EPTThanks for keeping the thread updated that was a very nice LR thread.
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Al Bundy
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Thanks for keeping the thread updated that was a very nice LR thread. MVP HWAITING ! | ||
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Logros
Netherlands9913 Posts
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fean0r
Germany117 Posts
On November 16 2010 19:13 EGalex wrote: Definitely a good point... but my counter-point would be that there's such a massive disparity between the size and scope of TL and the size and scope of EG's website at the moment that, while EG is still within the confines of a relatively small, team-specific website, TL shattered that a long time ago, and now wears the dual hat of team website and community coverage hub. Our website doesn't cover any competition or match, in any game that doesn't involve one of our players, whereas TL is currently the ESPN.com (Europeans/Canadians: forgive me for using an American sports analogy) of StarCraft. So I'd argue that since we're so much smaller, and we're in no way trying to be a coverage website or serving any other purpose than updating our team's fans on our own players, the standards are different. Still, fair point, and duly noted. i really like ur first post but this is a poor argument. professional regularities depend on size and scope is just nonsense. eg demand to be a prof clan same as tl do so the same professionality is require. | ||
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puppy pizza
United States18 Posts
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Slasher
United States1095 Posts
Although the Live Report threads can be created by any user, they are designated as -the- coverage post for each day, and therefore lie on the hands of the coverage/editorial team. So all responsibilities are the same whether they're official staff or not. As for some of the tags, here's a few to add to all the posts - fnaticSen, d.SeleCT, WE.Loner, WE.Luffy, vT.Torch, etc | ||
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DOOMy0
Denmark85 Posts
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estee
Korea (South)449 Posts
 SlayerS_'BoxeR' is expected to play last. | ||
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Kyuki
Sweden1867 Posts
On November 16 2010 19:27 Psiven wrote: I'm confused as to why consistent clan tags are important. You don't need to say EGIdrA over and over to know that IdrA is in EG; it's not somehow diminishing the team to talk about a player without referencing their team. For the most part, it's just whatever their handles happen to be or whatever they happen to be known by. I really agree with this. When it comes to a marketing standpoint, the strongest brand is something that is related to you without having to say your name. So for example, when someone says Jaedong the brain sees the Hwaseung tag (and a bunch of titles  ). If the ID itself gets connected with the team ALL the time, I feel that both the player and the team looses out in many situations. | ||
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Xeteh
United States589 Posts
GL to all the foreigners left to qualify. <3 | ||
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Ajunta
Germany522 Posts
This is a live thread! I want to read who plays, who wins, who loses and how people feel about it! I don't want to read about anything else in here, I don't care how important that topic is! | ||
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riboflavin
United States226 Posts
On November 16 2010 19:13 EGalex wrote: Definitely a good point... but my counter-point would be that there's such a massive disparity between the size and scope of TL and the size and scope of EG's website at the moment that, while EG is still within the confines of a relatively small, team-specific website, TL shattered that a long time ago, and now wears the dual hat of team website and community coverage hub. Our website doesn't cover any competition or match, in any game that doesn't involve one of our players, whereas TL is currently the ESPN.com (Europeans/Canadians: forgive me for using an American sports analogy) of StarCraft. So I'd argue that since we're so much smaller, and we're in no way trying to be a coverage website or serving any other purpose than updating our team's fans on our own players, the standards are different. Still, fair point, and duly noted. Your posts, while quasi-rationale and showing some evidence of reasoning, still fail to consider the basic facts. This gross oversight makes your point look like a pile of garbage - and subsequently causes me to dislike you and your team. 1. The forum posters spending their time following the GSL quals have no responsibility to adhere to your, or any, journalistic standards; they are members, not owners. 2. TL website disclaimer/rules have a pretty clear set of statements that cover this now-proven-to- be hypocritical complaint. 3. You posted a massive and highly subjective grievance in a GSL results/updates thread, (rather than making use of the website feedback section). Way to say 'thanks' to the people working to keep up updated. 4. You are using analogies to rationalize your point rather than factual supporting points. Gross. 5. Idra is on your team. You forfeit your right to fair and just treatment. 6. You hijacked a thread I liked and caused me to respond a second time. 7. Numbers are fun, but I have to stop at some point. 8. Really stopping now. User was warned for this post | ||
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WeeKeong
United States282 Posts
On November 16 2010 19:30 Corrupted wrote: nope, but we can certainly blame the garbage map pool. It's scrap against terran, not zerg. Sad that he didn't qualify, but he chose to mass collosi even though they could be sniped from 9 range vikings in space that can't be attacked by stalkers. | ||
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theherder2
United States538 Posts
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
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ottersareneat
United States55 Posts
On November 16 2010 19:20 Hot_Bid wrote: Ultimately, this was a small joke that I feel was blown out of proportion. I confess I'm an ESPORTS fan at heart. I felt it was funny for the 10-15 minutes it was live and brought a bit of personality to my cheering in this event, I never intended it to negatively reflect on TL's reputation or journalistic integrity. Maybe some saw it as a bad joke. However, I feel it's critical to TL's personality that it's staff (especially it's volunteer staff) keep it's quirks and personality. We have a site culture here and it's one where "administrators" can be an ordinary fan along with everyone else. That is what makes TL fun for me and I feel it'd greatly hurt everyone's experience here if we cannot make a 10 minute joke about someone beating one of our favorite players. I feel this is a "no harm no foul" situation and I don't believe there is a slippery slope argument leading to us censoring out Clide's clantag because he beat Ret in the GSL Finals or something. If you take a look at every single news post in the past six months, we've made it a point to include every single clan tag (look at the GSL coverage). Do we miss some? Sure. But every site misses clan tags sometimes -- TL and EG's sites both do. If there is an issue with not including enough clan tags, for example Dignitas for Select, then we can certainly fix that. I just don't see the issue here because a) motbob is not official TL staff at the time of this thread creation, and b) even Select himself doesn't use his Dignitas tag on all Bnet servers. If we miss mentioning a team it's certainly not any sort of intentional malice aimed at promoting Liquid over other teams, it's just an accidental oversight. Especially when most thread OPs are created by users who are understandably more familiar with Liquid players than any other team. If you feel EG (or any team) is being overlooked, feel free to shoot us a PM and we can fix that right away. Thanks for your feedback. Thanks for the reply. I agree, you guys are 100% accurate with clan tags for GSL competitions, but I think if you take a look back through your history of North American competitions (and I use the word "your" liberally here, as I'm not sure in retrospect if those posts were done by official TL folks, or just dedicated community members) such as MLG events, you'll see that a ton of clan tags are missing. Anyway, I'll shoot you a PM and continue the conversation there. Also, thanks to everyone who replied (favorably and unfavorably). This'll be my last post, but I wanted to make one point before I go. A lot of you guys are saying that my criticisms are invalid because so much of TL's coverage (this thread, for example) is community-based and generated by community members who aren't officially part of TL. This is not a valid counterpoint to my arguments - but it is, however, a very important observation about the nature of "coverage" and "news" on TL. We're now in an era of journalism and reporting in which a piece doesn't have to be "official" to be coverage. So, while some of you guys are essentially saying, "This isn't coverage - it's a forum thread and therefore you're wrong," I'd make the simple point: the two are not mutually exclusive anymore. It's both a forum thread and a coverage piece. I'd like to think that anyone in this community with enough dedication and passion to contribute to it via doing this kind of forum-based coverage would also apply that kind of dedication and passion to their approach to said community-based journalism. | ||
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
We don't need to have Alex's post quoted any more. If he's got an issue he can contact us directly or create a new thread about it. This isn't the thread to discuss it. | ||
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estee
Korea (South)449 Posts
On November 16 2010 19:34 theherder2 wrote: So out of C-1 choyafOu and OptimusPrime (FoxeR) are in, who are the otherS? I remember GoldenfOu from clan wars, who is he playing? Undecided. | ||
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MrKn4rz
Germany2153 Posts
On November 16 2010 19:19 Silidons wrote: Vegetarians have been known to have weaker immune systems. Its simply not true. Almost every Case where Vegetariens where found to have a weaker Immune system, were cases, where they simply suffered from malnutrition because of totaly different reason. Also, if u eat Meat ur risk of getting a heart Attack is much higher. Every truth has to sides and in the Media you hardly get to know the hole story. Going to bed now... Sorry again for Offtopic. | ||
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theherder2
United States538 Posts
On November 16 2010 19:33 WeeKeong wrote: It's scrap against terran, not zerg. Sad that he didn't qualify, but he chose to mass collosi even though they could be sniped from 9 range vikings in space that can't be attacked by stalkers. Actually from Artosis/Incontrol interview, they agreed that Scrap is favored to both Zerg and Terran, the way it is set up. | ||
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