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OCsurfeR
United States195 Posts
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Mattes
Germany1116 Posts
Fuck yeah Teelar. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On November 04 2010 02:31 Talin wrote: On the other hand, Idra also played pretty much on razor's edge, deliberately taking the risks for the near-sure win if he manages to repel the first attack. Well, that's the beauty of SC2/BW. You cut corners to try and get away with as little as possible, so you can eventually take as big of an advantage as possible. | ||
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oZii
United States1198 Posts
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Vz0
Canada378 Posts
lol? HuK is a better player than Nony (from what we are able to see). that is a fact | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On November 04 2010 05:02 Vz0 wrote: lol? HuK is a better player than Nony (from what we are able to see). that is a fact It's isn't so black and white. HuK is a newer generation up-and-comping player, is obviously in a better shape, practices more than and wins more than Tyler. On the other hand, I still think Tyler is the better player in the sense that HuK has a lot to learn from him rather than the other way around. HuK hasn't quite yet reached the level that Tyler was at in BW, nor does he have the experience of playing professionally in Korea. Tyler is more like the old Jedi master of sorts, while HuK is the talented apprentice strong in the Force, to put it that way. =P | ||
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
Huk plays a ton and was good in beta, but as discussed in SoTG last night, his relative ability to compete is diminishing as smarter and more talented players with less time put in keep stepping it up and understanding the game better. HuK got creamed by Idra recently, and even gave up under the guise of mothership fan service because he knew he didn't have a chance against Select. Tyler has barely played, but his results relative to the time he's put in, and his insight on SoTG makes it clear how smart he is, how he words things, his points he makes that no one else does. Time will tell... | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
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Licmyobelisk
Philippines3682 Posts
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Dash27
United States51 Posts
In any case it was good to see a successful PvZ match up, although I dont know if I should try to emulate it since Idra seemed to play very greedy didnt he? | ||
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
By the way, thanks for the 3 gate/expo/5 warp-gate clinic Tyler! | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
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Ludwigvan
Germany2373 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On November 04 2010 05:20 Talin wrote: It's isn't so black and white. HuK is a newer generation up-and-comping player, is obviously in a better shape, practices more than and wins more than Tyler. On the other hand, I still think Tyler is the better player in the sense that HuK has a lot to learn from him rather than the other way around. HuK hasn't quite yet reached the level that Tyler was at in BW, nor does he have the experience of playing professionally in Korea. Tyler is more like the old Jedi master of sorts, while HuK is the talented apprentice strong in the Force, to put it that way. =P He wasn't even close to the level that Nony was at in BW. Nobody outside Korea was, not even IdrA. Tyler would be an even greater player if he had time to fully dedicate himself to SC2, which he does not so he is not at his full potential. Tyler has a crazy ability to macro, multitask, micro and come up with the best timing pushes around. He could easily be #1 player if he dedicated himself as much as HuK or any other full time pro. | ||
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QuakerOats
United States1024 Posts
On November 04 2010 06:23 GreEny K wrote: He wasn't even close to the level that Nony was at in BW. Nobody outside Korea was, not even IdrA. Tyler would be an even greater player if he had time to fully dedicate himself to SC2, which he does not so he is not at his full potential. Tyler has a crazy ability to macro, multitask, micro and come up with the best timing pushes around. He could easily be #1 player if he dedicated himself as much as HuK or any other full time pro. LOL I hate when people say this. It's meaningless conjecture. If Nony could be #1 "easily" if he was more dedicated, why doesn't he dedicate himself more? Being the best is not about "possibly being able to beat everyone else if you tried" but about putting up the best results, and NonY did not do that and I don't foresee him ever doing that in either sc1 or sc2. Don't get me wrong, Nony is an amazing player and has been one of my favorites since sc1 but it's impossible to say anything about how good he could be. | ||
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Lunit
United States183 Posts
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
On November 04 2010 05:02 Vz0 wrote: lol? HuK is a better player than Nony (from what we are able to see). that is a fact Hmm. I would disagree. Listen to the latest State of the Game for some pretty compelling arguments from players whose opinions you'd actually care about. There is no question that Tyler has the superior PvZ play. | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
On November 04 2010 06:32 QuakerOats wrote: LOL I hate when people say this. It's meaningless conjecture. If Nony could be #1 "easily" if he was more dedicated, why doesn't he dedicate himself more? Being the best is not about "possibly being able to beat everyone else if you tried" but about putting up the best results, and NonY did not do that and I don't foresee him ever doing that in either sc1 or sc2. Don't get me wrong, Nony is an amazing player and has been one of my favorites since sc1 but it's impossible to say anything about how good he could be. From my understanding, Nony has too many RL obligations to hunch over the computer 8 hours a day anymore. | ||
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lac29
United States1485 Posts
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neoenigma
United States243 Posts
On November 04 2010 07:02 lac29 wrote: Very disappointing series and it almost feels like Idra didn't try at all which makes the showmatch seem stupid and pointless =(. GO listen to teh SOTG podcast... and you'll understand what happened. Idra did try. Nony just used some semi abusive PvZ builds he collected. The difference between Huk vs Idra and Nony vs Idra is that Nony prepared for the matchup where as Huk went in against Idra like he was just another oppoonent. Nony used builds designed perfectly for beating players like Idra. So huk will probably get better tournament results overall... and Nony will beat more zergs  | ||
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