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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
November 07 2010 19:39 GMT
#2581
Guys, do we really need to have this same tired debate about the merits of MLG's extended series in every MLG LR thread?
✌
Gridlock
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom517 Posts
November 07 2010 19:39 GMT
#2582
On November 08 2010 04:38 ArchitectSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 04:34 kojinshugi wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:33 Firereaver wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:31 kojinshugi wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:30 ArchitectSB wrote:
You know what I cannot understand. Colossus are essentially considered as air units in this game because of their towering height. Banshees cannot shoot air units because that is the way they are, but they are able to shoot the Collosi. Not complaining about imba or something like that, but that thought defies logic in my opinion.


O.M.G. Did you actually say Logic in the same post with that much irrational garbage.


Well there's nothing irrational about it, it's just uninformed. He doesn't realize that Colossi are both air and ground units.


Yeah, my post was not irrational garbage. I have played enough to realize they are both ground and air units, so I am not stupid in any sense. But that is what confuses me time and again. I feel sorry for them that they can be hit by everything and anything. If you are a zealot, you are pretty confident that Vikings cannot touch you from the air, but as a colossus you pretty much have to be worried about everything and as a Protoss user, you have that much to be worried about when investing in Colossi is all I am saying.


Collosi being air & ground is one of the things that makes SC the best. If they were floating air to ground balls and the legs were just for show then they'd just be uncloakable Protoss Banshees...
OFCORPSE
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden355 Posts
November 07 2010 19:39 GMT
#2583
The Tekken 6 stream is lagfree, but I cannot watch the SC2 one. Oh well I'll wait for replays.
Liquor saved me from sports.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
November 07 2010 19:39 GMT
#2584
On November 08 2010 04:34 zere wrote:

XLBet.com odds:


(P)Tyler 2.00 vs 1.75 (T)PainUser



Oughta bet $1000 on PU. No way Tyler can win being 0-2 behind.
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
dinki0825
Profile Joined June 2010
United States238 Posts
November 07 2010 19:40 GMT
#2585
On November 08 2010 04:38 Risen wrote:
I honestly feel like 1-2 high templars would be a lot better here due to feedback on medivacs.

socke used feedback a lot against jinro in the WB match but they weren't that great...
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
November 07 2010 19:40 GMT
#2586
On November 08 2010 04:38 ArchitectSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 04:34 kojinshugi wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:33 Firereaver wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:31 kojinshugi wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:30 ArchitectSB wrote:
You know what I cannot understand. Colossus are essentially considered as air units in this game because of their towering height. Banshees cannot shoot air units because that is the way they are, but they are able to shoot the Collosi. Not complaining about imba or something like that, but that thought defies logic in my opinion.


O.M.G. Did you actually say Logic in the same post with that much irrational garbage.


Well there's nothing irrational about it, it's just uninformed. He doesn't realize that Colossi are both air and ground units.


Yeah, my post was not irrational garbage. I have played enough to realize they are both ground and air units, so I am not stupid in any sense. But that is what confuses me time and again. I feel sorry for them that they can be hit by everything and anything. If you are a zealot, you are pretty confident that Vikings cannot touch you from the air, but as a colossus you pretty much have to be worried about everything and as a Protoss user, you have that much to be worried about when investing in Colossi is all I am saying.


Ok, now you're being irrational.
whatsgrackalackin420
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19228 Posts
November 07 2010 19:40 GMT
#2587
On November 08 2010 04:39 JWD wrote:
Guys, do we really need to have this same tired debate about the merits of MLG's extended series in every MLG LR thread?

Apparently so.

On November 08 2010 04:39 Viceconroy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 04:37 tofucake wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:36 Vaporized wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:34 tofucake wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:30 ArchitectSB wrote:
You know what I cannot understand. Colossus are essentially considered as air units in this game because of their towering height. Banshees cannot shoot air units because that is the way they are, but they are able to shoot the Collosi. Not complaining about imba or something like that, but that thought defies logic in my opinion.

They are on the ground, but can also be hit by air units. Like WTC.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm sorry

shoulda thought twice about that one..

It's been 9 years. of course it sucks it happened, but can't change anything now.

jokes

Dumb joke anyway.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Ryzu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States369 Posts
November 07 2010 19:40 GMT
#2588
On November 08 2010 04:38 unindel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 04:27 Ryzu wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:25 Zaka wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:24 The KY wrote:
I do think extended series is bullshit. No reason for it, both players earned their place.

I agree. Offer double elimination, but still punish the player if they manage to get back.


It should be punishment. It's the result of already having lost to that player. Without that punishment, there would be no benefit to having not lost, or to having already beaten a player.


Even if you didn't have the extended series rule there's already disadvantages to losing. You have to play quite a few more matches (2 matches in the losers for every 1 in the winner's). If you want to win the grand finals you have to win 2 bo3 whereas the winner's bracket person only has to win 1.

If you think those aren't enough of a disadvantage then make that your position. Don't pretend there isn't any benefit at all to winning.


Again, that's part of a double elimination tournament. At least here you get a chance to return. In a place like GSL, a single elimination tournament, Tyler would already be out, and would never have had a second chance. You can't have it both ways.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 07 2010 19:40 GMT
#2589
TT1 has this ezpz. Well played with the amount of zealots and immortals there
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
November 07 2010 19:40 GMT
#2590
Jinro's multitasking ability is GREAT. As shown in first game and now. I am happy that this series will probably go 2-1,because TT1 is doing very good There are no words to describe how cool watching pros play is.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Gudeldar
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1200 Posts
November 07 2010 19:41 GMT
#2591
Wow he completely forgot about a colossus and lost it.
Zaka
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands372 Posts
November 07 2010 19:41 GMT
#2592
Goddamnit, haven't played a single game of Starcraft this whole weekend.
Bite off more than you can chew....then chew it.
peticco
Profile Joined February 2010
Hungary220 Posts
November 07 2010 19:41 GMT
#2593
not going for drones? that drop did do anything
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
November 07 2010 19:41 GMT
#2594
Jinro is making a lot of murowders.
flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
November 07 2010 19:41 GMT
#2595
On November 08 2010 04:37 HyperLimen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 04:37 tofucake wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:36 Vaporized wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:34 tofucake wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:30 ArchitectSB wrote:
You know what I cannot understand. Colossus are essentially considered as air units in this game because of their towering height. Banshees cannot shoot air units because that is the way they are, but they are able to shoot the Collosi. Not complaining about imba or something like that, but that thought defies logic in my opinion.

They are on the ground, but can also be hit by air units. Like WTC.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm sorry

shoulda thought twice about that one..

It's been 9 years. of course it sucks it happened, but can't change anything now.


So I guess we should make jokes that aren't even funny about it ! Sweet !

I found it funny

Also, you shouldn't leave a space between the last word in your sentence and the exclamation point.
IdrA: " my fans are kinda retarded"
yejin
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
France493 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 19:46:39
November 07 2010 19:41 GMT
#2596
Mod edit: NO IMAGE MACROS jeebus

User was temp banned for this post.
nospeech
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 07 2010 19:41 GMT
#2597
On November 08 2010 04:39 JWD wrote:
Guys, do we really need to have this same tired debate about the merits of MLG's extended series in every MLG LR thread?


Most of the time the argument centers around the finals. I feel it is fair in the finals due to the winner never having lost. The problem here is that both players have lost a match.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19228 Posts
November 07 2010 19:41 GMT
#2598
On November 08 2010 04:40 Ryzu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 04:38 unindel wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:27 Ryzu wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:25 Zaka wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:24 The KY wrote:
I do think extended series is bullshit. No reason for it, both players earned their place.

I agree. Offer double elimination, but still punish the player if they manage to get back.


It should be punishment. It's the result of already having lost to that player. Without that punishment, there would be no benefit to having not lost, or to having already beaten a player.


Even if you didn't have the extended series rule there's already disadvantages to losing. You have to play quite a few more matches (2 matches in the losers for every 1 in the winner's). If you want to win the grand finals you have to win 2 bo3 whereas the winner's bracket person only has to win 1.

If you think those aren't enough of a disadvantage then make that your position. Don't pretend there isn't any benefit at all to winning.


Again, that's part of a double elimination tournament. At least here you get a chance to return. In a place like GSL, a single elimination tournament, Tyler would already be out, and would never have had a second chance. You can't have it both ways.

Yes you can, it's called double elimination without extended series. The format is used all the time.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 07 2010 19:41 GMT
#2599
rofl @ TT1 forgetting a colossus @ mid ... they missed that ~~ TT1 was upset in the pic :D
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
November 07 2010 19:41 GMT
#2600
I find these extended series abusive. It's ok in the Grand Finals cause the guy from Winner bracket has to have an advantage, but meeting again in LB someone you met in WB shouldn't give you an advantage or disadvantage. I mean, he lost one bo3, too ? Doesn't matter to who !

Then in your LB match you have to win FOUR matches or you can tank THREE losses ? Why ?
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