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Endorsed
Netherlands1221 Posts
On November 21 2010 05:07 yoshi_yoshi wrote: ro64-ro16 in Code A is bo1? The first round is the one which gets you potentially kicked out of code A altogether too. Pretty high stakes bo1 for the players involved. Damn, one could just cheese his way to top 16.. | ||
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RoboBob
United States798 Posts
On November 21 2010 04:38 TzTz wrote: So I understand that Code S can (after these initial tournaments) only be aquired by Code A players who win against Code S players in this Up and Down Tournament. Obviously the Beaten Code S players become Code A. So how do you drop out of Code A and who takes their place? Is it through the Ladder and Worldchampionship? If so Code A and Code S players HAVE to be excluded? Still not 100 percent clear, but thanks for the info, been looking for that information for months  Ok, first the ladder and world tournaments are seperate from the GSL. Guessing that ladder will be some kind of top 200, and world champ would be invite. It's the GSL we have solid info on. One GSL season has 3 tournaments: 1 Code S tournament, 1 Code A tournament, and one Up-or-down tournament (which is really more of a collection of showmatches that move people to & from S class. Path to S Class: Ok assume you're a brand new entrant into the GSL2011. Begin Code A tournament 1. You must obtain 1 of 32 spots in the Code A tournament via qualifiers open to anybody. 2. RO64: BO1. Win, and you advance, and you don't need to requalify for Code A next season. (yes, this means you can cheese your way to A class) Lose, and you'll need to re-qualify. 3. RO32: BO1. Winner advances. 4. RO16: BO1. Winner advances and gains a spot in the up-and-down match later that season. (Yes, this means that you can potentially cheese your way into getting a shot at S class) 5. RO8: BO3. Winner advances. 6. RO4: BO3. Winner advances. 7. Finals: BO3. Winner gets 1st pick in the Up-or-down tournament later that season. Loser gets 2nd pick. Begin Up-and-down tournament 1. If you won the Code A tournament, pick one of the 8 S-class players also in the Up-and-down tournament. Defeat your opponent in a BO5, you become Code S next season, and your opponent becomes Code A. Lose, and you're still guarenteed Code A next season, but your opponent stays Code S. 2. If you were the runner up in the Code A tournament, you get to choose any other Code S opponent to fight for title, just like #1 with same ramifications. 3 The other 6 Code A players are each randomly paired against a Code S player in the tournament. BO5s, everything else the same. End Up-and-down tornament. Then, the NEXT GSL, you get to participate in the Code S tourney. This means that sequentially, both the Code A and Code S tournaments must happen before the up-and-down tournament. Begin Code S tournament: 1. Group play/round robin?: 8 groups of 4, each match a BO1. Whoever places 4th in each group drops down to the up-and-down tourney later this season. 3rd in group doesn't advance, but is guarenteed Code S next season. 1st and 2nd in group advance to RO16. 2. Group play/round robin?: 4 groups of 4, each match a BO1. Top 2 in group advance, and will be seeded next season against possible newcomers. 3. RO 8 play: Each 2nd-in-group faces another groups 1st-in-group. BO3, winner advances. 4. RO4 play: BO5, winners advance. 5. Finals: BO7 End Code S tournament. | ||
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Sobba
Sweden576 Posts
For Clide and Hyperdub: It is close to impossible for them to not get S-class. Only scenario (if i counted this right) for them to miss S-class would be if 8 guys currently far down the ranking claimed all top 8 spots. AND... anypro Leenock jookToJung Polt and MC all have to get top 16. THEN Clide and Hyperdub will have to fight for the last S-class spot. So im sure we will see Cliiiiide get S-class. For Jinro/Haypro/Ret/Sen : Top 8 automaticly gets them S-class. But there is another possibility. They would have to reach top 16 and have to play some kind of tie-break with; Lotze, TOP, Loner and SangHo + any others that play their first GSL and reach top 16. But these are the requirements for this to be possible. Only 3 players in these lists below can reach the round above to their name: Require ro32: mvp Rain CoreJJang Require ro16: JSL Junw Aya Banbanssu Bless ButterflyEffect choya GuineaPig Require ro8: syj Vines Sen LittleBoy Sleep Golden Rache BoogieBoy DreamizEr Libero NewDawn BitByBit HayprO Tosyad Sc TheBest Naya Ret Cyrano Line gumiho Monster Max July aLive Joon Jinro Drug Liberty Choa Annyung Destination On To clarify. The lists are the round required for any 3 of those players to make it impossible for anyone to reach S-class with only a top 16 placement. Would suck if i missed something and this was all wrong | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
Also, holy fuck GOM blizzard is awesome. A tournament nearly every month! Amazing! | ||
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Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
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Grummler
Germany743 Posts
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rift
1819 Posts
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RushBoxer!
United States173 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On November 21 2010 06:11 RoboBob wrote: Ok, first the ladder and world tournaments are seperate from the GSL. Guessing that ladder will be some kind of top 200, and world champ would be invite. It's the GSL we have solid info on. One GSL season has 3 tournaments: 1 Code S tournament, 1 Code A tournament, and one Up-or-down tournament (which is really more of a collection of showmatches that move people to & from S class. Path to S Class: Ok assume you're a brand new entrant into the GSL2011. Begin Code A tournament 1. You must obtain 1 of 32 spots in the Code A tournament via qualifiers open to anybody. 2. RO64: BO1. Win, and you advance, and you don't need to requalify for Code A next season. (yes, this means you can cheese your way to A class) Lose, and you'll need to re-qualify. 3. RO32: BO1. Winner advances. 4. RO16: BO1. Winner advances and gains a spot in the up-and-down match later that season. (Yes, this means that you can potentially cheese your way into getting a shot at S class) 5. RO8: BO3. Winner advances. 6. RO4: BO3. Winner advances. 7. Finals: BO3. Winner gets 1st pick in the Up-or-down tournament later that season. Loser gets 2nd pick. Begin Up-and-down tournament 1. If you won the Code A tournament, pick one of the 8 S-class players also in the Up-and-down tournament. Defeat your opponent in a BO5, you become Code S next season, and your opponent becomes Code A. Lose, and you're still guarenteed Code A next season, but your opponent stays Code S. 2. If you were the runner up in the Code A tournament, you get to choose any other Code S opponent to fight for title, just like #1 with same ramifications. 3 The other 6 Code A players are each randomly paired against a Code S player in the tournament. BO5s, everything else the same. End Up-and-down tornament. Then, the NEXT GSL, you get to participate in the Code S tourney. This means that sequentially, both the Code A and Code S tournaments must happen before the up-and-down tournament. Begin Code S tournament: 1. Group play/round robin?: 8 groups of 4, each match a BO1. Whoever places 4th in each group drops down to the up-and-down tourney later this season. 3rd in group doesn't advance, but is guarenteed Code S next season. 1st and 2nd in group advance to RO16. 2. Group play/round robin?: 4 groups of 4, each match a BO1. Top 2 in group advance, and will be seeded next season against possible newcomers. 3. RO 8 play: Each 2nd-in-group faces another groups 1st-in-group. BO3, winner advances. 4. RO4 play: BO5, winners advance. 5. Finals: BO7 End Code S tournament. I mentioned this in the SOTG thread, but man ... Getting to S-Code after the the GSL Opens end and the real season begins is going to be hard as hell. Great players are going to have to go in serious slumps for a newcomer to have a chance. Team Liquid was really smart to send as many players as they could when they did. With TLO out of the running this is TL's best chance to get an S-code or high A-code. And if I were LegalMind, Clide, Hyperdub, Jooktojung, PoltPrime, Zandark I would be totally conspiring to take down Ret, Jinro and Haypro. This GSL Open is going to be insane. Can't wait! | ||
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Karmond
Australia31 Posts
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Escapist
Portugal548 Posts
Happy so see IdrA so close to obtain Code S and kinda sad to see TLO that close and giving it away. Hopefully he'll have another go in the future and we need more non-koreans taking their chances there...theres a lot of money and reputation at stake for 2011. | ||
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Hoju
United States449 Posts
IF the 7 players that are directly behind them in the standings get ro16 (Clide, Leenock, Hyperdub, anypro, Polt, MC, and jookToJung) AND 8 players below that first group get ro8 AND IdrA and/or TheWinD lose in ro64, then they would be in a tie for the last few spots in S-Class. But, two of that first group of 7 players, Clide and Leenock, play each other in the ro64, so both of them cannot get ro16, so that rare scenario can't even happen. So, IdrA and TheWinD have clinched S-Class. | ||
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iGX
Australia414 Posts
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antelope591
Canada820 Posts
On November 21 2010 05:33 sihyunie wrote: I presume they will do something similar to OSL and MSL, so either play everyone else in the group once to determine the ranking, or do the "one-day dual tournament." It's not Bo1 single elimination tournament, so it won't be so bad. That's what I'm thinking....they mentioned groups so its most likely like the OSL/MSL why wouldn't it be? Therefore it won't be just 1 game and ur out so its a moot point | ||
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Karmond
Australia31 Posts
On November 21 2010 09:43 Hoju wrote: I just realized something. The only reason IdrA and TheWinD haven't clinched S-Class yet is because of this rare scenario: IF the 7 players that are directly behind them in the standings get ro16 (Clide, Leenock, Hyperdub, anypro, Polt, MC, and jookToJung) AND 8 players below that first group get ro8 AND IdrA and/or TheWinD lose in ro64, then they would be in a tie for the last few spots in S-Class. But, two of that first group of 7 players, Clide and Leenock, play each other in the ro64, so both of them cannot get ro16, so that rare scenario can't even happen. So, IdrA and TheWinD have clinched S-Class. Even if Clide and Leenock could get Ro16 (Clide actually only needs Ro32), you're forgetting that there's 9 non-Ro8 S-code positions available as Hopetorture has gotten Ro8 twice. Oh and MC is too far behind, MC needs a Ro8 place to get S-code (in the senario you outlined). | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
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Wargizmo
1237 Posts
On November 21 2010 10:36 Karmond wrote: Even if Clide and Leenock could get Ro16 (Clide actually only needs Ro32), you're forgetting that there's 9 non-Ro8 S-code positions available as Hopetorture has gotten Ro8 twice. Oh and MC is too far behind, MC needs a Ro8 place to get S-code (in the senario you outlined). Yeah both of you are right, it's mathematically impossible for Idra and TheWind to not get S-Class status. | ||
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Marksel
Netherlands56 Posts
Thanks alot for the translation <3 | ||
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GrazerRinge
999 Posts
btw will there be competition like SPL in future? so far there were only ko tournaments and kinda weird 3day- team competition by gomTV. p.s.: pls correct me if i am wrong. | ||
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