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x-Catalyst
Profile Joined August 2010
United States921 Posts
November 07 2010 19:34 GMT
#2541
On November 08 2010 04:33 Hotzenplotz wrote:
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J I N R O L L E D

GG! Well played sir.
Gudeldar
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1200 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 19:35:48
November 07 2010 19:34 GMT
#2542
On November 08 2010 04:31 Klive5ive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 04:28 whersmyspacebar wrote:
seriously if terran just goes ravens vikings and mass banshees they can rule the universe, btw banshees do more damage to collosus than vikings right?

Nope.
Banshees do 24 dmg, Vikings do 28.
And ofc Vikings have longer range, costs less gas and double build from the SP


The banshee has higher DPS vs Colossus than Vikings do (19.2 vs 14)
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3720 Posts
November 07 2010 19:34 GMT
#2543
On November 08 2010 04:32 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Go TL!
[image loading]



Awesome Liquid pic!
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
November 07 2010 19:34 GMT
#2544

XLBet.com odds:


(P)Tyler 2.00 vs 1.75 (T)PainUser

ModeratorWenn ich einmal traurig bin, dann trink' ich einen Korn. Wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann trink' ich noch 'nen Korn. Und wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann fang' ich an von vorn!
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
November 07 2010 19:34 GMT
#2545
On November 08 2010 04:33 Firereaver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 04:31 kojinshugi wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:30 ArchitectSB wrote:
You know what I cannot understand. Colossus are essentially considered as air units in this game because of their towering height. Banshees cannot shoot air units because that is the way they are, but they are able to shoot the Collosi. Not complaining about imba or something like that, but that thought defies logic in my opinion.


O.M.G. Did you actually say Logic in the same post with that much irrational garbage.


Well there's nothing irrational about it, it's just uninformed. He doesn't realize that Colossi are both air and ground units.
whatsgrackalackin420
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
November 07 2010 19:34 GMT
#2546
On November 08 2010 04:32 hugman wrote:
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On November 08 2010 04:24 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:22 dtz wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:21 Ryzu wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:20 Xeteh wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:19 Redmark wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:16 Ryzu wrote:
Why? Don't want an extended series, don't lose the first match.

How is this fair at all? You're already punished for losing: it's called loser's bracket. Why should you be behind against someone you lost to but not against someone else, who if he had played you before may have won even harder?


Because the other player hasn't lost yet? Its a double elimination tournament.


Don't use logic here, I don't think many people are capable of critical thinking in these threads.


Except that both Tyler and PainUser has lost once. Thus, they should be equal as players who are on their 2nd lives so to speak.

The only advantage should be had by the Winner of Winner Bracket because he has not lost before.


The obvious counter-logic to that is let's say Tyler win's 2-1 against Painuser w/ that setup. The tournament ends with Tyler advancing with a record against painuser of 2-3. That aint right.

There is no perfect solution. People will always complain about any tournament format. Deal with it.


Someone can 2-0 everyone in the WB and then lose in the finals to someone who went 2-1 through the whole WB, then that person will only have lost like 4 maps in the whole tournament and still come 2nd to a guy who maybe lost 10-12 maps. You could argue "that ain't right", but you'd be wrong.

Each game should be taken on its own. Both players are in the LB because they lost one BO3, who they played doesn't matter. Retarded rule


No. You get punished for losing. That's how a winners/losers bracket format works. You don't just go, "lol you lost? Oh well, EQUAL FOOTING!"

I'll emphasize my last point again: There is no perfect format that people wont complain about. The only reason people are making a big deal out of it this time is because it's Tyler (who everybody looooves) vs Painuser (who most people are indifferent to) and the past drama w/ them in this tournament.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19259 Posts
November 07 2010 19:34 GMT
#2547
On November 08 2010 04:30 ArchitectSB wrote:
You know what I cannot understand. Colossus are essentially considered as air units in this game because of their towering height. Banshees cannot shoot air units because that is the way they are, but they are able to shoot the Collosi. Not complaining about imba or something like that, but that thought defies logic in my opinion.

They are on the ground, but can also be hit by air units. Like WTC.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm sorry


User was temp banned for this post.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
SKtheAnathema
Profile Joined September 2010
United States885 Posts
November 07 2010 19:35 GMT
#2548
On November 08 2010 04:31 Ryzu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 04:30 Zaka wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:27 Ryzu wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:25 Zaka wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:24 The KY wrote:
I do think extended series is bullshit. No reason for it, both players earned their place.

I agree. Offer double elimination, but still punish the player if they manage to get back.


It should be punishment. It's the result of already having lost to that player. Without that punishment, there would be no benefit to having not lost, or to having already beaten a player.

The punishment is having to go through the losers bracket.


Why is that punishment? Without the extended series threat, there is no difference between the WB and the LB. The extended series are part of the reason the LB is dangerous.


no... it means that you're doubly rewarded for being lucky enough to get to play someone you beat already. person A beats B 2-0, loses to X later on 0-2 in WB... then later on gets to play B again in LB, has to lose an extra 4 games to get eliminated, thus gets 6 losses before being eliminated while everyone else in the whole tourney gets only 4.
Gridlock
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom517 Posts
November 07 2010 19:35 GMT
#2549
Sorry to have to ask, is this still a BO3? (Jinro vs TT1)
OFCORPSE
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden355 Posts
November 07 2010 19:35 GMT
#2550
Is the stream incredibly laggy for someone else? I can't even watch it at this point, lame
Liquor saved me from sports.
whersmyspacebar
Profile Joined November 2010
United States220 Posts
November 07 2010 19:35 GMT
#2551
too bad huk is out by those zergs I feel that him and socke are the only ones who can win against terrans.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19259 Posts
November 07 2010 19:35 GMT
#2552
On November 08 2010 04:35 OFCORPSE wrote:
Is the stream incredibly laggy for someone else? I can't even watch it at this point, lame

Mine's fine :O
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
November 07 2010 19:36 GMT
#2553
On November 08 2010 04:34 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 04:30 ArchitectSB wrote:
You know what I cannot understand. Colossus are essentially considered as air units in this game because of their towering height. Banshees cannot shoot air units because that is the way they are, but they are able to shoot the Collosi. Not complaining about imba or something like that, but that thought defies logic in my opinion.

They are on the ground, but can also be hit by air units. Like WTC.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm sorry


Trey Parker posts on TL.net?
whatsgrackalackin420
Yusername
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden252 Posts
November 07 2010 19:36 GMT
#2554
Please don't ban me for this, but is it true that TT1 used to hack in the past?
CraZyWayne
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany357 Posts
November 07 2010 19:36 GMT
#2555
On November 08 2010 04:32 Piy wrote:
Lol yeah

We'll probably find out Idra won the whole thing in a couple of days.


Haha, good one.

But too bad that TLO is out... =/
"tahts halo. dont worry"
skurj
Profile Joined September 2010
United States87 Posts
November 07 2010 19:36 GMT
#2556
Is anyone restreaming? Octoshape does not work for me.
I'd rather be zerg rushing
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19259 Posts
November 07 2010 19:36 GMT
#2557
On November 08 2010 04:36 kojinshugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 04:34 tofucake wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:30 ArchitectSB wrote:
You know what I cannot understand. Colossus are essentially considered as air units in this game because of their towering height. Banshees cannot shoot air units because that is the way they are, but they are able to shoot the Collosi. Not complaining about imba or something like that, but that thought defies logic in my opinion.

They are on the ground, but can also be hit by air units. Like WTC.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm sorry


Trey Parker posts on TL.net?

tp got nothin on me
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
DarthKhan
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada166 Posts
November 07 2010 19:36 GMT
#2558
I get lag in the stream with firefox. Chrome seems to be handling it well.
HOLY CHECK G.G.
Gridlock
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom517 Posts
November 07 2010 19:36 GMT
#2559
On November 08 2010 04:35 OFCORPSE wrote:
Is the stream incredibly laggy for someone else? I can't even watch it at this point, lame


Fine here mate. F5?
jamesr12
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1549 Posts
November 07 2010 19:36 GMT
#2560
On November 08 2010 04:35 Gridlock wrote:
Sorry to have to ask, is this still a BO3? (Jinro vs TT1)


yup
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