EPTGSL Ro4 Day 1 - Page 76
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On November 05 2010 00:49 ppshchik wrote: Isn't it ironic that the Koreans seem to be more innovative than foreigners in GSL? Especially when they were being stereotyped as macro robots? Three foreigners | ||
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Breadwinner
United States17 Posts
On November 05 2010 00:26 HeIios wrote: That has to be the silliest comment I've seen today. Winning is EVERYTHING. Why do you think these players abandon school, work and everything else to practice relentlessly? To give you a show that is fit for your liking? I'm sorry my dear Lord but that's not the way it works. How can you NOT be entertained by Foxers amazing control and excellent pushes? Damn right. I feel like anybody who complains about the style of a progamer should take a step back and consider how much these players have given up to become this good at the game. Anybody read this interview with Flash a little while ago? Interview This is the question that stuck with me the most. Q: Don’t you want to get a girlfriend? A: I don’t have the time to meet one. Back when I had one there was more time, but now I’m too busy. During the off-season I catch up with several friends, but I don’t think I can date anyone. The most important thing is that it’s not possible for me to retain my performance if I get a girlfriend. There will never be an opportunity like this for me ever again. This is the time to win. How many of us here are ready to give up that much? Get mad about bullshit like Savior; don't get mad about quick games. Respect the progamers who can find effective strategies and then dedicate themselves to practice until they can execute them flawlessly. That's what I'm here to see. Professional Starcraft isn't any no-rush 15 mins crap. This is serious. | ||
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ppshchik
United States862 Posts
On November 05 2010 00:49 netherDrake wrote: I don't think he's doing anything new honestly. He's just better at timings and overall skill. No doubt he'll be a beast for a long time (he's 17 right now). Unless Flash switches over. Ironically Foxer was born in 1993, same year as Flash. Also they had totally opposite styles, Foxer was an aggressive microer whilst Flash is a turtling macro player. | ||
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ppshchik
United States862 Posts
And other foreigners other than those 3 aren't skilled enough to qualify for GSL to show their innovation. | ||
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ZeNd0kUn
United States331 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On November 05 2010 00:51 ppshchik wrote: Ironically Foxer was born in 1993, same year as Flash. Also they had totally opposite styles, Foxer was an aggressive microer whilst Flash is a turtling macro player. flash used to all in rush. he just plays the most effective style, which by the way the game is designed, is defensive macro. nowadays he's not all that defensive. | ||
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awu25
United States2003 Posts
On November 05 2010 00:50 Kentor wrote: there needs to be an overall result. sick of pressing 50 spoilers yea i hate pressing through a billion spoiler tags in order to find out the result | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
On November 05 2010 00:57 oneofthem wrote: flash used to all in rush. he just plays the most effective style, which by the way the game is designed, is defensive macro. nowadays he's not all that defensive. Except for that year he 14CCed and died to everything. Though he did 3x14CC Jaedong this year for the mouse. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
e: obviously koreans, and idra & co, have played him on ladder and there really wasn't much buzz about him over there either | ||
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PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
On November 05 2010 00:52 ppshchik wrote: And other foreigners other than those 3 aren't skilled enough to qualify for GSL to show their innovation. I'm not pro one way or another, but this is pretty stupid. The GSL is in Korea...not as many foreginers have the opportunity to try out there. | ||
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
On November 05 2010 00:50 Kentor wrote: there needs to be an overall result. sick of pressing 50 spoilers Thanks for input will update now. | ||
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hitman133
United States1425 Posts
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Rammstorm
Germany1434 Posts
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
On November 05 2010 00:49 ppshchik wrote: Isn't it ironic that the Koreans seem to be more innovative than foreigners in GSL? Especially when they were being stereotyped as macro robots? only if you blindly trust the stereotypes. Koreans simply do what is neccessary to play best. They innovate just as much as the foreigners, but they tend to recognize and embrace the moments when you need so stop 'innovating' and make shit happen by doing your macro properly. Foreigners, compared to Koreans, always sucked at macroing so were forced to 'innovate' coz they couldn't rely on the macro. | ||
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Coldviolet
United States110 Posts
And though everyone says Foxer only does mass marines against any races, it's not going to be easy to come up with a strategy to counter against him. Cuz Foxer used mass marines as a 'counter' to a certain player. Foxer sniped both 1st and 2nd placed players of Season1. He knows what he is doing. And that makes it even harder for anyone to come up with vs Foxer strategy because Koreans know that mass marines isn't Foxer true strategy. On November 05 2010 01:10 PartyBiscuit wrote: I'm not pro one way or another, but this is pretty stupid. The GSL is in Korea...not as many foreginers have the opportunity to try out there. Not as many participants as Koreans, but we can say that the tops of each region are over there can't we? Dario is definitely one of the best Terrans non-Koreans used to have, and IdrA had like 75% win ratio back in US server but he is around 55%(which is normal) and ranked around #100 on KR. Now IdrA plays against SeleCT and HuK like a toy as you have seen back in MLG&EG league. Let's see what happens in Season3, because Huk and select will be there. If they get to Ro32 I would say they did very, very well. | ||
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wristuzi
United Kingdom1168 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On November 05 2010 01:40 Coldviolet wrote: Not as many participants as Koreans, but we can say that the tops of each region are over there can't we? Dario is definitely one of the best Terrans non-Koreans used to have, and IdrA had like 75% win ratio back in US server but he is around 55%(which is normal) and ranked around #100 on KR. Now IdrA plays against SeleCT and HuK like a toy as you have seen back in MLG&EG league. Let's see what happens in Season3, because Huk and select will be there. If they get to Ro32 I would say they did very, very well. Actually Idra has 62.29% win rate in Korea. Regardless, next year there might be more foreigners as some of the league formats will be pretty foreigner friendly. | ||
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
On November 05 2010 00:52 ppshchik wrote: And other foreigners other than those 3 aren't skilled enough to qualify for GSL to show their innovation. Only Idra is really in the top 3 for foreigners. | ||
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Zyphen
United States258 Posts
On November 05 2010 01:54 Eury wrote: Only Idra is really in the top 3 for foreigners. You're saying Loner isn't? The only one you can argue against is TLO. | ||
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