Instead of having 2 from Chine and 2 from Taiwan, I think it would be more logical to have 2 from SEA, 3 from Europe/NA
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