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Biggo
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia185 Posts
December 16 2010 01:22 GMT
#21
Have they made any further announcements about how the foreigner places will work?

For example, in code A with 4 foreigners being included does that mean that Ret would take up a foreigner place, or one of the existing places with another +4 foreigners included?
Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 01:30:54
December 16 2010 01:29 GMT
#22
5) Blizzard Cup (1 tournament a year in December) – Invitational
- The top 10 players of the point ranking of that year will play in a play-off type tournament.
- Day 1 : 10th place vs. 9th place, Day 2 : Winner vs. 8th place and so on.
- There will be 1 best of 7 matches a day

So they're trying to give the 1st place player a free tournament win? If I understand this correctly,

10th place player will have to win 9 Best of 7's to win the Tournament (which is ridiculous)
9th place player will have to win 9 Best of 7's to win the tournament
8th place player will have to win 8 Best of 7's to win the Tournament
7th place player will have to win 7 Best of 7's to win the Tournament
(... etc. etc...)
2nd place player will have to win 2 Best of 7's to win the Tournament
1st place player will have to win only 1 Best of 7 to win the Tournament and is guaranteed at least second place.

Or am I not getting it?
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 16 2010 01:41 GMT
#23
- 8 teams will be selected by the added points of their team members in Code S and Code A.


Is Liquid sure they don't want Idra?
Mongery
Profile Joined May 2009
892 Posts
December 16 2010 01:42 GMT
#24
this is sick! :O
http://www.twitch.tv/mongery_tv https://www.esportsearnings.com/players/27699-mongery-
krazymunky
Profile Joined June 2008
United States727 Posts
December 16 2010 01:43 GMT
#25
So if a code S player doesnt get past the Ro32...they get no money?
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 16 2010 01:45 GMT
#26
On December 16 2010 10:43 krazymunky wrote:
So if a code S player doesnt get past the Ro32...they get no money?


Ro32(16 players) : 1,500,000won each


... no.
krazymunky
Profile Joined June 2008
United States727 Posts
December 16 2010 01:46 GMT
#27
On December 16 2010 10:45 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2010 10:43 krazymunky wrote:
So if a code S player doesnt get past the Ro32...they get no money?


Show nested quote +
Ro32(16 players) : 1,500,000won each


... no.


oops i meant if a Code S player doesnt get past the group stage or reach the Ro32.
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havox_
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany442 Posts
December 16 2010 01:49 GMT
#28
It's 32 Code S players... So they all start in the group phase, which is Ro32 - and therefore get money.
krazymunky
Profile Joined June 2008
United States727 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 01:52:24
December 16 2010 01:50 GMT
#29
hmm maybe i was just confused by the "(16 Players)" part.

edit//lol nvm im just being stupid. the other 16 advance so they will get more $$$
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
December 16 2010 01:50 GMT
#30
On December 16 2010 10:41 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
- 8 teams will be selected by the added points of their team members in Code S and Code A.


Is Liquid sure they don't want Idra?


?

This was mentioned in Jinro's latest interview (pretty sure it was him) that they wouldn't have enough players to play anyways, so they may join with oGs- in which case they would have plenty of points anyhow.
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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 01:56:10
December 16 2010 01:55 GMT
#31
Yeah seems you'll get decent money for just being in the Code S tourny, but naturally if you do lose early you'll end up playing for your Code S place vs the top players in Code A and if you go down you'll make quite a bit less next time out (unless you win Code A etc).

Basically getting promoted from Code A seems like it'll offer a solid financial boost, since you can look at promotion up to Code S as essentially the same as winning the Code A tourny in terms of guaranteed payout.

It looks pretty awesome tbh, I hope they can afford it and that it captures a decent audience =D
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 01:57:17
December 16 2010 01:55 GMT
#32
On December 16 2010 10:29 Kazzabiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
5) Blizzard Cup (1 tournament a year in December) – Invitational
- The top 10 players of the point ranking of that year will play in a play-off type tournament.
- Day 1 : 10th place vs. 9th place, Day 2 : Winner vs. 8th place and so on.
- There will be 1 best of 7 matches a day

So they're trying to give the 1st place player a free tournament win? If I understand this correctly,

10th place player will have to win 9 Best of 7's to win the Tournament (which is ridiculous)
9th place player will have to win 9 Best of 7's to win the tournament
8th place player will have to win 8 Best of 7's to win the Tournament
7th place player will have to win 7 Best of 7's to win the Tournament
(... etc. etc...)
2nd place player will have to win 2 Best of 7's to win the Tournament
1st place player will have to win only 1 Best of 7 to win the Tournament and is guaranteed at least second place.

Or am I not getting it?



vouch. exactly my thoughts. its quite obvious that they want to make the blizzard cup the "king of cups", but this format is just totally retarded. basically, only the top5 have any chance of winning this. oh, and what if there are ties in the points accumulated? if for example the 2nd and 3rd place are tied in points, they´d have to play a preliminary seeding match for the blizzard cup which greatly affects the chances of winning it.

and id also like to know an answer to the question if the 4 foreigner spots in code A will be including or excluding foreigners who already qualified through the ordinary way. ie, does ret count as one of those 4 spots or not?

but in general the schedule looks very nice and interesting. great that blizz is pumping so much money into sc2 to get it started as an e-sport. what i dont like though is that they implicitly have accepted korea as the undisputed center of the sc2 esports scene for some time. this can be seen for example in the foreigner rule and by the fact that 8 koreans come to the world championships, while none of LA and SEA are invited.

btw if im not mistaken, the payout schedule means that code S players are guaranteed a monthly income of around 1.3k $ a month. thats not too bad.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
tok
Profile Joined April 2010
United States691 Posts
December 16 2010 01:57 GMT
#33
Play Starcraft
Get Money
??????
Profit

User was warned for this post
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 16 2010 02:00 GMT
#34
On December 16 2010 10:29 Kazzabiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
5) Blizzard Cup (1 tournament a year in December) – Invitational
- The top 10 players of the point ranking of that year will play in a play-off type tournament.
- Day 1 : 10th place vs. 9th place, Day 2 : Winner vs. 8th place and so on.
- There will be 1 best of 7 matches a day

So they're trying to give the 1st place player a free tournament win? If I understand this correctly,

10th place player will have to win 9 Best of 7's to win the Tournament (which is ridiculous)
9th place player will have to win 9 Best of 7's to win the tournament
8th place player will have to win 8 Best of 7's to win the Tournament
7th place player will have to win 7 Best of 7's to win the Tournament
(... etc. etc...)
2nd place player will have to win 2 Best of 7's to win the Tournament
1st place player will have to win only 1 Best of 7 to win the Tournament and is guaranteed at least second place.

Or am I not getting it?


Yeah that's pretty bad they should do top 8 single elim Bo7 all the way.
jamesr12
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1549 Posts
December 16 2010 02:03 GMT
#35
On December 16 2010 11:00 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2010 10:29 Kazzabiss wrote:
5) Blizzard Cup (1 tournament a year in December) – Invitational
- The top 10 players of the point ranking of that year will play in a play-off type tournament.
- Day 1 : 10th place vs. 9th place, Day 2 : Winner vs. 8th place and so on.
- There will be 1 best of 7 matches a day

So they're trying to give the 1st place player a free tournament win? If I understand this correctly,

10th place player will have to win 9 Best of 7's to win the Tournament (which is ridiculous)
9th place player will have to win 9 Best of 7's to win the tournament
8th place player will have to win 8 Best of 7's to win the Tournament
7th place player will have to win 7 Best of 7's to win the Tournament
(... etc. etc...)
2nd place player will have to win 2 Best of 7's to win the Tournament
1st place player will have to win only 1 Best of 7 to win the Tournament and is guaranteed at least second place.

Or am I not getting it?


Yeah that's pretty bad they should do top 8 single elim Bo7 all the way.


This is an attempt to make the ladder important, basicaly by being near the top of the ladder to make money
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306479
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 02:07:46
December 16 2010 02:06 GMT
#36
On December 16 2010 10:11 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2010 10:02 ch33psh33p wrote:
On December 16 2010 09:57 Subversion wrote:
shame Code A tourney has such shitty prizemoney.


Considering its bigger than everything outside of MLG / IEM, its still decent.


Exactly what I thought, but you don't hear anyone complaining about the foreign tournaments.


kind of meant by comparison really. 50 mil for code S, 1.5 mil for Code A. That's a pretty enormous difference.

i mean, Code S gets the same just for showing up that Code A gets for winning the whole thing.
estee
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (South)449 Posts
December 16 2010 02:08 GMT
#37
On December 16 2010 10:55 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2010 10:29 Kazzabiss wrote:
5) Blizzard Cup (1 tournament a year in December) – Invitational
- The top 10 players of the point ranking of that year will play in a play-off type tournament.
- Day 1 : 10th place vs. 9th place, Day 2 : Winner vs. 8th place and so on.
- There will be 1 best of 7 matches a day

So they're trying to give the 1st place player a free tournament win? If I understand this correctly,

10th place player will have to win 9 Best of 7's to win the Tournament (which is ridiculous)
9th place player will have to win 9 Best of 7's to win the tournament
8th place player will have to win 8 Best of 7's to win the Tournament
7th place player will have to win 7 Best of 7's to win the Tournament
(... etc. etc...)
2nd place player will have to win 2 Best of 7's to win the Tournament
1st place player will have to win only 1 Best of 7 to win the Tournament and is guaranteed at least second place.

Or am I not getting it?



vouch. exactly my thoughts. its quite obvious that they want to make the blizzard cup the "king of cups", but this format is just totally retarded. basically, only the top5 have any chance of winning this. oh, and what if there are ties in the points accumulated? if for example the 2nd and 3rd place are tied in points, they´d have to play a preliminary seeding match for the blizzard cup which greatly affects the chances of winning it.

and id also like to know an answer to the question if the 4 foreigner spots in code A will be including or excluding foreigners who already qualified through the ordinary way. ie, does ret count as one of those 4 spots or not?


The Blizzard Cup is essentially a "Championship Title" like in F1 or EPL. They are rewarding the most consistent player of the season/year. Then again nothing is set in stone, they haven't even made an official statement yet.

As for the foreigner spots in Code A. It won't apply to the first Code A Tournament in 2011 as the player list has already been determined via the 3 GSL Opens and Tiebreakers. That's my take of it anyway.
McMonty
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada379 Posts
December 16 2010 02:08 GMT
#38
this is insane! im so pumped for these tournaments! I wonder when we will see the remaining sc1 people change over to enjoy some of this insanity
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 16 2010 02:10 GMT
#39
It has been rumoured that in addition to prizes, Code S players get sort of a "salary" just for being Code S. Anyone knows if this is true?
Imperfect1987
Profile Joined August 2010
United States558 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 02:13:56
December 16 2010 02:13 GMT
#40
This is pretty exciting stuff. I'm amped for a ton of Starcraft 2! I agree though that the Blizzard Cup will have to have the rules modified. I don't mind the top players having an advantage, but when 10th ranked in the GSL has to win 9 bo 7's against the 9 top GSL players in order to win and the top rank player only has to win 1 bo 7 against a lower rank GSL player the format is TOO favorable towards the top seeds. I'm sure GOM will figure out a better format for it in the coming months.
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