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KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
December 16 2010 15:22 GMT
#81
Liquid and EG better start flying guys over! I want to see some foreigners get in on the team league action.
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Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
December 16 2010 15:27 GMT
#82
Sounds really good!

And I'm not afraid about them not making it. The names of the sponsors this year have been very big global companys. Intel sponsored the first season and Sony Ericsson sponsored season two and three. Not to mention smaller sponsors like pepsi. Sony Ericsson alone had sales in Q3 2010 worth almost 2 billion dollars.

The money is behind this tournament, when strong names stands behind it. 2011 is going to be a great year for Starcraft 2 if names like this will still be in the picture as sponsors.
I am not young enough to know everything.
pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
December 16 2010 15:57 GMT
#83
There are two things which need changes:

1. The Code A tournament needs higher prizes. Clearly winning a whole Class A tournament is not equal to just showing up to Ro32 Class S match (and for now the prize money are the same for those...). But more importantly there just should be more stimulants there for the newcomers. Especially in next months, with all those sc1 players switching to sc2, and sc2 getting major pro league! The money in Class A tournament are ridiculously low right now!

2. World cup is not really a world cup, too many Koreans, and why the heck so many Chinese and Taiwanese players? Because Korea is close to China?... That's funny, but very serious. In Europe and North America there are just so much more good sc2 players than in China/Taiwan, with two major events there IEM and MLG. So why 4 spots for China? Why 8 for Korea, if it's called 'World Cup'??? I would reduce 4 to 2, 8 to 6, gave 1 more spot to NA, 2 more spots to Europe and 1 more spot to SA.
dahornnn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom395 Posts
December 16 2010 16:24 GMT
#84
On December 17 2010 00:57 pms wrote:
There are two things which need changes:

1. The Code A tournament needs higher prizes. Clearly winning a whole Class A tournament is not equal to just showing up to Ro32 Class S match (and for now the prize money are the same for those...). But more importantly there just should be more stimulants there for the newcomers. Especially in next months, with all those sc1 players switching to sc2, and sc2 getting major pro league! The money in Class A tournament are ridiculously low right now!

2. World cup is not really a world cup, too many Koreans, and why the heck so many Chinese and Taiwanese players? Because Korea is close to China?... That's funny, but very serious. In Europe and North America there are just so much more good sc2 players than in China/Taiwan, with two major events there IEM and MLG. So why 4 spots for China? Why 8 for Korea, if it's called 'World Cup'??? I would reduce 4 to 2, 8 to 6, gave 1 more spot to NA, 2 more spots to Europe and 1 more spot to SA.

With a lot of koreans being able to make good money by being top 32 in korea....... the skillgap is most likely going to increase from kr->row :O?
Lamphead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada241 Posts
December 16 2010 16:31 GMT
#85
I guess this kind of ranking system kind of reminded me of tennis or other individually ranked sports, but say someone in CODE S for whatever reason couldn't make a GSL sponsorship league...they'd automatically drop to code A?! That seems a little crazy...
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TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 16:45:54
December 16 2010 16:44 GMT
#86
The GSL's in 2011 got alot less prize money then those in 2010 and those were qualifiers for 2011 (50%).... THe gsl's in 2010 should have been those with less prize money imo.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
December 16 2010 16:48 GMT
#87
On December 17 2010 01:44 TaKemE wrote:
The GSL's in 2011 got alot less prize money then those in 2010 and those were qualifiers for 2011 (50%).... THe gsl's in 2010 should have been those with less prize money imo.

The Super is still the 87k US. Also, they have a huge number of tourneys in 2011 compared to 3 in 2010, the prize pool here is over 1 million compared maybe 250k in 2010. They used the bigger pots in the open seasons to ensure that people would be interested in the first place and would be able to get a decent group of people for Code S.
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Arun
Profile Joined November 2010
United States56 Posts
December 16 2010 16:51 GMT
#88
Here's to hoping with increased budget comes increased production value, and less Comic Sans.
TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
December 16 2010 16:53 GMT
#89
On December 17 2010 01:48 PartyBiscuit wrote:
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On December 17 2010 01:44 TaKemE wrote:
The GSL's in 2011 got alot less prize money then those in 2010 and those were qualifiers for 2011 (50%).... THe gsl's in 2010 should have been those with less prize money imo.

The Super is still the 87k US. Also, they have a huge number of tourneys in 2011 compared to 3 in 2010, the prize pool here is over 1 million compared maybe 250k in 2010. They used the bigger pots in the open seasons to ensure that people would be interested in the first place and would be able to get a decent group of people for Code S.


Its more like 530k (177k each) in 2010 and thats only for 3-4 months.

Dont get me wrong in 2011 there is alot of money and alot of awesome tournaments, I just think its stupid to have higher prize money for the 2010 qualifiers then the real 2011 tournaments.
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
December 16 2010 17:05 GMT
#90
"Global" is the most misleading name ever and the world championship is a joke.

I get that compared to SC1, this is probably amazing for foreigners and what not.

But come on, this is really just a national competition with the occasional guest.
If this was in fact supposed to be a global competition(as it obvioulsy never was) koreans would stand on equal ground with every other country in the world.

Koreans get basically every advantage possible, foreigners that possibly could be amazing players will probably not even get to compete.

I know I'm negative, mostly because I know that if the biggest SC2-competition unfairly consists of 95% koreans my interest for the esport will wither up and die.

If they gained their 95% due to fair competition my interest would still fade away and die, but at least it would be fair.

I guess my global utopian SC2 dream never will happen. Unless FXOpen or someone else steps up to the plate. For now I guess I'll keep rooting for the handicapped foreigners and hope that they have huge success against all odds. That might change something. I don't see it happening due to the location and the stacked odds, but it would be nice.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
December 16 2010 17:25 GMT
#91
Closing this by request of GOM.
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
December 18 2010 11:38 GMT
#92
Re-opening.
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debasers
Profile Joined August 2010
737 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 11:47:33
December 18 2010 11:47 GMT
#93
Why was it closed, Nazgul?
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
December 18 2010 12:22 GMT
#94
What deal with Satan did Gretech sign to get enough money to pump into their Starcraft tournaments? o.O

Don't get me wrong, I'm excited but jesus who's sponsering all of this.
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shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 12:32:02
December 18 2010 12:31 GMT
#95
it was closed because GOM requested it and they wanted to announce it at the GSL finals first.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
December 18 2010 12:37 GMT
#96
On December 18 2010 20:47 debasers wrote:
Why was it closed, Nazgul?


Closed due to the quote in the OP..

So much starcraft and so much money
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Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
December 18 2010 12:38 GMT
#97
Have they set a date on when the Code A and Code S tourneys start?
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shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
December 18 2010 12:40 GMT
#98
On December 18 2010 21:38 Kiyo. wrote:
Have they set a date on when the Code A and Code S tourneys start?

In the commercials during the GSL finals I saw a 2nd of January date but I don't know what it means if it's the start of the GSL S and A league or something else.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
December 18 2010 12:50 GMT
#99
On December 17 2010 02:05 TheBanana wrote:
"Global" is the most misleading name ever and the world championship is a joke.

I get that compared to SC1, this is probably amazing for foreigners and what not.

But come on, this is really just a national competition with the occasional guest.
If this was in fact supposed to be a global competition(as it obvioulsy never was) koreans would stand on equal ground with every other country in the world.

Koreans get basically every advantage possible, foreigners that possibly could be amazing players will probably not even get to compete.

I know I'm negative, mostly because I know that if the biggest SC2-competition unfairly consists of 95% koreans my interest for the esport will wither up and die.

If they gained their 95% due to fair competition my interest would still fade away and die, but at least it would be fair.

I guess my global utopian SC2 dream never will happen. Unless FXOpen or someone else steps up to the plate. For now I guess I'll keep rooting for the handicapped foreigners and hope that they have huge success against all odds. That might change something. I don't see it happening due to the location and the stacked odds, but it would be nice.


explain reason for the raging?

the biggest and for many the only reason to not compete in gsl is that they have to move to korea for it. which is a HUGE commitment and something very few can do.

thats not GSLs fault. and what is that handicap you speak of?


really your rant makes like zero sense. what do you expect them to do? pay for evryones flight/stay? move their whole business away from korea?
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 13:36:30
December 18 2010 13:09 GMT
#100
They have 32 players for Code A already and have notified me some time ago that they will look at the foreigner invites for the second Code A season of 2011.
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