On November 24 2010 17:27 MooMOo wrote: Lol Diamond, you realize I am the head admin of SCL? And to answer your question (last time im responding to you) For fun? Different scene get to play/talk with different people maybe compete agianst teamates for your actual team? That might be a lamesauce answer but then answer me this... Why do people play in leagues like SGL/SCL?
SCL does not impress me in the least. I didn't even know what SCL was until I just searched it, and I spend ALL DAY staying current in the SCII scene, it's one of the roles of my job. So you can throw that argument right out.
To answer your question: To represent their teams that pay their bills and they play with, train, and talk to on a daily basis. Basically your pulling players not only out of their comfort zones and more importantly out of their contract zones. Trust me, any team worth having their players join this has a clause in their contract that would prevent them from doing so. They represent EG, Root, Liquid, etc, not EG AND Joe Bob's Division Hydralisk Alamo.
With that I am out. If you believe this is a good idea, go for it. But your lack of success in with the SCL should have you looking and worrying about the SCL, it's at least got some potential. This idea however is as bad as an Avilo balance whine thread. You're making a lot of assumptions based on faulty logic and refuse to listen to when people that know the subject on a better level then you tell you otherwise.
I am pretty experinced in running leagues and dealing with players/managers. I ran a warcraft 3 league for several seasons, was a manager for a warcraft 3 team. Ran two different tournaments during SC2 Beta, am a Head admin for SCL, and also a manager for a SC2 team. I am not some silly novice.
Where does the money supply come from in the event that you somewhat succeed?
and which Non-Gentile is going to fund the event?
don't the players need to be payed?
why lock it to only existing players? sc1 teams add new people to their lineup every now and then while some players leave they're often far younger and more powerful potentially...people like jaedong at the time were really new and young and they started doing really well
Made an account just to post this but if you want to run a league involving something like that then you obviously couldn't include proffessional players on actual contracts. There are several legal implications involving that. If you just had a casual league with a certain requirement(1900 diamond + or w/e the number) then it has a higher success rate. You should have a season and then tournaments, within these tournaments new players are allowed to sign up for it but not allowed to participate in the season because they missed the "Draft" so to speak. So that way they can participate in the tournament, possibly get some attention from managers who are looking for more players for the next season so that way they have a better chance of drafting.
1: You had a lot of resources and staff to help kick it off 2: There was not so much leagues currently running in the Sc2 scene
These are just a few that I know of that currently running or about to start up in America.
Starcraft Gaming League (SGL) Collegiate StarLeague (CSL) Starcraft Clan League (SCL) <---- You are here Real Time Strategy League (RTSL) Electronic Sports League (ESL) LaG League (LaG) Axis League (AXL) Major League Gaming (MLG) Nightmare Gaming Project (NGP)
I'm sure that I might have missed a few though. On the plus side many of these leagues have yet to be properly established/are relatively new, so with some good marketing you might be able to muscle your way to the top. Good luck with that on a low budget though.
look at CSL, almost every competitive player that is attending university also plays for their school alongside their organization. this would be something similar, where the players would still be representing their own teams and their teams sponsors. its like at the all star game in any sport, even though the teams are mixed and mashed, you still inherently recognize each player from their normal team, and if that player does well, you still relate his success back to his team. for example when jarome iginla does amazing, i dont start saying 'wow the West Team is awesome theyre my favourite' instead i think the same about Calgary.
for this to be a contractual problem, there would have to be the possibility that a player might have to play against his first team, which frankly is non-existant. as a team owner/manager myself i will encourage all my players to join because it is good publicity for our team and for the players themselves. i dont see any reason why a manager would prevent his players from joining this league
think of this as an all-star league if you will. although it might not get all the best players in north america, it will function with the same concepts, and with players still being 100% loyal to their competitive teams.
It sounds like a good idea but before starting anything shouldn't you hear the words from the actual pro players and how they feel about it. Yes you could say that you do this and that, and predicting that this and that wouldn't happen. But we must hear from the actual people that are going to be playing in this "league" Diamond you can say that this will never happen your points are really good points, but if he does get an OKAY from most of the top teams and players. You can just watch it either crash and burn or rise and may become a big league in North america.
I don't see what advantage this has over the normal team leagues. You said that people would join your league over normal leagues "for fun" which doesn't really make sense since that is just as true for joining normal leagues over your league, and "to get to play/talk with different people maybe compete agianst teamates for your actual team" but you can compete against real teammates in individual tournaments already (ask incontrol about this sometime) and you can talk to the people you are playing against just the same if you are on your team or the other team? I mean I don't see why this couldn't work but I don't think it does anything better than the regular team leagues
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