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On November 21 2010 03:20 Mise wrote:
I think the rule of you needing to be Top 32 on ladder to (potenttially) get A-class is a bit stupid as most of those spots will probably belong to the current S- and A-class players making it ridiuclously hard to get there.
I'm hoping that it's Top 32 players outside of those already in an A or S class position.
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hope IdrA can get in at least. thx for this clarification
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I hope Moon gets far enough to qualify for it.
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They said the bottom 32 will have to go through qualifiers to keep code-A. Im hoping they have open qualifiers so our foreigners dont need to be top on the ladder to be able to challenge.
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I just realized Nada did not qualify. wtf. 
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On November 21 2010 03:44 Zaka wrote:I just realized Nada did not qualify. wtf.
What ? he has S code he made it, unless you mean GSL 3
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I think Promotion/Relegation is a much better name than Up and Down.
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IdrA's gotta be feeling pretty mad at the moment xD Hopefull he gets it now.
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yeah, maybe the code-A and top KR ladder players favorable seeding in the qualifiers, and it is open for the rest. That would be hard as hell to get through, but still decently fair for a really good foreigner to try.
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I'm concerned about the code A tourney. 32 qualifiers out of 64 is fantastic, however making RO64, RO32, and RO16 all BO1 just plain sucks. I'm afraid those will be full of cheese, and thus, be boring to watch. I can understand airtime restrictions, but if that's causing the issue I'd rather have only 16 seeded A class players, and then pull 16 from qualifiers...that way you can do BO3s.
I love the up and down tournament, winners from the bottom being able to choose their opponents is a nice touch. And the format for Code S looks great too.
I'm just concerned that the code a tourney is going to be too luck-based for the best foreigners to crack into the scene...they might rig brackets for popular BW vets that crossover, but foreigners?
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So I understand that Code S can (after these initial tournaments) only be aquired by Code A players who win against Code S players in this Up and Down Tournament. Obviously the Beaten Code S players become Code A. So how do you drop out of Code A and who takes their place? Is it through the Ladder and Worldchampionship? If so Code A and Code S players HAVE to be excluded? Still not 100 percent clear, but thanks for the info, been looking for that information for months 
btw this doesn't make sense:
+ Show Spoiler +Code S
1. Top 32 players from 2010 GSL will be placed into 8 groups of 4 each.
2. Each group will determine 1st ~ 4th places via "GSL Method" (probably full round robin?)
3. 1st and 2nd place of each group will move onto ro16.
4. 4th place finishers of each group will be placed into "Up and Down Match"
5. 16 players from 3 will be placed into 4 groups of 4 each.
6. Each group will determine top 2 players via "GOMTV League Method" (don't know how this differs from GSL Method"
7. 8 players will go through "cross tournament" (this just means they will put 1st places against 2nd places to fill out the bracket) to determine the winner.
8. Top 8 players will have seed for the next tournament (will be put into different groups for ro32 probably, and will have something similar to group determination OSL and MSL uses)
9. Each group stage will be Bo1, Ro8 is Bo3, Ro4 Bo5, and the Finals is Bo7.
Number 5: 16 players from 3 will be placed into 4 groups of 4 each. If it's 32 Code S players then 3rd Place from the 8 groups will be 8 players, not 16. I'm confused.
In addition Number 8: How can they be put into ro32 when ro16 is already completely filled with the top 16 Code-S players?
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On November 21 2010 02:47 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Nice that Check is already S officially (even though he was the most ahead with 2 Ro16s).
I know this has probably been discussed, but does this mean essentially no more foreigners can participate in GSL now? For new foreigners, they won't count for Code S/A tournaments...and there is pretty much no way they can make Top32 in KR Ladder to qualify to fight Code As correct?
Wha? Where did you get the idea that they will use the KR ladder as the qualifier? The top 200 ladder tournament mentioned in the OP is completly seperate from the GSL.
I assumed the qualifiers for code A would be the same as they were for GSL3. Although admittedly, they weren't specific about it.
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I updated the original post with few more info on 2011 schedule. If you have any questions, please post here and I'll see if I can find out about it.
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On November 20 2010 06:48 supersoft wrote:
Damn TLO you fool, what do you want back home? You could have reached s-Class pretty easy...
Getting his carpal tunnel syndrome treated.
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Group stage for Code S is Bo1? That's just stupid.
During a Bo1 anything can happen.....
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On November 21 2010 04:47 Mioraka wrote:
Group stage for Code S is Bo1? That's just stupid.
During a Bo1 anything can happen.....
I don't know, BoX round robins would take ages.
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On November 21 2010 04:38 TzTz wrote:So I understand that Code S can (after these initial tournaments) only be aquired by Code A players who win against Code S players in this Up and Down Tournament. Obviously the Beaten Code S players become Code A. So how do you drop out of Code A and who takes their place? Is it through the Ladder and Worldchampionship? If so Code A and Code S players HAVE to be excluded? Still not 100 percent clear, but thanks for the info, been looking for that information for months btw this doesn't make sense: + Show Spoiler +Code S
1. Top 32 players from 2010 GSL will be placed into 8 groups of 4 each.
2. Each group will determine 1st ~ 4th places via "GSL Method" (probably full round robin?)
3. 1st and 2nd place of each group will move onto ro16.
4. 4th place finishers of each group will be placed into "Up and Down Match"
5. 16 players from 3 will be placed into 4 groups of 4 each.
6. Each group will determine top 2 players via "GOMTV League Method" (don't know how this differs from GSL Method"
7. 8 players will go through "cross tournament" (this just means they will put 1st places against 2nd places to fill out the bracket) to determine the winner.
8. Top 8 players will have seed for the next tournament (will be put into different groups for ro32 probably, and will have something similar to group determination OSL and MSL uses)
9. Each group stage will be Bo1, Ro8 is Bo3, Ro4 Bo5, and the Finals is Bo7.
Number 5: 16 players from 3 will be placed into 4 groups of 4 each. If it's 32 Code S players then 3rd Place from the 8 groups will be 8 players, not 16. I'm confused. In addition Number 8: How can they be put into ro32 when ro16 is already completely filled with the top 16 Code-S players?
16 players from 3 means from step 3, i.e. the 1st and 2nd place players from each group.
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ro64-ro16 in Code A is bo1? The first round is the one which gets you potentially kicked out of code A altogether too. Pretty high stakes bo1 for the players involved.
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Bo1 for group stage is stupid thought.
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On November 21 2010 05:20 bRuTaL!! wrote:
Bo1 for group stage is stupid thought.
I presume they will do something similar to OSL and MSL, so either play everyone else in the group once to determine the ranking, or do the "one-day dual tournament." It's not Bo1 single elimination tournament, so it won't be so bad.
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